Sporting Lisbon - Inter (12 Sep 06)

[Fabio]

The reason I single out Adri more than Ibra is because both have similar styles of collecting the ball, and tonight that the midfield provided no service it was actually Ibra who went for the ball instead of Adri.

Fabio

 

[Hammoudi]

What pissed me off maybe the most was the tactical placing of players. Even an amateurs eye like me saw this was completely bullshit. We had two lines. One which was sitting at half way line and other that was sitting in opponents box. And between them there were few Sporting players and others were with the guys in box. So every ball got kicked to the area where there wasn't any Inter players so Sporting started builiding their attacks from total freedom. Also... when a player is holding the ball long in the side of the box usually players should run into the box and not stay 5 meters away from it. We basically always had only two players in the box againist Sportings 4 or 5. Maybe we should've tried one very very tricky move by bringing Materazzi to attack to ****ing win the headers becauese others weren't doing it. I know Estonia does that trick in internationals when behind with one goal and it often creates lots of chances.

Excellent tactical analysis and I agree with it. Good point about Materazzi, but we already had Crespo who is a dangerous header, but the crosses weren't there.

I don't about some here, but I didn't Maicon was that bad, he was specially better in the second half. Too bad Stan was Stan and Figo was off and neither could play good 1-2 with him. They left this task to Dacourt (who wasn't bad either) but can't do these things anymore

 

[Tanel]

Get real. We have beaten Roma and Fiorentina even though it is clear a lot of our players are lacking fitness at this time of the season. They lost one match away from home. Big deal. Don't make it worse than it is...

You don't understand. In CL every win is with a price of a gold, every point tastes like fresh honey and every loss will put you in shit. There are six games, we lost one, the first one which is acutally probably the most important one as it put the pressure on us for the all 5 games. Now we need to win atleast one of the games vs. Bayern, both vs. Spartak and also Sporting one. In this group you'll definately need over 10 points to go through.

 

[Karim]

Mancini played with Adr as a supporting striker---------------wrong

Mancini played with Dacourt, Grosso, and Maicon-------------wrong

Mancini played with a Vieira and Dacourt and Vieria cannot play as a supporting offensive midfielder while Dacourt is behind him all the time because Vieira isn't an OM.

Manicini played with Mariano in the CL-------------------wrong

Mancini played Crespo instead of Adriano-----------------wrong and Vieira's red card is not a reason, he need to risk it to get a goal, since he got Figo out, who the hell is providing for the team thus....

Mancini subing Figo--------------------------------------wrong

Mancini played with Ibra as a lead striker on the left and Adri supporting on the right-----------------------------------------------wrong

Mancini isn't good in Europe and is sometime array in Serie A, Mancini, please leave!!

 

[1919]

The reason I single out Adri more than Ibra is because both have similar styles of collecting the ball, and tonight that the midfield provided no service it was actually Ibra who went for the ball instead of Adri.

Fabio

so acc to u adri shud also havee dropped into the midfield??? both forwards in the midfield???

now thatz what i call an idea !!!

 

[Fabio]

Woah there Karim slow down, you want him to leave after one loss?

Fabio

 

[Hussein]

Our performance tonight was awful to say the least. I think Mancio should forget about playing the 4-4-2. Figo is useless when he's used on the wings, Stankovic and Grosso are clearly out of form.

However, I'll be positive and I think that if we needed to lose a game I preferred losing this game rather than losing in the league against Sampdoria or Roma.

This game is over and the performance is one to forget surely, but let's look forward as nothing is lost yet.

 

[Marcello]

I guess we cant win them all

 

[Perttu10]

Voi vittu nuo on paskoja saatana!!!!!

What a phucking bunch of pussies. Jesus christ. Phucking losers.

I love your attitude!

 

[Karim]

Toldo did the worst thing a GK woul;ddo, I knoew because here in Egypt I play as a GK since 1994.
He was outside to have an advantage to get to the ball quicker, consistant with all GKs, but the problem is that he didn't get enough leverage to the ball as he went for far right then turned his entire body to the left in mid-air, that movement of the body combined with the force of his hands applied to the ball is small as most of his energy is focused on turing his upper body to the ball's direction, thus the force applied to the ball was minimal and that led tot he ball just hitting thee crossbar and entering the goal, Toldo's mistake 100%

 

[zip]

What say about Adriano ? LOL HEHEHE

 

[Fabio]

so acc to u adri shud also havee dropped into the midfield??? both forwards in the midfield???

now thatz what i call an idea !!!

