Who is MOST at fault for Inter's performance this season?

[phonk]

And how is everybody else performing? Things are not only relative to a previous year, but also relative to how others are performing this season.

Also, let's not forget 6, very intense CL games, with more EL ones to come too.

I personally don't see a problem analyzing Inter isolated from the other teams, but I will gladly give my opinion on this.

I assume with "everybody else" you mean the clubs that are in direct competition with us for the CL spots, that would be Roma, Milan, Lazio and maybe Atalanta.

Roma is definitely not as good as last season. Last season we were able to beat a better Roma side in their own stadium and we should have probably won the home game too. This season however things were a lot tougher against them despite them being inferior compared to 17/18. The 2-2 was a fair result imo. I conclude Roma is worse this season but so was our performance against them so I wouldn't say that we are better off now.

Lazio was also better in the previous year than they are now. Our home game we drew, could have also been a loss and obviously we scrapped an incredibly lucky win on the last match day, I can't really say this was deserved but I aint complaining . Now if we look at 18/19 we had our best game of the season against them and we got knocked out off the Coppa a couple months later (if you want you could count this as a draw after 90 mins). So in the two games of in each season we have a win and a draw. Keep Lazios dip in form in mind- I would also say in this case that there is no improvement, at least result wise and this is what matters in the end.

Milan before the winter mercato was pretty much as good as last seasons Milan, but they will surely accelerate now. Our stats were 1W-1D-1L (in the Coppa) in 17/18. Couldn't watch the Coppa game but the first derby was a deserved, yet close win. When we drew we also should have won had Icardi taken his chances. Also our close win this season was deserved. Not much has changed so I can't say we improved here.

Atalanta is a stronger now than previously, can't deny that. From going 1W and 1D to getting shitmixed 4-1 a year later. Yet again relative to last season we come short once more since Atalanta is overall still not better than us.


And the 6 CL games can't be an excuse in all honesty, especially for a team that wants to be in CL every year. Fitness shouldn't be such a great issue either because our squad has more depth now

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THE FANS AND THE MEDIA HAVE BEEN INTER'S PROBLEMS NOT ONLY THIS SEASON BUT SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS SHITHOLE.

nah

 

[n4l]

I personally don't see a problem analyzing Inter isolated from the other teams, but I will gladly give my opinion on this.

I assume with "everybody else" you mean the clubs that are in direct competition with us for the CL spots, that would be Roma, Milan, Lazio and maybe Atalanta.

Roma is definitely not as good as last season. Last season we were able to beat a better Roma side in their own stadium and we should have probably won the home game too. This season however things were a lot tougher against them despite them being inferior compared to 17/18. The 2-2 was a fair result imo. I conclude Roma is worse this season but so was our performance against them so I wouldn't say that we are better off now.

Lazio was also better in the previous year than they are now. Our home game we drew, could have also been a loss and obviously we scrapped an incredibly lucky win on the last match day, I can't really say this was deserved but I aint complaining . Now if we look at 18/19 we had our best game of the season against them and we got knocked out off the Coppa a couple months later (if you want you could count this as a draw after 90 mins). So in the two games of in each season we have a win and a draw. Keep Lazios dip in form in mind- I would also say in this case that there is no improvement, at least result wise and this is what matters in the end.

Milan before the winter mercato was pretty much as good as last seasons Milan, but they will surely accelerate now. Our stats were 1W-1D-1L (in the Coppa) in 17/18. Couldn't watch the Coppa game but the first derby was a deserved, yet close win. When we drew we also should have won had Icardi taken his chances. Also our close win this season was deserved. Not much has changed so I can't say we improved here.

Atalanta is a stronger now than previously, can't deny that. From going 1W and 1D to getting shitmixed 4-1 a year later. Yet again relative to last season we come short once more since Atalanta is overall still not better than us.


And the 6 CL games can't be an excuse in all honesty, especially for a team that wants to be in CL every year. Fitness shouldn't be such a great issue either because our squad has more depth now

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nah

What about Napoli's performances? And Juve's? Now keep in mind, I'm more talking about performances, not just solely results.

How can you say 6 CL games is meaningless? Especially 2 against Barca and Tottenham? Not just fitness wise, but mental?

Saying more depth, I can then say, more injuries.

 

[phonk]

What about Napoli's performances? And Juve's? Now keep in mind, I'm more talking about performances, not just solely results.

How can you say 6 CL games is meaningless? Especially 2 against Barca and Tottenham? Not just fitness wise, but mental?

