The Suning Commerce Group

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Well, now I understand why there is speculation on a new sponsorship deal. It's a way for Suning to increase the limitations on the FFP restrictions right away. In order to renegotiate the terms the CFCB has to go through the books for the past 3 years, which will take far to long. By acquiring a new sponsor (whether it be a company owned by Suning or not), the CFCB investigates the "investment", and adapts break-even value from the resulting sponsorship. This could push Inter out of their FFP terms depending on how Suning et al structure the new sponsorship (which I'm pretty sure they'll push a huge amount of money towards it).

It seems that Suning, want to invest a LOT into Inter, as they are pushing UEFA to change Inter's FFP terms asap. I'm liking this ownership group. They want Inter to succeed, and are doing things right. ET literally spent nothing in 3 years and complained 90% of the time.

 

[Caecuban]

2 - no. It's linked companies and they will void it on fair value.

30m is not unrealistic and would probably not be revaluated according to international transfer price criteria. That's why I've mentioned 30m and not 100m.

 

[.h.]

It's not fair value if we struggled to get a new sponsor and had to go back to our old one cap in hand and get less money than we were previously. It would be fair in the premiership. It's not in Italy, where she top clubs fail to even get sponsors

 

[Adriano@10]

Honestly the only thing suning can try besides investing in our infrastructure is convince uefa to renegotiate FFP as soon as possible and maybe bring in some smaller sponsors and maybe take 1 of our dead weight players from our books. But they wont be able to float a huge amount of money to us through these chanells because of fair value restrictions.

So as long as we cant convince Uefa that our situation has changed and we can renegotiate ffp I dont expect them to be able to float huge sums to us.

 

[.h.]

What I'd like to see is maybe another 10-15 mil through new sponsorship, and then some decisive action on the player front. There's so much money to be made and saved by getting rid of Ranocchia, Nagatomo, Palacio, Melo, Santon, Carrizo, and thats before we think about Ljajic, Jovetic, Eder, etc.

There must be at least 15m transfer revenue in those names + maybe 25 million euros a year in salary ffs

 

[Shaun]

Not really the right place for this, but how is Brexit (if it happens) going to affect the EPL and their finances? The pound will get devalued, right? Therefore we'll be able to compete with English clubs easier?

 

[Wings]

Not really the right place for this, but how is Brexit (if it happens) going to affect the EPL and their finances? The pound will get devalued, right? Therefore we'll be able to compete with English clubs easier?

Probably? I mean the pound has already fallen whenever polls have shown strong support for Brexit.

 

[ScottishInterista]

Not really the right place for this, but how is Brexit (if it happens) going to affect the EPL and their finances? The pound will get devalued, right? Therefore we'll be able to compete with English clubs easier?

Main thing to be noted is that lots of players wont be able to stay through not being able to get workpermits that includes managers as well which will make things interesting, as well as that players who have grown this season like Kante, Martial and Payet would not of been allowed to be signed and any of the players which are already here will and do not comply will be unable to transfer to another British club. Its thought about 2/3 of the non british EU nationals fall into this category.

FA Work Permit Regulations | Requirements for international footballers to join the Premier League
A player from a FIFA ranked top-10 nation only has to have played in 30 percent of games in the two years prior to application to be granted a work permit
A player from a 11-20 nation must have played in 45 percent of international games
That rises to 60 percent for the next 10 countries, and 75 percent for countries ranked 31-50
Leaving the European Union would mean players from 27 countries still in the union would need to meet these criteria to qualify for an automatic work permit, unless other regulations were made.

This will mean that players from the top tier nations values will increase exponentially. A lot of smaller teams will therefore be unable to compete market wise and have to settle for less than mediocre players from these nations (Rano and Eder), I also doubt it will allow Chelsea to do their farming out method to Vitesse again as it will count against their non-EU limit if they have one.

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Some big names who would be forced to apply for permits are; Bellerin, Monreal, Flamini, Zouma, Remy, Deulofeu, Kante, Huth, Can, Moreno, Enrique, Mignolet, Lovren, Sakho (+ a couple of highly rated youngsters Ilori and Texiera), Navas, Sagna, Mangala, Clichy, Martial, Herrera, Januzaj, De Gea, Schneiderlin, Imbula, M'Vila, Kaboul, Payet, Obiang and Ogbonna.

