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He is a a Bielsa disciple having played for him before. He is very successful in South America doing a great job with Paraguay and with Newells last season he won the Torneo Final but lost against the Torneo inicial winner in the "final." He also reached the Copa Libertadores semi-final losing against Ronaldiho's Atletico Mineiro.

I don't know if he is Barcelona level, probably not, but he has a good track is South America.

This is what INTER should be doing and I applaud Barca for doing it...STICK TO A MODEL. We chase somebody with a "track record" or somebody to "stabilize" without thinking for a second about football philosophy, playing style e.t.c. We chase the short term. They chase the long term.

All successful coaches have to start somewhere. Martino is a very, very good coach who embodies their playing style and fits well with the barca squad. THAT is more important than chasing down random coaches who's ideas do not match your players and then whine, cry and blame the coach when it doesn't work out :lol:
 

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In my opinion, Martino will surprise many people. Very good coach.
 

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This is what INTER should be doing and I applaud Barca for doing it...STICK TO A MODEL. We chase somebody with a "track record" or somebody to "stabilize" without thinking for a second about football philosophy, playing style e.t.c. We chase the short term. They chase the long term.

All successful coaches have to start somewhere. Martino is a very, very good coach who embodies their playing style and fits well with the barca squad. THAT is more important than chasing down random coaches who's ideas do not match your players and then whine, cry and blame the coach when it doesn't work out :lol:

Definitely agree.
 

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Official - Tata Martino is the new coach of Barca.
 

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What is this about Messi choosing the coach?
 

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It's speculated that Messi had influence because of the Newell's connection. Tata was a Newell's player when Messi was a kid & more recently was their coach too.
 

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It's speculated that Messi had influence because of the Newell's connection. Tata was a Newell's player when Messi was a kid & more recently was their coach too.

It is said that he is the idol of Messi's dad and that he was who "suggested" it. It is also said that Messi was a little mad about certain things that had gone on, like buying Neymar, and that it was an effort to appease him.
 

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Dat conspiracy theory :datass:
 

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This is what INTER should be doing and I applaud Barca for doing it...STICK TO A MODEL. We chase somebody with a "track record" or somebody to "stabilize" without thinking for a second about football philosophy, playing style e.t.c. We chase the short term. They chase the long term.

All successful coaches have to start somewhere. Martino is a very, very good coach who embodies their playing style and fits well with the barca squad. THAT is more important than chasing down random coaches who's ideas do not match your players and then whine, cry and blame the coach when it doesn't work out :lol:


Problem is we haven't had a specific playing style since Mourinho left. Our players are all mixed up signings that multiple coaches have chosen. We fucked up big time when we signed Benitez and it has been getting worse with each new manager. At some point you have to appoint a manager who does have a clear idea of how he wants to play (like Mazzarri) and hope that he can restructure the squad and give it an identity.
 

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To be fair, we didn't even have a style of play under Mourinho either. We were 4312 in league, and 4231 in CL. It isn't just about formations, but strategies were different too. The only coaches we had who had ideas and a style were Benitez and Gasperini. But neither were supported by the management.

Yes, the players too are mixed and bought without a particular strategy in mind. But even then, we have the older players still as core of the team who really cannot be moulded into any style of play.
 

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To be fair, we didn't even have a style of play under Mourinho either. We were 4312 in league, and 4231 in CL. It isn't just about formations, but strategies were different too. The only coaches we had who had ideas and a style were Benitez and Gasperini. But neither were supported by the management.

Yes, the players too are mixed and bought without a particular strategy in mind. But even then, we have the older players still as core of the team who really cannot be moulded into any style of play.


Sorry, but I disagree. Mourinho had a definite style of play. He may have used different formations, but he knew the way he wanted us to play and the players understood that. He knew the players he needed to bring in to support that style and the management backed him by getting those players.
 

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Sorry, but I disagree. Mourinho had a definite style of play. He may have used different formations, but he knew the way he wanted us to play and the players understood that. He knew the players he needed to bring in to support that style and the management backed him by getting those players.

It could hardly be called a style. But even if we agree that we had an identity under him, it was hardly sustainable. It definitely isn't that way a team could be built or moved forward with. Only if the management realized that..
 

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We had an identity as in everybody knew their role and we were sure those players could play there and we were balanced.
 

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Our identity over the past decade has always been 7-8 players doing the dirty donkey works, and 2-3 players doing miracles upfront.

It sounds stupid I know, but even during our most successful years, that was our game play.

So yea, our identity is not having any identity. :D
 

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It's speculated that Messi had influence because of the Newell's connection. Tata was a Newell's player when Messi was a kid & more recently was their coach too.

Yeah, that's true... But have any of you seen Martino's Newell's play style? It was very similar to Barcelona's, NO long balls, defenders playing with the goalkeeper... I've seen them live in the quarter-finals of the Copa Libertadores and reminded me a lot of Barcelona's play style.
I really think that Martino will fit perfectly in Barça
 

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Tiki Taka Tito Tata. Toddler talk to some. Mes que un club for others:

Tata: "Messi spoke to the club about signing me"

Messi: "I had nothing to do with the club signing Tata"

:eek:blivious:
 

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the Spanish League lost a lot of good players this year, more than before

will not be checking it at all
 

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anybody else watching Real?
 

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Didn't know where to put it, but...

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