I don't know where you got your education but learn to read. In case it was a bit unclear - here it is in capitals.

TODAY WHERE THE MIDFIELD WAS NOT PROVIDING, ADRIANO SHOULD HAVE MADE THE SAME EFFORT AS IBRAHIMOVIC TO DROP INTO THE MIDFIELD AND COLLECT THE BALL.

Ok?

Fabio :wallbang:

 

[Tanel]

The reason I single out Adri more than Ibra is because both have similar styles of collecting the ball, and tonight that the midfield provided no service it was actually Ibra who went for the ball instead of Adri.

Fabio

They both dropped there once in a while, but both of them in the end got frustrated. They went to pick up the ball, they got it, moved foward and then suddenly they had to face the fact that there was no-one to ****ing give the ball as no-one even bothered to move up. It tires you and then you also get a feeling that it's pointless to make that work. I wouldn't be suprised if every Sporting player ran twice as much distance as our most active guy. Even Toldo ran more than some of our midfielders.

 

[Inter101]

Fabio, with this team we shouldnt be losin. plus u kno how f-in inconsistent mancini is, when u start givin up hopoe, he surprises you, only to return to crappier state. Now I didnt watch this match, so can someone tell me what the fck happened???!!!???

 

[Karim]

I don't know where you got your education but learn to read. In case it was a bit unclear - here it is in capitals.

TODAY WHERE THE MIDFIELD WAS NOT PROVIDING, ADRIANO SHOULD HAVE MADE THE SAME EFFORT AS IBRAHIMOVIC TO DROP INTO THE MIDFIELD AND COLLECT THE BALL.

Ok?

Fabio :wallbang:

Adri was in the midfield, I think he was playing as a midfielder actually not an attacker. I saw him standing by Dacourt in one ball

 

[Fabio]

Fabio, with this team we shouldnt be losin. plus u kno how f-in inconsistent mancini is, when u start givin up hopoe, he surprises you, only to return to crappier state. Now I didnt watch this match, so can someone tell me what the fck happened???!!!???

I know man, but remember at the beginngin - Mancio's 3 year project? We might as well hold out for one more year.

Fabio

 

[Karim]

Fabio, with this team we shouldnt be losin. plus u kno how f-in inconsistent mancini is, when u start givin up hopoe, he surprises you, only to return to crappier state. Now I didnt watch this match, so can someone tell me what the fck happened???!!!???

Mancini is not consistnt with his formation, I mean in his first CL match he should give it all right?

Playing with Dacourt, OK but he can't live besides Vieira, but no Zanetti, no attack on the right, but Maicon is OK, but in CL he was struggling

 

[Tanel]

Toldo did the worst thing a GK woul;ddo, I knoew because here in Egypt I play as a GK since 1994.
He was outside to have an advantage to get to the ball quicker, consistant with all GKs, but the problem is that he didn't get enough leverage to the ball as he went for far right then turned his entire body to the left in mid-air, that movement of the body combined with the force of his hands applied to the ball is small as most of his energy is focused on turing his upper body to the ball's direction, thus the force applied to the ball was minimal and that led tot he ball just hitting thee crossbar and entering the goal, Toldo's mistake 100%

Toldo moved to far right because the ball was heading towards that direction originally, but then it started to curl other way and Toldo sure did have to concentrate his energy on getting other way, but he had do concentrate his energy there because otherwise he would've not had any chance to save it at all. The only mistake he did was going to the other direction which was partly understandable move as the ball didn't start curling rightaway. But also, a classy defender would've definately not given oppoenent an opportunity for such shot, while Maicon made a clown attemt to stop Caneira.

 

[Forza ragazzi]

Excellent tactical analysis and I agree with it. Good point about Materazzi, but we already had Crespo who is a dangerous header, but the crosses weren't there.

I don't about some here, but I didn't Maicon was that bad, he was specially better in the second half. Too bad Stan was Stan and Figo was off and neither could play good 1-2 with him. They left this task to Dacourt (who wasn't bad either) but can't do these things anymore

Agree on Dacourt. He was our best player this evening. By far.

 

[Tanel]

One of the plunders to the Mancini bucket no doubt is the fact that he somehow thought that formation that works in Italy also does the job in Europe. I don't even think they (coaching staff) made any proper research on Sporting's playing style.