Serie A Calcio Mercato, Winter 2018-19

[dynasty27]

Looks like Inter plan to sell Candreva this winter (West Ham) and use those funds to get De Paul on loan + option from Udinese. The one thing I like about De Paul is that he is very versatile - can play in any role behind Icardi (LW, AM, RW), which makes him a good utility man to have on the squad.

Does it matter for this season that he's non-EU (no Italian pass acc. transfermarkt)?
Probably dependent on Miranda.

 

[Bluenine]

Does it matter for this season that he's non-EU (no Italian pass acc. transfermarkt)?
Probably dependent on Miranda.

I could be wrong but I think non-EU is not an issue for players who are already in Serie A.

 

[Il Drago]

De Paul has an Italian passport. Anyway, i don't think we'll get De Paul now. We're probably trying to book him for next season.

 

[Delicate]

Non-EU quotas aren't applicable for internal transfers. That being said,I doubt that Udinese will give us De Paul,they are risking relegation battle without him onboard.

 

[Alex de Large]

Inter is like me when I decide buying something to wear. I look at my wardrobe and see that I need a new shirt because all I have are worn, so I plan to buy a couple of new shirts and go to the shopping mall, spend like half a day, buy everything but shirt that I actually needed the most. Seriously, don't we need AMC or are we sure Radja gave up drinking?

We need an AM even if we keep 9golan and he plays good. Borja should be gone asap

 

[andrei]

De Paul has an Italian passport. Anyway, i don't think we'll get De Paul now. We're probably trying to book him for next season.

I saw de Paul in maybe 3 games. I like the player, anyway more than Keita. He doesn't have the same pace or dribbling but he is a very good passer, calm under pressure and he knows how to read the game. Can play in every position along a striker like Icardi.
This is the year when he made a big leap in quality. Hopefully is not an year wonder.

 

[firmino]

I could be wrong but I think non-EU is not an issue for players who are already in Serie A.

Exactly. It's not so much a Serie A rule per se as an immigration law with a specific norm set for professional sports. So if the player is already in Italy, he isn't counted in the two because he isn't moving to the country.

Every ue country has its own set of rules on the matter of non-ue players.

On a side note, Ramsey could become a non-ue player in the near future.

 

[chipschups]

Chelsea have accepted a loan bid from Lazio for Davide Zappacosta. The deal include an option to buy of £13.5m. (Source: Sun Sport) https://t.co/WxZmEL1beL

 

[wera]

Looks like Inter plan to sell Candreva this winter (West Ham) and use those funds to get De Paul on loan + option from Udinese. The one thing I like about De Paul is that he is very versatile - can play in any role behind Icardi (LW, AM, RW), which makes him a good utility man to have on the squad.

Watch out, some FIFers get frustrated at the words 'versatile' and 'utility'

 

[varmin]

Watch out, some FIFers get frustrated at the words 'versatile' and 'utility'

It's me. But i also like De Paul as player.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Based on fucking WHAT? Based on your opinion, cause I'm not seeing any fucking arguments here that we can discuss like grown-ups. Just opinions and opinions are like farts - anyone has them, but I'm not very fond of hearing them.





Now, here's what you yourself wrote: "I think it is good to get out of our Inter bubble and acknowledge the fact that Juve easily compete financially with the top of the top. Premiere League clubs mean jack shit to Juve, fucking french peasant clubs same, German league as well, peasant league but in german. Juventus are on the top. Financially only Real beats them with their fishy tactics, as for Barca - they probably fuck them too, but Barca’s prestige is a tiny bit higher atm."

Deloitte is one of the largest accounting firms in the world, it's not some click-baity list as you label it. It's financial facts that clearly show you that no, Juve isn't able to "financially compete with the top of the top".





And here comes the dick sucking - "At the moment Juventus functiones better than any other team that i know of". Again, can't disagree but you can't really say the other clubs from that Top 10 are mismanaged. Maybe MU right now, but that's a different topic. We're not discussing who is the best performing club right now, we're discussing financials.

As to West Ham, yeah, maybe they are a lot less appealing to most top players than a club like Juventus. Still, in the list before them, we can see teams that are much more decorated - Real, Liverpool, Barcelona, Man United, Bayern. They were appealing in the past, they are appealing now. So not only Juve has less spending power than those, it's not even more appealing of a club. My argument wasn't that West Ham has more money than Juve and that's why Mbappe would go there.