Saying more depth, I can then say, more injuries.

The performances against Napoli and Juve were good, would be stupid to say anything different. I only listed the teams that we actually compete with for the CL spot. I like how we turn up against the better teams but I can't say our overall performances are better now when the reality is that in most of the other games we look like a team that is close to getting relegated.

Also I never said the CL games are meaningless, don't twist my words.

And for the injuries: it doesn't appear to me that our squad is crippled by injuries most of the guys that would be in the starting eleven are fit usually. Roma and Napoli have been in CL for years and they don't complain about fitness yet still manage to qualify for the next year.

 

[brehme1989]

I was gonna vote the thread starters but I can't seem to find that option.

 

[Lui]

It felt like he was gone after bologna, but due dilligence from the directors probably figured that a new coach couldn't do much better so why pay 2 coaches? I truly believe that Nainggolan is key to our fortunes and if hes playing his game we have a solid 3rd place squad. Even with Vecino.

 

[Universe]

What about Napoli's performances? And Juve's? Now keep in mind, I'm more talking about performances, not just solely results.

How can you say 6 CL games is meaningless? Especially 2 against Barca and Tottenham? Not just fitness wise, but mental?

Saying more depth, I can then say, more injuries.

Bro I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

I'm trying to analyse performances over results, as I always have. But why should our performances have anything to do with Napoli or juve's performances. When Napoli and juve have bad performances, they don't go 4 games without scoring from open play. They don't lose at home to 19th placed sides. You could argue that juve were in a 'dip in form' having been trashed and eliminated by Atalanta 3-0 then drawing at home to Parma 3-3 after wasting a 3-1 lead. But then they followed that up with a 3-0 away spanking of Sassuolo - a side we can't even score against let alone win.

The 6 CL games, and the matches surrounding them, were just another microcosm of our season and our problematic inconsistency. This inconsistency has been completely visible and predictable when you watch our performances. We went on a great streak and then abruptly went into a slump of 2W, 4D and 3L in the end of the year, getting eliminated from the CL in the process.

I remind you we had 6 points in 2 matches and then gathered 2 points from the remaining 4. Who cares if we weren't 'expected' to qualify. We were in a position to. It was in our hands and then we threw it away. Did you forget the disgraces in matchday 5 and 6 of the CL? I don't know how some people here are so lenient about that. That to me is a disgrace and a huge fucking issue. It's like submitting a resume to a highly competitive job you don't expect to get, then surprisingly getting invited to a job interview, and then pussying out and not fucking showing up. That's on you and you only. Tottenham got 8 points from those last 4 games btw. They're the guy who got rejected initially but got a last minute call and then dropped everything at a moments notice and ran there. They showed how much they wanted it, and took it.

Starting off 2K19, we beat a Serie B side and then we went right back to 5 matches of dogshit with 1 goal scored from open play and 3 consecutive losses (I am counting that Coppa match as a loss) and got eliminated from another competition in the process, once again, at home, to inferior opposition. That is also, completely unacceptable.

I feel like our last truly good performance was against Napoli, and even then we were a goal-line clearance away from losing.

Other teams inconsistency is not an excuse for us or for Spalletti to be performing this badly. No one expects us to win and draw all our games. But what the fuck is 2 points out of 12 against Sassuolo and Torino? What the fuck is 5 games with 1 goal from open play? We've scored 5 goals in our last 9 league matches. What the fuck is that?

 

[n4l]

Uni...you guys are just microanalyzing everything.

My point was, this is the season of "inconsistency"....ACROSS THE ENTIRE LEAGUE and quite frankly, across most of europe. That is my point. You guys make it seem like we're so much shit, yet we've collected enough points to still be 3rd. Think about that for a second. We are GROSSLY inconsistent (according to you), yet still have a 4pt cushion after 23 games (60% of the season). What does that say about how consistent Roma/Atalanta/Lazio/Milan are?

The guy that you guys want here so badly (and i love him) has collected 1 more point than us through 23 games in his league (Simeone) with significantly better team and more spending. Lost some games spectacularly. Madrid was shit now catching some form. Tottenham has had ups and downs. Bayern....up and down. Barcelona...drawing games. Manu....shit and now in a good patch. Chelsea..no need to say anything there. Arsenal...up and down. Juve....lol...juve has played absolute shit football this season and by the grace of ronaldo and refs, they're collecting points. I mean, really, only Liverpool & City have been somewhat consistent across euro top leagues. Even PSG has been up & down.

