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Those of you who say Pioli sucks...Coaches who bring Lazio to 3rd place don't suck
Working as a coach for Lotito's Lazio is no picnic,not Inter or Palermo difficulty but not that far behind either
A 3rd place is very very good for a budget club like Lazio let's be honest

I think we all acknowledge Pioli's impressive achievement at Lazio. It's just that their CL qualification was just one season in the professional history of a guy who's been coaching since the early 2000s.

In all honesty, I have no idea on how he fared at Grosseto or Piacenza, the most I remember outside Lazio was his short stint at Palermo, which I won't use against him 'cause we're talking about Palermo. At this point, I'm a bit skeptical, but he's here anyway, so let's have an open mind about him.
 

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How is he better? Where have you seen this? Where you part of the primvera team that won a trophy?

Come on... wow... why.. lol...

He is good for Ajax but not for Serie A. And judging for trophies is ok but what did he won as coach? Erdivise? So if we take a Random coach who won at last 2 trophies in Erdivise, he is automaticly better then Pioli?

Rudi Garcia is also great for BBVA, but Serie A he sucked at Roma. Inter needs the ideal coach, not the coach with the most Trophies.
 

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ElDuccio;1561461 So if we take a Random coach who won at last 2 trophies in Erdivise said:

YES!

1000000 times YES.


How can he (the random coach) not be?

You take a coach that has won 2 erdivise and a coach that has won nothing, and you ask who is better?

Why would you even post somthing like this?

scratch the "oh, duh brah, he is italian" part, what else make you think pioli is good?
 

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Interesting enough Pioli loves the 4-3-3 and 4-2-3-1 like FdB does but with huge differences in style of play
Pioli wants to see quick football with quick passing down the wings while FdB preferred the tiki taka way with a lot of possession football with short passes throughout the field and a high df
Pioli as a respectable Italian wants a more compact df with less risk taking at the back
Bergkamp came out and accused FdB that his football has no sense of purpose and he only coppied it from his coaches as a player...
I dunno but Pioli made F.Anderson,Candreva,KeitaB and Kolse play some nice football
He gave Biglia an important role,he integrated De Vriij,Milinkovic-Savic,Cataldi...
Not so bad for a nobody...
Pioli isn't a a Mancini with no tactical system whatsoever...he prefers attacking football but with no big risk taking a la FdB,you can't do that in Italy or else you are done...quick as he was
Pioli was chosen in synch amongst the mgmt to the leadership ftom Suning so he must have been convincing enough in the interview/casting
 

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Exactly. I see those reports that Pioli didn't impress Suning thats why they interviewed Zola and Marcelino as Bullshit.

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If Pioli wouldn't convince Suning he wouldn't be our coach...simple as that
Ofc the mgmt and Kia advised Suning to get Pioli,that helped a lot tbh
 

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YES!

1000000 times YES.


How can he (the random coach) not be?

You take a coach that has won 2 erdivise and a coach that has won nothing, and you ask who is better?

Why would you even post somthing like this?

scratch the "oh, duh brah, he is italian" part, what else make you think pioli is good?

It depends in which Team he was. See Allegri, he was no one at Cagliari. Then he had a good team with Milan and won. The second year he sucked but now at Juve he showed again something.

I already said it and will say it: We need the ideal coach and not a coch who won something. Specialy if this something is "erdivicise" with Ajax. Thats ridiciolous, De Boer is a no one and at Inter he showed that he cant adapt hes football in Italy. Maybe it will work in other Leagues, who knows. But not here!
 

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.......

We went from good coach to a nobody.....

I skipped most of our comment to go right on the topic. You think that De Boer is better coach than Pioli. My question is based on what? And pls don't point me out these dry statistics. Do you like the way Inter have looked under De Boer? For me - not. We had good game agaisnt Jube but most of others was just pointless possession of the ball and boring crosses. And i don't say that Pioli is the better coach. Actually i watched 4-5 games of Lazio when they got the third spot and i liked his style there. But i dont know how he'll make it here. This is my point. You are going too far claiming him as nobody next to De Boer, because De Boer's coaching career is not something special. Evredivise is far weaker than Seria A and Ajax (with all due respect) is far, far away from Inter in terms of objectives and conception. There you have a feeder club, developing young prospects for selling. And here is a club always looking the top places both in Italy and Europe.
 

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It depends in which Team he was. See Allegri, he was no one at Cagliari. Then he had a good team with Milan and won. The second year he sucked but now at Juve he showed again something.

