Who is MOST at fault for Inter's performance this season?

[ADRossi]

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[Palacio]

Thanks for this much needed thread.
I wish there was an option that combines the coach with the management.

 

[snake]

The reason Spaletti is in charge still is because his target this season was at a stretch 2, and a minimum 3.

He is on track. How can Marotta fire a guy who is still clear in his target?

38 games a season. Let's not be upset over 10% of the season.

Every non-incinvible team will have a dip in every season.

Some dudes here want to be Roma because they have Zani. Well, where are they?

Some dudes here want to be Milan because of their transfers. Well, where are they?

 

[Wallace]

I wish there was an option that lets me choose Sassuolo, Parma, Benevento, etc...

 

[Puma]

Can I ask a question?

The players option. Does that mean the players in the sense that they have not given their all on the pitch and should be doing better? Or does it relate to the fact that the players in the squad are not up to standard and we need better players? Or is it a combination of both?

 

[surripere]

Kinda silly to have this poll halfway through the season.

 

[kurt0411]

Spalletti. No doubt. To people saying we are 3rd, that’s our objective are ridiculous. We are on paper the second best team in the league and I wasn’t expecting to challenge Juve for the title but at the very least keep somewhat close to them and fight with Napoli for 2nd. Instead we are 9pts behind them and 20 points behind Rube and are now in a champions league battle with about 5 teams. That’s just ridiculous and it’s on no one but the coach. Yes you can’t win the league with Politano, Vecino and Dumbo but with a Skriniar, Icardi, Radja, De Vrij, Handa, Brozo, Perisic etc we should have been in 2nd place and win the cup.

 

[Puma]

Yes you can’t win the league with Politano, Vecino and Dumbo but with a Skriniar, Icardi, Radja, De Vrij, Handa, Brozo, Perisic etc we should have been in 2nd place and win the cup.

Are you referring to the Copa Italia? That ship sailed long ago and I imagine the Europa League will shortly do likewise.

 

[ADRossi]

Can I ask a question?

The players option. Does that mean the players in the sense that they have not given their all on the pitch and should be doing better? Or does it relate to the fact that the players in the squad are not up to standard and we need better players? Or is it a combination of both?

I more so meant that they should be doing better. A lack of quality players I would probably attribute to management, but that's my personal opinion.

Kinda silly to have this poll halfway through the season.

I think this thread is a bit premature. With everyone complaining about Spalletti in almost every thread I visit, I was genuinely curious to check the pulse of the community.

 

[Universe]

In answering the question, who is most at fault, as opposed to solely or entirely, it's Spalletti, unquestionably.

Spalletti is the one who is meant to train and coach the team in terms of actual football on the pitch. Yet we see little improvement, if any, in our style of play. Inb4 some fucking cunt (probably brehme) starts talking shit about 'playing beautifully' or some trash, the team has looked largely clueless on the pitch and 'beautiful' or 'entertaining' football has nothing to do with it. On the contrary, unsustainable, non-developing and completely ineffective football is the problem. The players clearly lack any semblance of a structure or framework to follow on the pitch. That is, outside of 'spread the ball out wide and cross it to Icardi who is alone in the box'. That's on Spalletti. Marotta, Zhang and Ausilio don't coach the team. Icardi and Perisic do not coach the team. Spalletti does. Even a relegation side has less trouble creating clear cut chances than us. Even a relegation side plays with more cohesion and goal-oriented functionality than our team.

In crucial moments where his tactics have worked to a point, Spalletti is again the culprit for some unexpected and unnecessary defeats - defeats which (in the manner they happened) are sure to cause damage to the morale of the squad. I would argue we have paid the price for Spalletti's failure with tactical and in-game management more than we really should have. Whether we're talking about the now infamous Santon - Icardi sub vs juve last season, or the Valero - Politano sub also vs juve this season, or trying to "outwit" Mazzarri by cloning his 343, or going to Tottenham with zero intent of winning, or the Vrsaljko - Politano sub and instructing the team to waste time against PSV etc, there are several clear and damning incidents where Spalletti has directly ruined his teams chances. Far too many.

A lot of the players are turds and let's not forget some of them are direct and specific requests from Spalletti. No doubt the management is restricted by FFP and the SA but should've been more diligent in finding usable cheap options, even more Cedric's purely to provide some more options. But the one who takes all these pieces and puts them together is Spalletti. So far he hasn't managed to find a dependable or sustainable system on the pitch. He has also compromised the present and future of his own work with his frequent self-sabotaging moves. He is responsible for a lot of good too, but for me he is the standout guilty party for 'most' at fault for our current situation.

 

[yoszee]

Well done, i wish i could thank your post 100 times.

 

[Il Drago]

This is an interesting thread. Sadly for me there isn't a clear answer. If ADRossi had added an option of all of the above i would go for it. I blame the whole organization equally.

