Samir Handanovic

[Armes]

you guys don't understand that he knows which balls he can get and which he can't...he doesn't dive after those he knows he can't get,so what,not his fault at all,he has great positional awareness,unlike some of you experts...the Lazio goals were impossible for any human to get close...is this so hard to understand and see?!

yes he makes some mistakes but he makes more top saves that brought us CL! NOW BE HAPPY FOR ONCE YOU DICKHEADS!

bruh, you don't understand that Handanovic has this rather typical specific trait called "the mummy" that comes out once in a while. don't bullshit yourself. no one is saying he's a bad goalkeeper, they'd have too be crazy. I've always rated him world class, but no player is without faulty traits. When "the mummy strikes" we've been usually fucked, unless it was off target.

 

[thatdude]

Sorry but I'm not buying that he couldn't do more on Anderson's goal. I mean come on guy at least come out of the goal and try to close down the angle. Make him chip you or put him under pressure to take the shot quicker. He basically just made the decision easy for him.

I mean look, there are probably about 5 positions that we should look to upgrade before Handa but this guy ain't faultless. He is mentally as weak as the next guy. I think we should be looking for a new long term keeper potentially for a move next summer. Let him get his CL runout, he does deserve it.

 

[Anne Marie]

hmm, a man can be tired cant he? He is 34 years old, he performs every match (almost). And when UCL chance is visible, his teammates gave him what? A retard game vs Sassualo, then an early deflection. It seems like everything was against him, even Jesus Christ. It is a mental mini-breakdown, yes, but it does not justify a call for change.

 

[CoolMan44]

I agree he should have done better on the second goal. The shot was hard to save but he should have come out to cut the angle. At the same time, people blaming him for not moving on the first is overblown. That was such a wicked deflection that no goalkeeper could save or move for that.

He did have one big save on Milinkovic-Savic and did well to cut out a ball that Immobile almost put in.

He's been a bit weaker in the past few games though imo, other than the big save on Lasagna against Udinese.

 

[JJM]

He is top 5 GK's in the world

De Gea
Oblak
Neuer
City's GK
Handa

Get real guys

 

[brehme1989]

Alisson > Ederson. And Handanovic > Alisson. De Gea is seriously overrated, gets love for playing at Man Utd and being Spanish and a perennial Real Madrid target for that. Neuer is better than him and Oblak is also probably better. Handanovic has had better seasons with Inter than De Gea has had with Man Utd, yet people act as if one is Yashin and the other is Frey.

As for the 2nd goal or in general. Guys, come on. I know physics isn't that easy to understand, but it's easy to understand that people don't try to walk on water or drink benzene oil because they know that both cannot end well. There is absolutely no reason for Handanovic to jump just to "try". He knows when to try. He sees the ball, he sees the velocity, he sees the angle... you get to see 6 slow motion replays from every angle other than the GKs usually and think that it was savable or whatever. Do you know how tiring it is to stretch your body for a GK save when you also know there's no point in doing so?

There was no saving the 1st goal.

The second goal was tricky. It was a counter attack where two defensive players were close to the opponent just outside the area so there was no room for Handanovic to move up and make our goal look smaller. Felipe Anderson executed it almost right after picking up the pass and everyone who's played GK knows that a diagonal low shot at the bottom corner is one of the hardest to stop. It was an amazing shot, credit to Felipe. Handanovic was hoping that he would have at least dribbled with the ball a couple more meters to get to close him down but Felipe is a smart player and knew that he had to bury it.

Handanovic gets a solid 7 for me for yesterday's performance. Made 2 great saves, stopped a great shot by Milinkovic which he took right after outmuscling Skriniar outside the area and the force reminded that of Zlatan or Adriano and did everything possible in the 2nd half to defend the net.
Handanovic has the best GK awareness I've seen since Gianluca Pagliuca (he also was one of the best GK in reflexes). Julio Cesar was all about the reflexes and had rather bad positioning which he fixed later on (Buffon never fixed his positioning issues on the other hand) and Toldo was extremely big and agile which helped him, but his awareness wasn't sky high otherwise there'd be no room for the new kid with high reflexes to bench him.

He has at least another 3 years of top football imo.

edit: This is where the ball is when it's level with Handanovic.

So he not only has to jump 3 bodies to his bottom right, he also has to jump backwards to and make it 4 bodies in order to even touch the ball. Oh, and it had already bounced at that point.. Great shot.

 

[junior55]

As many said the GK position is the last one we should think about.
Buffon played until 40 with Juve and honestly its not that he has been perfect or anything.

Handa though has its flows and he has always had them. The most important defect he has it's that he plays like he's glued to the pitch. With the height and physical attributes he has , he should be owning his area way more than he does , but somehow he doesn't like going out of the goal line and this has proven to be a problem in many cases (think juve match for last) anyway unless we have an offer like 15M for him there is no reason to worry about a new GK.

After all the guy actually deserves to play the 1st CL match with this team more than anyone else after wasting the best years of his career going through the problems this club has had in the last years.

 

[Universe]

bruh, you don't understand that Handanovic has this rather typical specific trait called "the mummy" that comes out once in a while. don't bullshit yourself. no one is saying he's a bad goalkeeper, they'd have too be crazy. I've always rated him world class, but no player is without faulty traits. When "the mummy strikes" we've been usually fucked, unless it was off target.

