Yann Sommer

[Meysam]

While he is not tall, his fast reflexes cover that. Im really happy of signing him. a good deal. we can count on him for at least another 2 years

 

[Adriano@10]

I know, I know, why must it be me that asks this... Not as good as Handanović.. why?

If it's trophies, Sommer won more of them. If it's % in saves, I think Handa and Sommer are neck to neck there, right?

Prime handa > Prime Sommer no fucken question.....
Handa at 35 not so sure...
Handa under mancini was out of this world

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

Prime handa > Prime Sommer no fucken question.....
Handa at 35 not so sure...
Handa under mancini was out of this world

I’d say Handa was better until about 36/37 than present Sommer.

 

[wera]

I don't see how Sommer is worse or better than Handanović, overall.

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Yann Sommer's performance statistics for Inter Milan and national team. Yann Sommer is a Goalkeeper who have played in 32 matches and scored 0 Goals in the 2023/2024 season of Serie A in Italy. Other data include Goals per Match, Conceded Goals, Conceded per Match ...

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Similar career, similar numbers, Handa is bigger, Sommer has better reflexes, that's it.

 

[wera]

This guy is great at saving 1 on 1 shots in the first half. Holy fuck what a coupe

 

[CoolMan44]

Important save at 0-0 in those first 10 minutes. His reflexes are fairly good.

 

[Adriano@10]

I don't see how Sommer is worse or better than Handanović, overall.

Yann Sommer Stats - Clean Sheets & Saves Data | FootyStats

Yann Sommer's performance statistics for Inter Milan and national team. Yann Sommer is a Goalkeeper who have played in 32 matches and scored 0 Goals in the 2023/2024 season of Serie A in Italy. Other data include Goals per Match, Conceded Goals, Conceded per Match ...

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Samir Handanovič's performance statistics for Inter Milan and national team. Samir Handanovič is a Goalkeeper who have played in 14 matches and scored 0 Goals in the 2022/2023 season of Serie A in Italy. Other data include Goals per Match, Conceded Goals, Conceded per Match ...

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Similar career, similar numbers, Handa is bigger, Sommer has better reflexes, that's it.

At times the eye tells you what stats dont...
Like really there should be no question prime handa prime sommer it s not even close

go rewatch any game that we won 1:0 under mancini and you ll see handa pull off miracle after miracle....
Sommer was always a very good GK Handa in his prime was Worldclass and probably top 3...
Sommer never reached such a level...

Then again i think i m arguing with the guy who said we ll never reach CL again with handa in goal.....

 

[PHM1605]

A times the eye tells you what stats dont...
Like really there should be no question prime handa prime sommer it s not even close

go rewatch any game that we wone 1:0 under mancini and you ll see handa pull off miracle after miracle....
Sommer was always a very good GK Handa in his prime was Worldclass and probably top 3...
Sommer never reached such a level...

Then again i think i m arguing with the guy who said we ll never reach CL again with handa in goal.....

That argument is only valid had you watched Sommer weeks in weeks out too and saw him never performed similarly

Don't get me wrong, I love prime Handa but one-sided comparison "top3" is a bit Milanisti-esque... which I am quite allergic. Sommer in his peak was carrying both his club and his national team. While Handa was a sub for latter.

 

[Adriano@10]

That argument is only valid had you watched Sommer weeks in weeks out too and saw him never performed similarly

Don't get me wrong, I love prime Handa but one-sided comparison "top3" is a bit Milanisti-esque... which I am quite allergic. Sommer in his peak was carrying both his club and his national team. While Handa was a sub for latter.

Since i m swiss thats basically what i did...
I knew about the guy since he s 16
Like I ve seen him at Vaduz and GC....

Again people have forgotten how fucken good handa was with us in his early years. It should not even be a discussion...
Also there s a reason Sommer only joined a big team whe he was 34ish....

Yall can run around and claim he s as good as handa was but everyone who has watched em both will know better.

 

[PHM1605]

Since i m swiss thats basically what i did...
I knew about the guy since he s 16
Like I ve seen him at Vaduz and GC....