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Wont sadly curtail the amount of Scots nationals who go join the Irish National team

 

[Shaun]

Well, sounds like it will be good for Serie A sides probably

 

[.h.]

It's hard to speculate, but probably something like:

1 - England has always been reasonably generous from a footballing perspective for handing out work permits where players arent getting them first time round. Expect this to continue to happen, there's always the 'exceptional talent' clause
2 - Devaluing of the pound means that their revenues are slightly decreased against European teams.
3 - A bunch of players to leave for Germany/Spain


But look on the other side:

4 - English clubs have massive revenue already, and if the pound devalues by 20%, suddenly being in the CL is worth 20% more. That might be an extra 20 million euros per club. Expect the top teams to actually compete even harder to get into the CL than previously
5 - Salaries might actually go UP in the short/medium term because of the devaluing pound as clubs look to retain their players. If the pound recovers any of the lost value, this means that they are going to be paying a shitload (or contracts are normalised in Euros like Ballack's was)
6 - Devaluing pound makes England quite attractive from an investment perspective. This makes football clubs, property, everything cheaper for international buyers, so dont be surprised if a wave of international investment comes flooding in to the premiership, and in fact the championship as well (given the amount of money on the table if they get promoted)


the other big thing is that all this uncertainty is already priced into the market. Thats not to say there wont be a drop if there is a Brexit, but actually if Britain votes to remain, you'll see a FLURRY of deals being completed after being uncertain for this time I bet.

 

[Kakaroto]

And brexit has happened. Italy next? #Pastaexit

 

[ScottishInterista]

Fuck me, live in a nation of retards. Time to emigrate

 

[German_Interista]

Fuck me, live in a nation of retards. Time to emigrate

Don't worry, Scotland will turn its back to England (hopefully)

 

[Kakaroto]

BBC guy on now predicting a big Leave victory in Hartlepool, the town most famous for hanging a monkey suspected of being a Napoleonic spy.

 

[.h.]

well in light of the brexit:

1 - the pound has devalued as expected. The FTSE hasnt tanked as much as initially thought, but we'll have to see where we stabilise. There's a lot of forwards uncertainty now, with no idea of who the two primary party leaders will be in 6 months, when Article 50 will be invoked, etc.
2 - As we've seen, its been a slow mercato anyway. This probably slows down the UK part of it further and leaves opportunity for European clubs. I wouldnt be too surprised to see some big-ish moves out of the premiership

 

[ScottishInterista]

The only british nation who decisively want to be in europe, is the only country not in the euros. Thats dedication

 

[.h.]

maybe scotland got EU confused with euros

 

[Kazaan]

And brexit has happened. Italy next? #Pastaexit

Quitaly

 

[Wings]

well in light of the brexit:

1 - the pound has devalued as expected. The FTSE hasnt tanked as much as initially thought, but we'll have to see where we stabilise. There's a lot of forwards uncertainty now, with no idea of who the two primary party leaders will be in 6 months, when Article 50 will be invoked, etc.
2 - As we've seen, its been a slow mercato anyway. This probably slows down the UK part of it further and leaves opportunity for European clubs. I wouldnt be too surprised to see some big-ish moves out of the premiership

Actually, considering that visa requirements probably won't be applied retroactively and that it's still uncertain what the new arrangement between Britain and the EU will be (Norway-style? Canada-style?) and how long it will take before it is implemented (as well as how long it will take for Britain to actually leave), I could see English clubs snapping up EU talent while they can still do so unhindered.

On the other hand, the pound is sinking like a stone, so maybe continental clubs are trying to shop British...

 

[Adriano@10]

Well Imho the Brits just fucked them selves because of their pride. From an economical point of view that decision was very poor.
Anyways I m still very skeptical if the stricter immigration rules will apply in football, as mentioned before a lot of their top players would not bee in the EPL if the rules were this strict when they got signed. I expect prices of foreign talent to increase quite a bit since they will only be able to brig in less so there will be more competition for the top talents.

Also they wont be able to bring under 18s to the UK anymore at least thats what the Gazzetta claims which also would harm their football a great deal.

Bottom line I guess this is gonna make it a bit harder for the EPL clubs but i doubt it s enough to change the momentum in our favour.