Valentín Carboni

thatdude

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Feb 18, 2010
Messages
19,735
Likes
10,004
10 years of FIF
FIF Special Ones
The kid is talented apperently. But we probably ain’t gonna use him anytime soon either. As we prefer to give minutes to guys like Klaassen and Sensi. Better sell him whe he still has some good value.
Hopefully we can keep a buy back option if we do sell. A couple years in La Liga could do wonders for him. You never know when a player might explode.
 

CafeCordoba

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 7, 2004
Messages
35,451
Likes
14,825
Favorite Player
Toro, Barella
10 years of FIF
La Liga or Serie B, to a club which desperately needs talent and skill up front.

There was a rumor that both Carboni's, Valentin and Franco, could leave Monza on January. Franco hasn't got much playing time either. Monza ended up being too "big" club for these kids since the club are fighting for top10 position. Palladino's career is on the rise and he's looking for results and nothing else.
 

forzainter257

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Mar 22, 2018
Messages
5,303
Likes
2,738
Favorite Player
Lautaro
played bravely for his age. Didn't know he was that much of a talent. Never seen him in action before tbh. Wow, we should keep him on the team next season
 

Earth

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
May 20, 2012
Messages
2,258
Likes
846
Favorite Player
Skriniar
10 years of FIF
we will regret selling this kid. his talent has been obvious to me for years.
 

Besnik

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 3, 2009
Messages
18,704
Likes
5,792
10 years of FIF
Looked quite competitive last night. In fact, there's a spark of brilliance each time I've seen him play.

Also looks well matured beyond the years. Hopefully he finds a new club where he could play regularly because he's very talented and looks like someone who could be very special in the near future.
 

Kova10

Capitano
Capitano
Joined
Apr 21, 2013
Messages
1,298
Likes
617
10 years of FIF
Let him show his brilliance on loan stints and sell him for big money. He doesn’t have space in our system as I think he is home on the wing, so earn the money with him to afford players actually necessary to the system
 

.h.

Part time Lazarus
La Grande Inter
Joined
Jun 8, 2005
Messages
29,310
Likes
7,401
Favorite Player
Inter1-0Wanda
Old username
browha
Forum Supporter
10 years of FIF
our system will change over time with different coaches etc. Have good players and build systems around them.
 

RotterdamNerazzurri

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Sep 11, 2020
Messages
950
Likes
1,380
Favorite Player
Bastoni&Barella
He indeed isn’t a natural fit for our system. And I don’t see Limone leave anytime soon, as he’s doing a good job atm. So that could be a problem for Carboni.

I just hope we will switch our mindset sooner or later. We really have some promising kids it seems.

Offcourse we should buy players when they are a reinforcement. But to see players as Sensi and Klaassen in our squad, to fill up our roster, is just plain stupid.
 

varmin

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Dec 23, 2014
Messages
9,456
Likes
8,999
Forum Supporter
Most Improved Member
Carboni is still too young and he could be converted to play in our system, this is not an issue. The problem is that he needs playing time on a competitive level, not to warm the bench at Monza. Give him 2 full seasons in a series B, and at age of 22, he will be ready to get a chance at Inter (if he developed properly).
 

CafeCordoba

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Mar 7, 2004
Messages
35,451
Likes
14,825
Favorite Player
Toro, Barella
10 years of FIF
Hopefully this goal and the fact Monza team gave him the lead to do SOMETHING right in the end of the match will make Palladino give him more minutes. He was the one who the ball was played to there in the end. Of course Monza might not be in such situations as often where opponent plays like a proper provincial side protecting a lead but one can always hope.
 

thatdude

Moderator
Moderator
Joined
Feb 18, 2010
Messages
19,735
Likes
10,004
10 years of FIF
FIF Special Ones
I don’t see why he can’t play as a SS striker in our system. A lot of clubs would have kept him in the first team this year and given him Sanchez’ minutes. However we play in Serie A so..
 

Besnik

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 3, 2009
Messages
18,704
Likes
5,792
10 years of FIF
I don’t see why he can’t play as a SS striker in our system. A lot of clubs would have kept him in the first team this year and given him Sanchez’ minutes. However we play in Serie A so..

I admire his footballing skills but he won't be getting enough playing time. Warming the bench all the time will only damage his development and probably destroy him mentally.

Inter is not an easy environment for youngsters, especially how we tend to complicate things to ourselves, challenging for trophies (high expectations), lack of patience and everything else. Since he's not getting that much playing time in Monza, he has to find another club in the league. But no Serie B.
 

Damageplan

Prima Squadra
Prima Squadra
Joined
Mar 3, 2013
Messages
929
Likes
1,113
Looked like a very promising winger but as already said he doesnt really have a place in our setup. Converting him to a new position would be a bad move considering he needs to improve what he already does best.
He will easily find a loan club to start.
 

Besnik

La Grande Inter
La Grande Inter
Joined
Mar 3, 2009
Messages
18,704
Likes
5,792
10 years of FIF
Looked like a very promising winger but as already said he doesnt really have a place in our setup. Converting him to a new position would be a bad move considering he needs to improve what he already does best.
He will easily find a loan club to start.