If we were first place in this list, I guarantee you, no player would be able to say no. Why did Mbappe go to PSG, because of their illustrious history or the quality of the league, or maybe because he's French? No, cause they had 180M to dish out for his services.




Lol, we might argue that Godin is one of the best CBs in world football for the last couple of years, both are almost the same age - one will cost us nothing. Again, absolutely ill informed and delusional argument.

Now, for the world's best player I'd refer you to Drago's comment from earlier:

Dude youvan break down my post to thousand mini sentences... but still you missed my point.

Juventus at the moment is an example of how should a powerhouse team behave and compete.

You are posting a list just so you can be right, where the reality is Ronaldo would never join teams like Arsenal, Bayern, Liverpool etc, if Juventus was on the mix with those teams for signing him.

And saying that nobody really wanted Ronaldo thats why Juve had it easy to sign him... like what the hell man???


All i said was: Juventus are on the top at the moment, if they need a player and they want him, they can literally sit down with every player, talk about contract and shit, because they have the power the money the prestige the appeal to do so.

Then you posted a list saying that Juve cant compete with vanilla teams like arsenal or teams that get funded illegally like psg and city. Which isnt true at all.

Anyway, we’ll go on endless circle with this convo. I guess we see at this differently.

 

[Wobblz]

Teams like Arsenal, Liverpool and Bayern would never buy a 33-year-old on 30M a year after tax. But yeah, let's agree to disagree

 

[Norinder Mudi]

Robben would be a great mentor for our younger players like Karamoh.

It never works like that, NEVER. Who exactly has Zanetti mentored? Or Pirlo? It's just something everyone says but world class players are only committed to working hard and improving their own game, they don't mentor. Mentoring is for the just above average players, like in life you only teach if you're not good enough to do it yourself.

 

[Wobblz]

It never works like that, NEVER. Who exactly has Zanetti mentored? Or Pirlo? It's just something everyone says but world class players are only committed to working hard and improving their own game, they don't mentor. Mentoring is for the just above average players, like in life you only teach if you're not good enough to do it yourself.

Yeah, the whole apprenticeship practice in the history of mankind is just bullshit. This literally NEVER happened. Never a master took a young guy to transfer skills to. Never fucking ever.

See, a great player doesn't necessarily need to hold some youngsters hand, take him to the mountain healer, smoke trees and discuss the philosophy of the game for three days and three nights. For youngsters, it's enough to see a dedicated professional that gives his all on and off the pitch. Of course, when you're better than someone else it's almost a given you give him a hint or two on some things as well, especially when he's part of your group and him doing well would also indirectly benefit you. He sees your flaws, by observing how you play and can give very valuable input.

Now, Robben and Karamoh, even by just observing a player like Robben you can learn a lot. Look no further than your own players at juve, remember what they said about Ronaldo in training? Dude inspires them to be better and that's just by looking at how he trains and behaves.

 

[brehme1989]

It never works like that, NEVER. Who exactly has Zanetti mentored? Or Pirlo? It's just something everyone says but world class players are only committed to working hard and improving their own game, they don't mentor. Mentoring is for the just above average players, like in life you only teach if you're not good enough to do it yourself.

1) Completely out of touch, unrealistic approach.
2) Mentoring doesn't equal to "getting paid for a teaching role".
3) Mentoring is purely mental and its effects will not improve the quality of football skills, so again, you're completely out of reality.

 

[Norinder Mudi]

Okay, same question applies to you - based on what? There are two sides to a sports club - the financial and the sporting. Financially I posted the lists, you're nowhere near the top 5, let alone 1st or 2nd.

In the sporting aspect, yeah, you're owning Italy at the moment. Fair enough. Although the quality of the league has been shit and your usual competitors are in their biggest slumps ever. In Europe you had good performances but won nothing. We'll see how far can you go in this year's CL.

I think the Ronaldo transfer gets to your head. What was scary before in Juve is now gone - the rock-solid defence in BBC and the athletic and technical midfield you used to have with Pogba, Pirlo, Vidal. If you didn't win it then I doubt this squad is better. Honestly, I'm not at all impressed with how both stand right now, especially the midfield is laughable but that's up for debate, maybe I'm too biased to see how Can, Bentancour, Pjanic is even remotely world class to compete at the top. The attack is scary tho but will it be sufficient for you to mount any serious threat for the CL we're yet to see.