Spalletti. I agree with most of the things Universe mentions on Spalletti so i would like to add few more things. Lets be honest with ourselves. We're having a repeat of last season. A great start and around December hell breaks loose after choking in a match. Last season it was Udinese, this season it was PSV. The response from the team is a bit better this season but it doesn't change the fact we're experiencing a similar dip on form in the same period. The management also got Spalletti most of the players he requested so he can't really blame the management for the players he has at his disposal. We also have some qualility underperforming players (e.g. Perisic, Nainggolan). It's up to the coach to motivate the players and get the best out of them so he is to blame if they're not performing.



Management. I was never a fan of Ausilio and i wouldn't mind him being gone in the summer but i think he did a good job last summer. On contrary with many forum members i think we have a better squad this season. We can argue that we never really replaced Rafinha and Cancelo (unless Nainggolan returns to his Roma standards) but the squad is much stronger in other areas. De Vrij is better than nobody we had last season. Likewise, Politano and Keita are better than Karamoh while Lautaro has already scored more goals than Eder. Nainggolan and Vrsaljko haven't worked so far but i can't really blame Ausilio for them. The one was a coach request and the other was a gamble worth taking. It's not like we had a better option. Man Utd were asking for 20m over Damian and Chelsea were asking for 25m over Zappacosta so our deal for Vrsaljko was a good one. It didn't work but it happens. I blame the management though for not getting another midfielder. That was a colossal mistake. It was so blatantly obvious we needed another midfielder that it's so infuriating we didn't even try to sign one. We counted our whole season on Nainggolan performing and this plan backfired when this didn't happen. We're lucky Joao Mario could help the team in some matches else the things would be even worse.

Players. In this category there are three names for me. Perisic, Nainggolan, Icardi. In this order. Perisic is more focused on a move elsewhere than at Inter. He had been very poor in the first round and yet the coach supported him. But instead of rewarding the coach for his trust he handed a transfer request ten days before the end of the winter transfer market. Nainggolan was more focused on partying and gambling instead of regaining his full fitness back. Hopefully the game against Parma will be the turning point for him. Likewise, Icardi has let the contract issue affect him. His last goal from open play was in October and his last goal in Serie A was almost two months ago. As our captain and our best player, he needs to step up.

 

[Sassuolu]

We are actually doing better than last season with a side that hasn't even vastly improved, in actual fact our starting 11 was weakened considering that we lost Cancelo and Rafinha.

Vrsaljko is out of action while Radja who had a good impact when he played early on in the season helps us a lot but then spent 2 months in limbo. What we have this season is more attacking options but the midfield stayed the same and before knocking Valero I really think he helps the side keep the ball on the ground and plays it around better than most and we've missed him a little lately.

Anyway with Radja recovering and Politano and Keita on their way back I think we could end the season well and reach our targets, don't get why people are disappointed with this season we are well within our targets, unless you consider a worthless Coppa Italia to be worth winning.

 

[Bergpavian]

That's a hard question ... Looking at Nainggolan as our most important transfer this season: Spalletti wanted him although he knew about his habits. Our managament got that 30yo idiot altough they knew about his habits. And in the end: Who could knew that the Nainggolan will turn out SO bad?

I want to vote for all three.

 

[Devious]

Inb4 some fucking cunt (probably brehme) starts talking shit about 'playing beautifully' or some trash

I laughed hysterically. Fucken Uni.

 

[n4l]

This thread is sad.

 

[ArmaLetale]

In comparing to last season, this time, we're having relatively better performances. At this rate, this season is OK. Not that awesome and neither abysmal. Most importantly, we're still on track. It can be evaluated, however, by the end of the season.

 

[phonk]

In comparing to last season, this time, we're having relatively better performances. At this rate, this season is OK. Not that awesome and neither abysmal. Most importantly, we're still on track. It can be evaluated, however, by the end of the season.

Not necessarily true.

In terms of results we have 2 points less after 23 games than last season and we already played Fiorentina and Roma back then.

And if we compare just how we played in the previous season compared to now I see very little difference. Getting owned by the likes of Sass, Torino and especially Bologna is never considered "better" no matter how bad we played last season. We did have some nice games, I am not gonna deny that but considering this is already the 2nd season with Spalletti (+ 7 new players) our performances should by measured on a higher standard.

Imo we are performing actually worse compared to the 2017/18 campaign.

 

[n4l]

Not necessarily true.

In terms of results we have 2 points less after 23 games than last season and we already played Fiorentina and Roma back then.

And if we compare just how we played in the previous season compared to now I see very little difference. Getting owned by the likes of Sass, Torino and especially Bologna is never considered "better" no matter how bad we played last season. We did have some nice games, I am not gonna deny that but considering this is already the 2nd season with Spalletti (+ 7 new players) our performances should by measured on a higher standard.

Imo we are performing actually worse compared to the 2017/18 campaign.

And how is everybody else performing? Things are not only relative to a previous year, but also relative to how others are performing this season.

Also, let's not forget 6, very intense CL games, with more EL ones to come too.

 

[100%]

THE FANS AND THE MEDIA HAVE BEEN INTER'S PROBLEMS NOT ONLY THIS SEASON BUT SINCE WE'VE BEEN IN THIS SHITHOLE.