Romelu Lukaku

[Il Drago]

I'm sure if bayern were offered that much for him theyd take it in a heartbeat..

No, they wouldn't. That's not how Bayern operate. When they want to keep a player, there's no price that can convince them to sell. They sell only when they don't consider the player important for their plans and it's rarely for a high price. They don't care about making profits from the transfer market and that's because they don't want to be portrayed as a selling club.

 

[.h.]

After sleeping a night, I realized one thing. Of course we are not going to use all 130m€ to reinforce the squad. Owner wants to bank part of that.

So in management's perspective they are not selling Lukaku for 130m€, but for 100m€ or 80m€ or something like that because owner takes their cut. Meaning the deal is nothing like Zidane/Zlatan type of business where one big asset is changed to multiple new assets.

So saying 130m€ deal is reasonable, he's already 28, this is the last time we get this big offer for him (I've used all these arguments myself) is just false, it's lying to yourself saying that shit.

We ain't gonna use 130m€ on new players. Which effectively makes it a shitty deal. Marotta is forced to do this deal, they wouldn't sell Lukaku if it was up to them. Probably not even in a case they'd keep all the money (then it could make sense).

So yeah fuck Zhangs and their whole fucking family. I hope they end up to going bankruptcy with all their businesses.

cmon dude. No one expected all the money to be reinvested. I expect they'll take 20-30mil minimum for their pockets. But how much money is reinvested is irrelevant, its what we do with it. If we sign the next Lautaro, next Barella, next Bastoni and next Hakimi with the money for 10m each I promise you no one here will be complaining (for example).

Even when we sold Ibra, IIRC, we still banked some of that money.

 

[.h.]

No, they wouldn't. That's not how Bayern operate. When they want to keep a player, there's no price that can convince them to sell. They sell only when they don't consider the player important for their plans and it's rarely for a high price. They don't care about making profits from the transfer market and that's because they don't want to be portrayed as a selling club.

in fairness, bayern are a club who are still profitable and dont have the pressure to sell. But IIRC lewandowski has asked to move on at the end of next season, so its highly likely they will sell him, and no one is even going to pay half of 130m IMHO for him. We'll see next summer, but yeah.

 

[pazza moratti]

Yeah what is the point of comparing us to Bayern? They are financyally stable and we are not.

Anyway I will be happy if we sell him for good money and bring in some new players or I will be happy if we keep him!

But in reality we are not out of pandemic and our finance are at bad shape, so money is needed.

 

[.h.]

even if our finances were fine this would still be a good deal for us tbh.

 

[Choppin Onions]

If the deal does indeed go through for €120m or whatever the fuck it is, there’s no way Marotta has permission to spend more than half of that with the current financial difficulties. So we can probably rule out Vlahovic sadly. The stark reality is someone like Zapata and/or Belotti and then finalizing the deal for Nandez and possibly Bellerin. None of which is very inspiring tbh

 

[CafeCordoba]

even if our finances were fine this would still be a good deal for us tbh.

Yes because we could use all that money to reinforcements.

Now if we go from Lukaku to Zapata and that's it, how good is that? That's a fucking seppuku.

Also, browha, Lewandowski is 34 next summer. Wouldn't pay 30m€ for him next summer.

 

[Il Drago]

Replacing Lukaku with Zapata would be the equivalent of replacing Eto'o with Diego Forlan.

 

[.h.]

Yes because we could use all that money to reinforcements.

Now if we go from Lukaku to Zapata and that's it, how good is that? That's a fucking seppuku.

Also, browha, Lewandowski is 34 next summer. Wouldn't pay 30m€ for him next summer.

well exactly my point. Lewandowski is a long way from 130m - to the point at the start of this page. Bayern would snap someone's hand off for 130m for Lewandowski lol.


It all comes down to how much we reinvest, and who on. I'll admit Zapata/Correa dont exactly inspire me. Zapata might work as a stop gap, and let Lautaro blossom, but I dont understand Correa links. If the money is well spent, this is probably the transfer of the decade for Inter, tbh. 120m is the most expensive Serie A player in history (more than Pogba/Ronaldo/etc), gives us a huge amount of plusvalenza, and a lot of capital for us to reinvest.

Given the 'fixes' we're seeing in the club elsewhere (e.g. Nainggolan, JM, etc) this goes a long way to establishing the new baseline for our operations going forward. Remember, we're a sustainable business already once you offload the useles players like mentioned above - if season tickets are reimplemented at 100%. That means we've got a lot of opex we could reinvest into younger players.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Yes because we could use all that money to reinforcements.

Now if we go from Lukaku to Zapata and that's it, how good is that? That's a fucking seppuku.

Also, browha, Lewandowski is 34 next summer. Wouldn't pay 30m€ for him next summer.

You already think they will pocket the money, why dont you go a step further and assume no reinforcements will arrive and we will start next season with Sanchez-Lautaro duo? Don't be too dramatic mate.

If 130m from the sale means, 50-60m for Vlahovic, 15m for Kostic, 5m to finalize Nandez and then we would still have some leeway to extend Lautaro and Brozovic then start looking for Handa's replacement, e.g. Onana. Would you take it? The management would still pocket ~50m in this case.

