The Italian player debate

[Hammoudi]

Yeah, I have to agree with Mike, I honestly have no idea who started this notion that Grosso was a great LB, he NEVER was.

Besides, I think he played LWB in a 5-man midfield during his best days in Perugia, him and ZeMaria were for the most part on par. And that's his best position, being an LB requires him to do more backtracking speeding, something that he is bad at. LWB fitted him really well.

I am not saying he isn't a good LB, but there is no way that he's even been the best LB in Serie A.

About Italian players, I wish Matrix was 28 or 29 so that he can be an Italian symbol for the club for years to come. I think we do need a front-line Italian player, but I can't think of many names now, I don't think back-ups would do.

But I still think we should get Cassano, maybe in 4 years he will be what Materazzi is. And I think he is an Inter fan and I associate him with Bari (where I think he is from and where he started) more than with Roma.

 

[Hussein]

I agree with Hamed. Cassano will be a great buy, despite all the problems he causes.

I think that under Mancini he'll flourish and maybe become the great player he should be.

 

[Enzo]

Lucarelli, Quagliarella, Cassetti, Tavano, Zambrotta (who cares if he played for Juve so did Baggio). And I would definetly take Totti if he was willing to come here lol

Lucarellis is too old, there are better options purely because of age.
Quagliarella? check his stats from his career before this season, they say it all...he's lucky he's even playing Serie A coz those stats are pathetic.
Cassetti? meh, backup okay.
Tavano? all signs lead to one year wonder.
Zambrotta: it's like saying Nesta, won't happen.

the best Italian players already play for big teams, they are extremely hard to get, none would come within the range they should.

Rosina, Montolivo....we can get

 

[snake]

Rosina, Montolivo....we can get

true, we CAN but we shouldnt and wont. Ive watched both of them enough to know they are not enough for a team like Inter chasing European and domestic success.


Anybody who says they dont want Cassano because he is a trouble maker, is an absolute idiot. He has barely done anything in Spain and for the record, if he does anything at Inter..Mancini will just freeze him out and never call him up. That wont be a problem like at Roma, cause at Roma they had no one to back him up so they had to put up with his trouble and he knew they had no other choice.

At Inter we would not give a shit, we'd just play all our other striker and not call him up like we do with Recoba. That would be a risk if we payed 20mil for him and then did that too him, but this time round we wont be paying for him.


Its a completely different matter if you say its due to lack of form and gametime. I agree with that statement 100%. But I tell you this guys, Cassano is a freak..he always has been. Getting him very cheaply and then giving him an excellent pre season fitness wise and then we can ease him into it. If it doresnt work out, it was never a big loss cause his very cheap.

Its a gamble sure, if it doesnt work out then we lose a few million in wages but thats nothing to us..if it works out I garuntee you we have the next Totti.

The potential loss to potential gain ratio is massive,

remember guys, form is temporary..class is permanent.

 

[cheech]

Hate to see us get a player just because he's Italian.

However wouldn't mind seeing De Rossi, if not then Conti from Cagliari. Assuming Pizarro's not coming back and Dacourt & Vieira can't be expected to play a full season. This will free up Stankovic to cover Figo's role either wide or behind the strikers.

 

[Handoyo]

Just wanna support Jimmy in this Grosso info thingee. Like I mentioned somewhere before in this forum, Grosso indeed was already a hot prospect back in his Perugia days. I believe his breakthrough season was in 02/03 and a lot of big clubs, including us, were linked with him. However, in early 2003, he made a surprise move to sign with Palermo, who were still in Serie B (And were still gonna be in Serie B in 03/04).


Handyo

 

[Suneet]

true, we CAN but we shouldnt and wont. Ive watched both of them enough to know they are not enough for a team like Inter chasing European and domestic success.


Anybody who says they dont want Cassano because he is a trouble maker, is an absolute idiot. He has barely done anything in Spain and for the record, if he does anything at Inter..Mancini will just freeze him out and never call him up. That wont be a problem like at Roma, cause at Roma they had no one to back him up so they had to put up with his trouble and he knew they had no other choice.

At Inter we would not give a shit, we'd just play all our other striker and not call him up like we do with Recoba. That would be a risk if we payed 20mil for him and then did that too him, but this time round we wont be paying for him.


Its a completely different matter if you say its due to lack of form and gametime. I agree with that statement 100%. But I tell you this guys, Cassano is a freak..he always has been. Getting him very cheaply and then giving him an excellent pre season fitness wise and then we can ease him into it. If it doresnt work out, it was never a big loss cause his very cheap.

Its a gamble sure, if it doesnt work out then we lose a few million in wages but thats nothing to us..if it works out I garuntee you we have the next Totti.

The potential loss to potential gain ratio is massive,

remember guys, form is temporary..class is permanent.