Again people have forgotten how fucken good handa was with us in his early years. It should not even be a discussion...
Also there s a reason Sommer only joined a big team whe he was 34ish....

Yall can run around and claim he s as good as handa was but everyone who has watched em both will know better.

Care to elaborate your top3 evaluation, which year was that?
Handa was a sub for Oblak; basically you are claiming he was the best among the rest. Considering Neuer and Courtois were always around. I never say Sommer was better but pretty closed and not as far as "top 3".

 

[brehme1989]

Care to elaborate your top3 evaluation, which year was that?
Handa was a sub for Oblak; basically you are claiming he was the best among the rest. Considering Neuer and Courtois were always around. I never say Sommer was better but pretty closed and not as far as "top 3".

Handanovic was never really benched by Oblak in the Slovenian NT

He retired in 2015 after clashing out with the federation because they fucked up the Euro qualification and he wanted to focus on Inter reaching the Champions League as he was 30 and hardly played there.

His decision was easier to make because having Oblak as the 2nd option was a great cushion. But he wasn't benched...

Oblak during Handanovic time as Slovenia NT member played in the following:
1) Norway away 2012 qualifier. Samir was out of the squad
2) Turkey away 2012 friendly. Again, Samir was out. Belec and his brother were the backups
3) Canada home 2013 friendly. Samir was on the bench, for the first time with Oblak starting
4) Colombia home 2014 friendly. Samir was not on the squad
5) Qatar away 2015 friendly. Not in squad.
6) San Marino away 2015, qualifier. Final game of the group. Benched for the 2nd time, again for a meaningless game.


Mind you Oblak was young but not that young and had appeared in the CL several times already for Benfica and Atletico by then.

Handanovic was the starter in both games vs Ukraine for the 2016 Euro.

So I dare you to find me any moment where Handanovic was actually benched by Oblak. When was Oblak preferred over Handanovic exactly in the NT?

 

[pupivn]

Care to elaborate your top3 evaluation, which year was that?
Handa was a sub for Oblak; basically you are claiming he was the best among the rest. Considering Neuer and Courtois were always around. I never say Sommer was better but pretty closed and not as far as "top 3".

Handa was starter, not Oblak, Oblack only got 1st when Handa was retired from national team.

 

[Adriano@10]

Care to elaborate your top3 evaluation, which year was that?
Handa was a sub for Oblak; basically you are claiming he was the best among the rest. Considering Neuer and Courtois were always around. I never say Sommer was better but pretty closed and not as far as "top 3".

As i said under mancini when we had those runs of 1:0 wins and 0:0 draws it was all handa.. I think that was the 14/15 and 15/16 season...
As in top 3 I admit it s debatable wether him or courtois or neuer actualy belongs in there and it depends on form...
But putting handa in the discussion back then imho was fair while again Sommer never belonged in any of these discussions.
Also note i m not saying Sommer is a bad keeper but imho sommer for most of his prime was a very good GK and thats it while handa was hands down world class.
And i thik brehme clarified that oblak NT situation.

I also think part of why handa is not rated where he should be is cause he spent his prime with us when we were not competing for shit and not playing CL.
The perception of Handa would be way different if he got to show his skills in CL early on...

 

[wera]

Handa in his prime is not in any way significantly better than Sommer in his prime. Why can't they both coexist as very good goalkeepers in their prime? While I don't see Handanović as world class, that doesn't mean I never thought he was a very good goalkeeper. Sommer is the same to me. A dependable goalkeeper that could've had a more trophy filled career if he went to the right club. Sommer's quality is dismissed for no apparent reason.

 

[PHM1605]

As i said under mancini when we had those runs of 1:0 wins and 0:0 draws it was all handa.. I think that was the 14/15 and 15/16 season...
As in top 3 I admit it s debatable wether him or courtois or neuer actualy belongs in there and it depends on form...
But putting handa in the discussion back then imho was fair while again Sommer never belonged in any of these discussions.
Also note i m not saying Sommer is a bad keeper but imho sommer for most of his prime was a very good GK and thats it while handa was hands down world class.
And i thik brehme clarified that oblak NT situation.

