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I had nothing to do ith the whole conversation over here regarding ultra mentalities and political discussions, so why the hell would ypou include me into your posts, I have been polite to you all the time, why the insult, if that's that, then take the whole pie.
Don't make me continue in this road, and let's leave it at that.
 

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I had nothing to do ith the whole conversation over here regarding ultra mentalities and political discussions, so why the hell would ypou include me into your posts, I have been polite to you all the time, why the insult, if that's that, then take the whole pie.
Don't make me continue in this road, and let's leave it at that.

Karim you're in da Nile.:D
 

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Di Canio? Is he a member of their Curva Nord or something like that?
 

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wats political in the IRR pic
 

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The moral of the story of all this is:

FUORI LA POLITICA DAL CALCIO.

You lot can get your google translators out and translate it.
 

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The moral, football has a closer link with politics that you could ever imagine, and its the last place really where people can truly vent their feelings...
 

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The moral, football has a closer link with politics that you could ever imagine, and its the last place really where people can truly vent their feelings...


I don't agree. Politics is about the way we live our lives and nothing more. Politics is all around us whether we like it or not. Ultras/ firms or just fans can express their passion without dragging themselves into the armpit on humanity by support fascists.

The right-wing pseudo Nazi's are ideologically and intellectually bankrupt and they have very few options but to look to football to recruit impressionable young white working class males with few prospects. They apply their twisted propaganda by offering simple solutions ie. it's a specific ethic group who are responsible for their poor run of luck.

However, as most of us that have a life know the human experience is far more complex than the extreme right portray.

I can't deny politics can be wrapped around football but the fascists are throwing you all a red heron. The issue we need to focus on are the consumption of football by multi-nationals.

In this new arena we the fan are no more than combined cash cows with brand awareness. Our loyalty and our passion for the game count for nothing. However, the soul of all clubs only exist in the fans.

Unity is Strength and Division is Weakness.
 
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But the reason, for example our fans are associated with the right is not just because they are 'stupid bla bla bla bla's' but because it is in their culture. Their grandparents probably grew up under il Duce and that's what they know. Everyone has the freedom to express him/herself in my opinion and that's why I may not like Communist fans like Livorno - I tolerate them. ;)
 

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But the reason, for example our fans are associated with the right is not just because they are 'stupid bla bla bla bla's' but because it is in their culture. Their grandparents probably grew up under il Duce and that's what they know. Everyone has the freedom to express him/herself in my opinion and that's why I may not like Communist fans like Livorno - I tolerate them. ;)

That is true because we live in a tolerate and liberal democracy. Although fascists would crush democracy given the chance, you are right, we must tolerate them. However, we must always be ready to defend our freedom at any given moment whether we're under immediate threat it from Euro-trash Nazi's or Islamo-fascism.

Curva Nord, within us all two wolves exist, the white wolf and the black wolf. They battle through our lives for control our soul. Which one wins is very much up to you.

It's the one you feed.
 
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Fabio

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Lol these are interesting 'debates' and even though I really dont think we should continue them in this topic, it's good stuff.

I guess your left winged and you obviously seem very AntiFa, fine by me - your black wolf can easily be someone else's white wolf and vice versa. ;)

I'm not extreme right but I do lean over to that side.
 

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Lol these are interesting 'debates' and even though I really dont think we should continue them in this topic, it's good stuff.

I guess your left winged and you obviously seem very AntiFa, fine by me - your black wolf can easily be someone else's white wolf and vice versa. ;)

I'm not extreme right but I do lean over to that side.

Curva Nord, I would never of guested ?

I do not agree with what you have to say, but I'll defend to the death your right to say it.
Voltaire
 

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I finally figured out ulivo. Wolf and dog stories sent my searches to animal planet and I found out the battle versus fascism ulivo performs here is very similar to this chimps battle versus the axis of terror.

Give a man a quote book and he'll think he's smart.
 

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I finally figured out ulivo. Wolf and dog stories sent my searches to animal planet and I found out the battle versus fascism ulivo performs here is very similar to this chimps battle versus the axis of terror.
Excellent comparison.. :lol:

Give a man a quote book and he'll think he's smart.
Yeah, it's either someone's quote or just copy/paste from some article..It's even more pathetic when he tries to use it as his own view(editing his previous posts).. :rolleyes:



@Fabio - Do you remember how much problems have BBB made to Milano's police when Milan played Dinamo in CL qualifications? That were some brutal scenes on Il Duomo..
 
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