Based on what? Based on every top player who will choose us over Arsenal and Man City and Bayern and Manure and every other team that's ahead of us in your lists except for Madrid and maybe Barcelona.
Serie A has been shit? Do you think EPl or bundesliga is stronger than us? Serie A has been shit since 2007 but it's at its strongest since 2007. I don't get this argument about Serie A being shit just because we steamroll the rest of the team, compared to any league it's right up there. You're criminally overrating other leagues.
How did the ronaldo transfer get to my head? Was it by a stroke of luck we landed the best player in the world? Did it happen overnight that we get WC players and our best players don't want to move and that if we decide to buy someone there's no one who would reject us if we give them the money they want? No, it took us 8 years to reach that level. You say our mid is laughable but it's up for debate? There is no debate, it's best in serie A but without debate a shit midfield if we are to be better than Madrid or Barca. That's the only thing we lack. BBC was strong but it's not about you overrating them it's about you undereating the current defense. Benatia can walk into any team in Europe and we have him on the bench, Rugani is the future and has had 50 mil bids repeatedly rejected. Killini has been better than ever this year, bonehead is the same. We have Sandro instead of Asamoah and cuadrado and cancello instead of lich.

 

[Alex de Large]

Serie A has been shit in last 5 years because Milan and Inter have not been at they're best level. But once they get back to they're level then Serie A will be as good as Spanish and English leagues.

Juve won some leagues against NAPOLI..
Napoli lol... with a budget similar to teams like Everton, Valencia, Villarreal and West Ham lol. No one in the world take it seriously bro.

 

[Norinder Mudi]

Yeah, the whole apprenticeship practice in the history of mankind is just bullshit. This literally NEVER happened. Never a master took a young guy to transfer skills to. Never fucking ever.

See, a great player doesn't necessarily need to hold some youngsters hand, take him to the mountain healer, smoke trees and discuss the philosophy of the game for three days and three nights. For youngsters, it's enough to see a dedicated professional that gives his all on and off the pitch. Of course, when you're better than someone else it's almost a given you give him a hint or two on some things as well, especially when he's part of your group and him doing well would also indirectly benefit you. He sees your flaws, by observing how you play and can give very valuable input.

Now, Robben and Karamoh, even by just observing a player like Robben you can learn a lot. Look no further than your own players at juve, remember what they said about Ronaldo in training? Dude inspires them to be better and that's just by looking at how he trains and behaves.

1) Completely out of touch, unrealistic approach.
2) Mentoring doesn't equal to "getting paid for a teaching role".
3) Mentoring is purely mental and its effects will not improve the quality of football skills, so again, you're completely out of reality.

Providing motivation and other learning from watching you are way different than "mentoring" someone

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Serie A has been shit in last 5 years because Milan and Inter have not been at they're best level. But once they get back to they're level then Serie A will be as good as Spanish and English leagues.

Juve won some leagues against NAPOLI..
Napoli lol... with a budget similar to teams like Everton, Valencia, Villarreal and West Ham lol. No one in the world take it seriously bro.

What's la liga if you remove the top two? And EPl better and Serie A is shit? Lol I don't even know how to respond to that.
So serie was not shit 5 years ago? Because before 5 years ago we won serie A twice with the likes of vucinic (Ronaldo) Giovinco (Douglas Costa) Matri (Dybala and Mandzukic) lich (cancello) Asamoah (Sandro) Simone Pepe (cuadrado) estigaribia (someone way better) Padoin Giachaneri and we went undefeated for one and a half season

 

[Bluenine]

It never works like that, NEVER. Who exactly has Zanetti mentored? Or Pirlo? It's just something everyone says but world class players are only committed to working hard and improving their own game, they don't mentor. Mentoring is for the just above average players, like in life you only teach if you're not good enough to do it yourself.

Mentorship works at an informal level. Like Skriniar learnt a lot playing with Miranda. Pogba said that he chose Juve to learn from the maestro. Just training and playing alongside players of that calibre makes youngsters learn a lot, valuable skills that their trainers / coaches cannot teach them.

Also, having a young and talented back up to a world class ageing player is a classic succession plan. That said, I don't want Robben at Inter.

 

[n4l]

jube dude clearly never played a lick of football at any type of organized level; probably, at best, sunday pick up.