I also think part of why handa is not rated where he should be is cause he spent his prime with us when we were not competing for shit and not playing CL.
The perception of Handa would be way different if he got to show his skills in CL early on...

In those years there were also Navas and De Gea years ahead. Not sure how you could argue against that.
Handa was the best Serie A, no debate here. But looking outside not really use the "only shitty Inter" in all cases. As they had to face much harder opponents.

 

[Adriano@10]

Handa in his prime is not in any way significantly better than Sommer in his prime. Why can't they both coexist as very good goalkeepers in their prime? While I don't see Handanović as world class, that doesn't mean I never thought he was a very good goalkeeper. Sommer is the same to me. A dependable goalkeeper that could've had a more trophy filled career if he went to the right club. Sommer's quality is dismissed for no apparent reason.

Cause it s simply wrong.... You can have that opinion but than dont be surprised when people tell you you re wrong...
Nobody is dissmising sommers quality nobody is saying he is trash or not a very good goalkeeper...
Matter of fact i was one of the few ones on here saying he is a good onana replacement and just as good as onana....

You are the one dismissing how fucken good handa was in his prime thats it thats all but as i said in my first post it s on brand for you so it s all good...
Again go back watch handa under mancini and then go back and watch Sommer at BMG at Basel at GC at Bayern and at inter he never played on that level.

 

[Adriano@10]

In those years there were also Navas and De Gea years ahead. Not sure how you could argue against that.
Handa was the best Serie A, no debate here. But looking outside not really use the "only shitty Inter" in all cases. As they had to face much harder opponents.

ANd handa was playing on their level......thats my whole point as i said you make a top 3 it also comes down to personal preferences.
Go watch the actual games and tell me handa was worse than any of em...

Fucken EPL Hype infecting serie a fans...
Was alisson better than handa when they both were in serie A? Not really... somehow he moves to epl and is a obvius better keeper tha handa fucken joke

 

[PHM1605]

ANd handa was playing on their level......thats my whole point as i said you make a top 3 it also comes down to personal preferences.
Go watch the actual games and tell me handa was worse than any of em...

Fucken EPL Hype infecting serie a fans...
Was alisson better than handa when they both were in serie A? Not really... somehow he moves to epl and is a obvius better keeper tha handa fucken joke

Oblak and Navas were CL winner/runner-up beasts and the latter were TEN CL matches without concede Jesus Christ. Were you even watching CL matches back then? "On same level"?
You can't blame all on squad quality. Not much quality in Serie A at that time either. Tell any fans beside Inter's saying Handanovic was top3 15-16 they will laugh at you. It's like mom calls her kid handsome regardless of outside home.

 

[Adriano@10]

Oblak and Navas were CL winner/runner-up beasts and the latter were EIGHT CL matches without concede Jesus Christ. Were you even watching CL matches back then? "On same level"?
You can't blame all on squad quality. Not much quality in Serie A at that time either. Tell any fans beside Inter's saying Handanovic was top3 15-16 they will laugh at you. It's like mom calls her kid handsome regardless of outside home.

LOL thanks for confirming what i stated....... Handa is not recognized at their level cause he was with us and we were not playing CL...
Yes EPL fans will laugh at me for sure.. Anybody who watched Handa during that time wont laugh period.
Also how come i m not calling Somer WC would i not have to be more of a fan boy seeing as he s the same nationality as me and plays for my favourite club?

 

[PHM1605]

LOL thanks for confirming what i stated....... Handa is not recognized at their level cause he was with us and we were not playing CL...
Yes EPL fans will laugh at me for sure.. Anybody who watched Handa during that time wont laugh period.
Also how come i m not calling Somer WC would i not have to be more of a fan boy seeing as he s the same nationality as me and plays for my favourite club?

It's the synonym of saying "Icardi would burn the whole world if there were better supporters" or "top3 100m striker only being hindered by a shitty Inter" debate back then. If something isn't proven in reality it is always "ifs". "If Sensi isn't injured..." and such.

Blame the decline all you want but a fact that he has done nothing closed to top3 beside Serie A.