I'm not saying we're great. We may not even be much better than last season. I'm just not throwing some ridiculous tantrum around when the reality is, this is just how the season is playing across the board.

 

[Ethor]

Oops!

Currently Inter is third should we be closer to second? Maybe..whose to blame? Depending on the match I think you could blame anyone of poll candidates. Football is team sport so all are accountable!

 

[wera]

I was gonna vote the thread starters but I can't seem to find that option.

Just came here to say BRING BACK NYALL

 

[GenDire]

Guess we should have added Just Icardi to the poll

 

[ADRossi]

Teeing this thread up for once we draw Empoli

 

[capitano92]

Teeing this thread up for once we draw Empoli

This whole season is your fault

 

[vex]

Teeing this thread up for once we draw Empoli

We should already talk about this regardless of the result in the last match, and to answer the thread question whoever thought players we bought last summer were good enough to be considered improvement over the last season team. Only after that comes icardi and his refusal to play for full two months, and of course spalleti if he isn't among these incompetent fucks I consider most at fault, which I highly doubt.

 

[Ziyad]

Marotta,Spalletti , and the drama queens in the team

 

[brehme1989]

Initially, Spalletti. He fucked up the PSV game which opened a domino effect that spiralled to the entire club.

Marotta poured some oil into the fire by making the Icardi-Spalletti feud a significant locker room issue which could be avoided since Marotta wanted Spalletti out anyway. Teams always have these troubles and they solve them, or someone is sacrificed. Sometimes both. Then we have the Perisic saga who took advantage of this incompetence (hopefully it's incompetence).

And since a lot are falsely accusing me of conspiracy theories, here's an actual one that I think will be proven to hold water to an extent:
Marotta played this Icardi vs Spalletti feud exactly l where he wants it so that he can hire Conte freely, a casus belli name under any other circumstances. Everyone around Inter is involved with what a moron Icardi is (whose behaviour could have easily been calculated) and how Spalletti cannot motivate a group of unmotivated players (who know that most of them are expendable and will leave for lesser clubs). And all this makes it super easy to digest someone like Conte, who the fans would be furious to even have as consideration under any other circumstances. Conte who had made it clear in January when Spalletti was about to be sacked (team Ausilio and team Zanetti were backing this option) that he didn't want to be judged on a potential non-CL position if he took over immediately - something approved by Marotta it seems, if we are to accept that they had agreed terms back then - and from what we see from reports, it is still the case for next season, as he seems to want as little pressure as possible.

So the blame lies on Spalletti for fucking up our CL campaign.
On Icardi for being a baby.
On Perisic for being a cunt.
On the transfer market inactivity in the winter.
On the failure to get rid of the deadweight and the fact that two important new players in Vrsaljko and Nainggolan didn't really help that much.
And potentially on Marotta who wants a plaything on a huge pay to prove that he can build top teams from scratch, something that he's only done once in his life with the Gobbi with lots of question marks around it and lots of asterisks too.

So most of the blame goes to Suning/Zhang for being content with all this bullshit.

 

[firmino]

So far, Marotta has failed. He hasn't been able to at least somehow contain the downward spiral of the team.

Given that we are also paying all the distractions caused by locker room issues, while I am not saying he is the main responsible, I believe he's on par with spalletti and the team.

 

[Adriano@10]

For me it s quite clearly spallo and marotta..

I dont care what pero brozo and icardi did they all were unprofessional and it s hard to determine who did what and it s gonna end up in a he said she said thingy..

Fact is it s spallos job to keep the group under control and he clearly failed there is not even a discussion around that. On top of that marotta imho failed at containing the situation and putting an end to it. He s spallos boss fucken make sure he does not go to the media and sounds like a mad man, also sit these fuckers down in a room and try to clear the air.

 

[firmino]

Honestly, I don't recall brozo ever acting in a non-professional manner. I mean, except those occasional arms wide open but that was not Icardi related, it's just a behaviour he has to correct.

 

[forzainter257]

Wow why am I seeing this thread only now?
Alright:
Spallo - 50%
Icardi - 30%
Perisic - 10%
9g - 5%
Rest of the team - 5%

I think the management did what they had to do. They probably did their best to keep everything anonymous as possible, but when you have a captain whose wife has a big mouth it's quite difficult.

 

[Adriano@10]

I think the management did what they had to do. They probably did their best to keep everything anonymous as possible, but when you have a captain whose wife has a big mouth it's quite difficult.

According to reports the first time the team got to know of the decision was when the tweet got sent out if thats their best try at keeping shit anonymous then we re fucked.