Yea. JJM's typical head-in-ass analysis aside, Armes is 1000% correct.

It's disappointing that some overly 'left' opinions give rise to counter opinions that are overly 'right'. The Handanovic debate has gone a bit sour but I still like to think the general sensible opinion is that; amazing goalkeeper who sometimes just fucking freezes when he could do much. Look to the juve game. The first Douglas Costa goal was easily within arms reach. The second Cuadrado goal, even with a deflection, he should have done better on.

Don't question jjm tho. Dude used to be a serie F youth keeper

 

[Tanel]

I do have to put it on table as well that I have been a massive fan of his and considered him probably the best in Serie A for the 4-5 seasons after he joined us, but there is a lingering doubt inside me now that he has lost a bit of his sharpness and while not making any obvious blunders, has his odd moment of bad decisions and those ballwatching moments that a GK shouldn't have. I don't trust him fully anymore.

I do not think it is in any way easy to replace him, but what I do think we need to look at is what we did with Toldo that once there was a slight aura of decline around, we got him some good competition. There are plenty of top quality GK-s out there ready to prove themselves without asking for megawages, wouldn't hurt to look at guys like that rather than getting a clear second string GK like Padelli is.

 

[DARi0]

Grazie Handa for the save last evening. Luckily, SMS`s free kick hit the bar. Life is down to episodes, while episodes are decided by details.

Happy for Handa to finally play in UCL defending our colors

 

[JJM]

Yea. JJM's typical head-in-ass analysis aside, Armes is 1000% correct.

It's disappointing that some overly 'left' opinions give rise to counter opinions that are overly 'right'. The Handanovic debate has gone a bit sour but I still like to think the general sensible opinion is that; amazing goalkeeper who sometimes just fucking freezes when he could do much. Look to the juve game. The first Douglas Costa goal was easily within arms reach. The second Cuadrado goal, even with a deflection, he should have done better on.

Don't question jjm tho. Dude used to be a serie F youth keeper

Get a life...
I really won't bother with your 'uber alles' standards anymore

 

[francesco]

I blame perisic's face geometry for the first goal blivious:

 

[rfU]

Some of you are tripping we're lucky to have him

 

[wera]

Sorry but I'm not buying that he couldn't do more on Anderson's goal. I mean come on guy at least come out of the goal and try to close down the angle. Make him chip you or put him under pressure to take the shot quicker. He basically just made the decision easy for him.

I mean look, there are probably about 5 positions that we should look to upgrade before Handa but this guy ain't faultless. He is mentally as weak as the next guy. I think we should be looking for a new long term keeper potentially for a move next summer. Let him get his CL runout, he does deserve it.

Exactly what I feel.

Also he looks amazing when we defend deep, which also why we had a good record this year against our CL competition...

But positioning (also in positioning others) and sudden lapses in concentration are his big problems.

Yeah, I never believed we could reach CL this season. So now we did and we need him mentally ready for CL.

 

[JJM]

bruh, you don't understand that Handanovic has this rather typical specific trait called "the mummy" that comes out once in a while. don't bullshit yourself. no one is saying he's a bad goalkeeper, they'd have too be crazy. I've always rated him world class, but no player is without faulty traits. When "the mummy strikes" we've been usually fucked, unless it was off target.

yeah he is human he makes the occasional mistake sure...normal for humans right?

However he makes up for it because he saves us more times,way more times than he fucks up...that's why we are in CL...also thanks to him!

 

[Wobblz]

"Saves per goal" is especially telling.

 

[Shark]

edit: This is where the ball is when it's level with Handanovic.

So he not only has to jump 3 bodies to his bottom right, he also has to jump backwards to and make it 4 bodies in order to even touch the ball. Oh, and it had already bounced at that point.. Great shot.

I think everyone here has watched enough football to judge how a GK would in theory react to a shot like F. Anderson's. The shot wasn't from short distance, it wasn't deflected, it wasn't unexpected. An average goalkeeper would AT LEAST give it a go and dive for it.

And how tf are you counting 3 bodies? Are you using hobbits as the unit? You yourself have provided the evidence that the save was absolutely in reach with a normal jump. Also keep in mind, the keeper doesn't parry the ball with his head. He usually uses his hand with his arms streched out. He would have saved it comfortably.

I don't get why people here are outright lying just to fend off any criticism regarding Handanovic. He has saved our asses on countless occasions but when blunders are so evident it's stupid not to call it out.

 

[brehme1989]

A body is the width of man's body. You can dive at best 1.5 times your body in a lateral move, with extended arms that makes it x2. For some freakish GKs that could even be x2.5 due to their wingspan. I dare you to try it if you find this wrong.
Why do you think PKs at the bottom corner are unsavable?

Saying that he should have said that shot comfortably negates your opening statement about knowing how a GK can react. You still probably did not see the goal from the GKs view or the shooter's view, otherwise I'd suggest a visit to an optician.

 

[Starmo4]

All i know julio cesar tried and extend him self aganinst messi we all know the history . Point is to try not to calculate

 

[brehme1989]

All i know julio cesar tried and extend him self aganinst messi we all know the history . Point is to try not to calculate

how is that even something worth mentioning here? Messi's shot was going to the middle of the goal, slightly towards the right side of the keeper, and what made the save great was the fact that there were bodies in front of Cesar...