Only a few who support that move on FI. Me,you and Stefan, nobody else. Ive been saying what you said, but apparently he will stay 24 X 7 in the dressing room and cause problems. Even if he's not called up.

 

[minterke]

Great post hal. Pretty much sums up my point of view on the Cassano thing. Ever since I started watching Serie A it was when Cassano was just starting to become a famous player and then in the 03-04 season he just freaked me the f*ck out I thought he was the best player in the world.

 

[Choppin Onions]

Yeah, Cassano was a freak couple years back. I remember the one year (cant remember which one) we played them in Rome and Totti and Cassano singlehandely tore the entire Inter team apart. It was rough to watch but at the same it was stunning football.

If Cassano could ever repeat that form, I'd fly to Madrid, rent a car and drive him to Milan.

 

[Stefan]

If Cassano can sort out his mental problems i will be the first to welcome him to Inter. But till he does that he is too big a risk imho.

 

[minterke]

What mental problems? lol

Everyone says he has mental problems but the Cassano I know is just a hot-headed young boy.

 

[snake]

stefan, read my post again.

His mental problems were only at Roma where they had nobody but him. At inter, if he plays up Moratti and Co will jsut give him the Coco treatment, so unlike Roma where he cant be replaced he would not dare do anything wrong here at Inter.. Man even aT Madrid his been a quite fella.


There really is no risk at such a cheap price, if he screws up then big deal we lose a few mil and not let him play - we lose nothing. however, if he has an amazing pre season, back in shape and form he will be the next Totti.

Weigh up the risks stefan.

 

[Hammoudi]

Hal on faya! That has to be the runaway post of the year (along with Mike's confession that he'd sport a nazi avatar if they play Milan.)

Yes, Cassano is a freak, and if he kept his cool and had a supporting team where he was everything, he'd be as good as Totti.

And spot on, we won't pay too much for him and he knows that if he messes up, it's his loss, he won't be as a big of a shot as he was at Roma.

Bring him.

 

[Stefan]

stefan, read my post again.

His mental problems were only at Roma where they had nobody but him. At inter, if he plays up Moratti and Co will jsut give him the Coco treatment, so unlike Roma where he cant be replaced he would not dare do anything wrong here at Inter.. Man even aT Madrid his been a quite fella.


There really is no risk at such a cheap price, if he screws up then big deal we lose a few mil and not let him play - we lose nothing. however, if he has an amazing pre season, back in shape and form he will be the next Totti.

Weigh up the risks stefan.

Do you really think Inter can handle two problem children at the same time?? We already have adriano who we have the school in the art of professionalism now you want us to try and school cassano at the same time??

I am not convinced about cassano.

 

[Handoyo]

His mental problems were only at Roma where they had nobody but him. At inter, if he plays up Moratti and Co will jsut give him the Coco treatment, so unlike Roma where he cant be replaced he would not dare do anything wrong here at Inter.. Man even aT Madrid his been a quite fella.

You can't be serious. :dazed:

 

[minterke]

At Madrid where you have idiots like Robinho (biggest idiot I've ever seen), Roberto Carlos, Capello etc who flap run their mouth all the time Cassano has been quiet yes.

 

[Suneet]

At Madrid where you have idiots like Robinho (biggest idiot I've ever seen), Roberto Carlos, Capello etc who flap run their mouth all the time Cassano has been quiet yes.

I agree with Mikey, Cassano has only been bad towards Crapello.

 

[interista]

We should sign cassano I think, in his best days he was BETTER THAN TOTTI. Its a gamble but why now?we are in the situation where we have right to gamble, I hope we sign cassano.

 

[Handoyo]

Why are we in the situation to gamble? When you gamble, it's because you have nothing to lose and you are hoping that your gamble pay off. We are winning right now and we will lose a great dressing room should one troublemaker spoil it all up. And besides, we are already taking a huge gamble by keeping Adriano.

Let's try and revive careers one by one. Adriano is in a huge slump and taking another player who is in the same kind of form is just ridiculous guys. And both players on their form, Adriano is much better so let's concentrate on him first.

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

At Madrid where you have idiots like Robinho (biggest idiot I've ever seen), Roberto Carlos, Capello etc who flap run their mouth all the time Cassano has been quiet yes.

this post doesnt even make sense.
Cassano has been everything but quiet at Madrid.
When he signed for them, he said how grateful he was to play for a club like Real Madrid. And how Capello is one tactician who understands him. blaah blaah blaah. Ten days in to the season, Capello is a f-ckin wanker. His imitations of Capello (which were quite funny tbh), and every other thing, just shows that he is simply retarded.
Then he gave another statement, that he is sorry for Roma, and would walk back to Rome, if given a chance.

And some one mentioned class is permanent?? When was the last time Cassano showed class. The only time I can remember was that Juve game, which was like 3-4 years ago