I already said it and will say it: We need the ideal coach and not a coch who won something. Specialy if this something is "erdivicise" with Ajax. Thats ridiciolous, De Boer is a no one and at Inter he showed that he cant adapt hes football in Italy. Maybe it will work in other Leagues, who knows. But not here!
Meh.

Stop mentioning other managers than these two, stop giving examples that have nothing to do with us. Fuck allegri, fuck milan, fuck juve.

Lets argue how is Pioli a better solution to us than Frank? Id suck your dick dry if you choos Pioli over Frank in the start of the season. You know it, i know it, even fuckin Pioli knows it. I get that we love inter and all that romantic bs, but stop looking for hope in something dead. This season is dead. Pioli is a downgrade to Frank or Mancini, we are fucked. End of fucking story.

I skipped most of our comment to go right on the topic. You think that De Boer is better coach than Pioli. My question is based on what? And pls don't point me out these dry statistics. Do you like the way Inter have looked under De Boer? For me - not. We had good game agaisnt Jube but most of others was just pointless possession of the ball and boring crosses. And i don't say that Pioli is the better coach. Actually i watched 4-5 games of Lazio when they got the third spot and i liked his style there. But i dont know how he'll make it here. This is my point. You are going too far claiming him as nobody next to De Boer, because De Boer's coaching career is not something special. Evredivise is far weaker than Seria A and Ajax (with all due respect) is far, far away from Inter in terms of objectives and conception. There you have a feeder club, developing young prospects for selling. And here is a club always looking the top places both in Italy and Europe.

Dude, there are so many things wrong with your post.

First you ask me on what do i base my opinion that Frank is better and also you add not to take into the consideration the FUCKING FACTS.

In that case, fuck facts, fuck messi, fuck ronaldo - Rocchi is better, cos i have seen him 5 times. Do you want me to take you seriousy? You bash stats and facts and put your 5 games of Pioli as more appropriate to judge skill and talent. wtf do you expect me to say?

Ajax is a feeder club but a fucking force in their league. We are nothing atm, kinda feeder club, but not that as well... anyway thats not my point, its just funny how stats and facts are not important and you watching 5 games is...

no wonder you guys like pioli...
 

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so...how's your period coming along Jane?! :troll:
 

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Jane im even the oppinion that our Season will start now with Pioli.

I think the arguments that speaks for Pioli are simply better.
De Boer =Needed too much time and hes football isnt made for Serie A.
 

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Jane im even the oppinion that our Season will start now with Pioli.

I think the arguments that speaks for Pioli are simply better.
De Boer =Needed too much time and hes football isnt made for Serie A.

So <3 months is too much time and because De Boer failed to turn the ship around after it had been set on the course that Italian and multiple time Serie A champion and Serie A experienced Roberto Mancini spent 18 months directing it in, who took the reigns from Italian and Serie A runner up and Serie A experienced Walter Mazzarri? So even though, 1st and 2nd failed, we're all supposed to believe that Italian and Serie A third place finisher and Serie A experience will somehow succeed?

His reign will most likely be as inconsistent and uninspiring as theirs as well. We'll win just enough to get our hopes up and then get figured out and badly exposed because our lack of structure and organization revealed itself. And then come May, we'll have gone nowhere developmentally, ignoring our youth so pieces of shit like Kondogbia and Nagatomo and D'Ambrosio can get their minutes, and still had failed in our objectives. *yawn* we've all been here long enough to have seen how this will turn out.

And lastly, to address De Boer's football, Inter under Frank were 5th in Europe in terms of chances created, we had taken so many steps forward this season and were on our way to becoming a modern, 21st century attacking football team, after years of playing Mazzarri's archaic football and Mancini's :palm:. Made for Serie A is bullshit. Give him a team of players who weren't shit/actually gave a fuck about the club they played for and the fans that pay their hard earned money to support them, he'd dominate this stupid league.
 
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Mazzarri had a shit team, there is no comparison. You can have Mou, Simeone, Klopp.. if the players are Nagatomo Kuz Alvarez you cant win something or reach something.
About Mancini we saw good things but also tacticly bad things. But i mean there was still some logic in his system some times. Example: The game of de Boer was holding ball and a very offensive football. Every game he played this system.