Well actually, getting to adjust into a new position isn't the worst idea as long as you are younger. I'm not saying same should be done on Carboni but just an example though. Pirlo wasn't naturally a regista in the beginning.
 

forzainter257

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Mar 22, 2018
Messages
5,303
Likes
2,738
Favorite Player
Lautaro
Carboni is still too young and he could be converted to play in our system, this is not an issue. The problem is that he needs playing time on a competitive level, not to warm the bench at Monza. Give him 2 full seasons in a series B, and at age of 22, he will be ready to get a chance at Inter (if he developed properly).
agree with the first part of your post, but disagree with your suggestion to loan him out to serie B clubs or anywhere else. We don't have to do what serie A does traditionally, we should start breaking the system. There's nothing wrong in giving an 18 y.o a first team role. Look at Gavi, Garnacho. Mbappe also started at teenage. Heck we had Balotelli who was in the first team at the age of 18. Sending the boy to serie B clubs will let him grow physically, but not with the right mentality
 

varmin

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Dec 23, 2014
Messages
9,456
Likes
8,999
Forum Supporter
Most Improved Member
agree with the first part of your post, but disagree with your suggestion to loan him out to serie B clubs or anywhere else. We don't have to do what serie A does traditionally, we should start breaking the system. There's nothing wrong in giving an 18 y.o a first team role. Look at Gavi, Garnacho. Mbappe also started at teenage. Heck we had Balotelli who was in the first team at the age of 18. Sending the boy to serie B clubs will let him grow physically, but not with the right mentality
Мbappe is a generation talent, but even he hasen't developed so much since his 19eens. Gavi suffered a heavy injury, which is most probably due to playing so many at so high intensity, so early. There is also Asnu Fati, who broke early but he also suffers injuries. Garnacho is not a completed footballer, and he could finish like Rashforrd or Matrial - not fullfiling their potential because of being thrown so early in a high demanding environment. When one starts playing regularly young player , one puts a lot of pressure on that players do not make mistakes. Young players actually need to make mistakes in order to learn and grow up. The other issue is that if one pushes playing young talents with not fully developed bodies in the heavy circle 3 games per week, there is risk of serious injuries at some point.
If Carboni shows that he is a generation talent in serie B or even at Monza now, I don't mind to get him at Inter and integrate him as rotational player at the beginning, but he hasn't showed those qualities so far. And for me is useless to slow down his development, treating him like Asllani for instance.
 

Hikonyán

Primavera
Primavera
Joined
Apr 28, 2021
Messages
341
Likes
475
So one goal for this guy and suddenly he is an Mbappe level talent that should be nurtured as such.

Jesus...
 

forzainter257

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Mar 22, 2018
Messages
5,303
Likes
2,738
Favorite Player
Lautaro
Мbappe is a generation talent, but even he hasen't developed so much since his 19eens. Gavi suffered a heavy injury, which is most probably due to playing so many at so high intensity, so early. There is also Asnu Fati, who broke early but he also suffers injuries. Garnacho is not a completed footballer, and he could finish like Rashforrd or Matrial - not fullfiling their potential because of being thrown so early in a high demanding environment. When one starts playing regularly young player , one puts a lot of pressure on that players do not make mistakes. Young players actually need to make mistakes in order to learn and grow up. The other issue is that if one pushes playing young talents with not fully developed bodies in the heavy circle 3 games per week, there is risk of serious injuries at some point.
If Carboni shows that he is a generation talent in serie B or even at Monza now, I don't mind to get him at Inter and integrate him as rotational player at the beginning, but he hasn't showed those qualities so far. And for me is useless to slow down his development, treating him like Asllani for instance.
He doesn't have to play 70 games per season. First team role isn't only about that. He just have to be a part of the team and get playing experience in coppa matches or against small teams in the league.

I am not sure if this conclusion "if you give an 18 year old a regular match experience he will get injured" is necessarily true. There are myriads of players who get ACL or other horrible injuries when they are 30+. You don't have to go far, look at Sensi. The dude doesn't even play 2 weeks in a row
 

varmin

Allenatore
Allenatore
Joined
Dec 23, 2014
Messages
9,456
Likes
8,999
Forum Supporter
Most Improved Member
He doesn't have to play 70 games per season. First team role isn't only about that. He just have to be a part of the team and get playing experience in coppa matches or against small teams in the league.
He needs to play and to make some mistakes from time to time in order to develop. What is the point to be like Asllani at age of 18? My point was to let him develop somewhere for 2 seasons, then to get that rotation place at Inter if he is good enough. He will be at 21 by that time. Why shall he rot on the bench so early? If he is an early bloomer like Rooney or Pato, I don't mind to squeeze whatever he can offer, but he doesn't look like that kind.

I am not sure if this conclusion "if you give an 18 year old a regular match experience he will get injured" is necessarily true. There are myriads of players who get ACL or other horrible injuries when they are 30+. You don't have to go far, look at Sensi. The dude doesn't even play 2 weeks in a row
I mean if he start playing regularly at age of 18 just like Gavi and Pedri for instance.
 
Top