That "players give a shit about our club" is ridiciolous. Mancini had the same player but it was actualy his fault? Now De Boer has no faults thats why the players are ignoring our club? And please dont say "Mancini had 1-2 years". If you really saw every game you saw that hes shitty tactic from Ajax was there. There is no sense to play ultra offensive if you only cross the ball and have no original play. Every Club knows how Inter played, our tactic was just annoying as hell. No vertical passes, no inteligent game.. see how our players works in the national team. What De Boer made is a just a mediocre way to play. Its not difficult to see it, trust me.
 

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Meh.

Stop mentioning other managers than these two, stop giving examples that have nothing to do with us. Fuck allegri, fuck milan, fuck juve.

Lets argue how is Pioli a better solution to us than Frank? Id suck your dick dry if you choos Pioli over Frank in the start of the season. You know it, i know it, even fuckin Pioli knows it. I get that we love inter and all that romantic bs, but stop looking for hope in something dead. This season is dead. Pioli is a downgrade to Frank or Mancini, we are fucked. End of fucking story.



Dude, there are so many things wrong with your post.

First you ask me on what do i base my opinion that Frank is better and also you add not to take into the consideration the FUCKING FACTS.

In that case, fuck facts, fuck messi, fuck ronaldo - Rocchi is better, cos i have seen him 5 times. Do you want me to take you seriousy? You bash stats and facts and put your 5 games of Pioli as more appropriate to judge skill and talent. wtf do you expect me to say?

Ajax is a feeder club but a fucking force in their league. We are nothing atm, kinda feeder club, but not that as well... anyway thats not my point, its just funny how stats and facts are not important and you watching 5 games is...

no wonder you guys like pioli...

Wow! I've never said that Pioli is the better coach. I only said that i liked how Lazio looked under him at that season, nothing more. In my view we going from NOBODY to nobody, but you makes De Boer like a world beater coach, based on some dry stats.Because of that i have asked you do you know him before? And how many games of Ajax did you watched when he was there?
You said it, Ajax is force in Holland and it's always been - before De Boer and after him. I admit that De Boer brought them titles missing a long time before, but this doesn't make him better coach than Pioli , especially IN Italy. And Inter play in Italy, not in La Liga, not in Evredivise.
 

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Well, Pioli should have won Serie A with Bologna then and only then we can compare him to FdB. :lol:
 

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This Pioli appointment reminds me of when Inter signed Mancini for the first time.

in that case, the only way for us to win the league again with pioli is another calciopolli. because as far as i remember, mancio was bad with us before calciopolli
 

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It depends in which Team he was. See Allegri, he was no one at Cagliari. Then he had a good team with Milan and won. The second year he sucked but now at Juve he showed again something.

I already said it and will say it: We need the ideal coach and not a coch who won something. Specialy if this something is "erdivicise" with Ajax. Thats ridiciolous, De Boer is a no one and at Inter he showed that he cant adapt hes football in Italy. Maybe it will work in other Leagues, who knows. But not here!
I don't consider Allegri a top coach but he was considered a good coach even when he was coaching Cagliari. He had even won Panchina d'Oro, ahead of Mourinho, in his first season at Cagliari.
 

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I don't consider Allegri a top coach but he was considered a good coach even when he was coaching Cagliari. He had even won Panchina d'Oro, ahead of Mourinho, in his first season at Cagliari.

Well then Mazzarri and Sarri before Napoli
There is written Serie C over all!
https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maurizio_Sarri

And our team is not worser then Napolis Mazzarri or Sarris.
 

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there is no way we win scudetto or reach CL with Mazzarri , maybe if you had Cavani , Hamsik and Lavezzi , we can do that..

its so fucking annoying you comparing Mazzari team with De Boer team, and everyone know how much value in De Boer team.

you had Miranda, Perisic , Brozovic , Banega , and Candreva, all starting in NT . and Mazzari had is , meh team.

and with Mancini, all you think is easy to convert Mazzari tactics 3 defender to 4 defender ?
and you all think other team not improved when they see Inter better ?

if Mancini get all player he want ( Dybala , Biglia , Yaya Toure , a world class central defender ).
trust me , i bet my house. we can get 2nd or 3rd place this year.

Inter management is fucking stupid . buy Gabigol for bench is an example. And that money is fucking huge.
if our management are insane , they buy a quality CB and Full back with that money.

and now more more stupid , lets buy Di Maria , when Murillo are inconsistent because he had no competitor.
try example in Madrid , Varane had Pepe and Ramos for motivation , when Murillo had Rano , is joke :eek:blivious:
 
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