 

[varmin]

There is another scenario which is much more worrying for me. Let's say that we keep Lukaku but have no money and do not renew Brozo and Lautaro's contracts. With no full attendance on the stadiums we'll suffer financial loses next season as well. Then Brozo will leave for free. We'll have to sell somebody to cover loses again but Lautaro with only a year left in his contract will fetch us no more than 30mln at most. No one will pay anything close to 100m for 29 years old Lukaku and we'll have to sell one amongst Barella, Bastoni or Skriniar. Then we'll need a replacement and one more for Brozovic + maybe one for Lautaro. But with no money we'll bring some free old farts or some cheap craps. The quality of the squad will rapidly decrease.
This is one of the worst scenarios out there but is quite possible. So the sale of Lukaku is not a such a disaster as some people are trying to make it.

 

[Il Drago]

Suning clearly aren't helping the situation, but a lack of income to sustain the club due to not owning our own stadium is definitely a contributing factor in us being a selling club. It is literally the only way forward. Or Serie A magically getting a EPL sized TV deal

While i generally agree with you a new stadium is crucial to achieve financial sustainability it wouldn't make a lot of difference in this situation. Stadiums have been empty for more than a year. Even Juve who own a stadium for years recorded big losses this year. The only reason we don't see them selling their best players, like we do, is because their owners injected money to the club while ours chose to liquidate our assets instead.

 

[.h.]

There is another scenario which is much more worrying for me. Let's say that we keep Lukaku but have no money and do not renew Brozo and Lautaro's contracts. With no full attendance on the stadiums we'll suffer financial loses next season as well. Then Brozo will leave for free. We'll have to sell somebody to cover loses again but Lautaro with only a year left in his contract will fetch us no more than 30mln at most. No one will pay anything close to 100m for 29 years old Lukaku and we'll have to sell one amongst Barella, Bastoni or Skriniar. Then we'll need a replacement and one more for Brozovic + maybe one for Lautaro.
This is one of the worst scenarios out there but is possible.

Indeed. Thats why I'm saying selling Lukaku is the right thing for us to do, in many ways. AT that valuation, not just in general.

In fairness, when was the last time a player left Inter on a Bosman? We even keep players we dont want, let alone the ones we want to keep.

The money from Lukaku will easily (obviously) give us good cover to renew Brozo and Lautaro - if they want to.

 

[.h.]

While i generally agree with you a new stadium is crucial to achieve financial sustainability it wouldn't make a lot of difference in this situation. Stadiums have been empty for more than a year. Even Juve who own a stadium for years recorded big losses this year. The only reason we don't see them selling their best players, like we do, is because their owners injected money to the club while ours chose to liquidate our assets instead.

Yeah. Juve have injected _400mil_ into their club in the last few weeks. FFP waived meant they could ddo that without concerns. Let's not forget Suning did >70mil debt to equity conversion this season already, and that was as of Jan. Elliott lost _200mil_ in 19/20 alone, we dont know what their 20/21 figures will be yet, but probably comparable.

In many ways, COVID has been great for clubs with wealthy owners - FFP being moved out means they can inject in all the cash they want.

 

[pazza moratti]

well exactly my point. Lewandowski is a long way from 130m - to the point at the start of this page. Bayern would snap someone's hand off for 130m for Lewandowski lol.


It all comes down to how much we reinvest, and who on. I'll admit Zapata/Correa dont exactly inspire me. Zapata might work as a stop gap, and let Lautaro blossom, but I dont understand Correa links. If the money is well spent, this is probably the transfer of the decade for Inter, tbh. 120m is the most expensive Serie A player in history (more than Pogba/Ronaldo/etc), gives us a huge amount of plusvalenza, and a lot of capital for us to reinvest.

Given the 'fixes' we're seeing in the club elsewhere (e.g. Nainggolan, JM, etc) this goes a long way to establishing the new baseline for our operations going forward. Remember, we're a sustainable business already once you offload the useles players like mentioned above - if season tickets are reimplemented at 100%. That means we've got a lot of opex we could reinvest into younger players.

Exactly this!!!

I would personally be happy if we get someone like Jovic on loan who Real dont want and maybe get Keita on loan if we get offer for Pinamonti?

Lautaro, Sanchez, Jovic, Keita/Satriano would be good enough. But mostly I would focus on wings and midfield quality and depth and renew our current core players like Barella, Brozovic, Lautaro…

 

[Pravesh]

That is a very good price but after losing Hakimi, I was not expecting this to happen right now. That being said, the rumoured amount seems to be huge for Lukaku. I was really hoping him to be with us mainly after Hakimi left.

It all depends on the replacement though and not only that, we should be able to sign a player or two more (RB, ??) coz now there would be no excuses. I am not expecting SMS kind of transfer for other positions either. I would just wait and see how the mercato goes until the wrap up before making any comments. Then, yeah, lets wait for another few months to see how our team performs.

Finally, after 11 years of wait, just when we had won, all these in combo package comes up step by step. Dejavu of 2010!! Lets hope for the best this time around though.

 

[.h.]

so 2010 is a super interesting analogy. On face value, I can see why you relate them, but under the hood:
* What we didnt do in 2010 was sell stars, even though they were unaffordable. We had good offers (maybe combined 100m for Maicon+Sneijder+Milito).
* That descended into a mad world of freezing them out/etc like Sneijder to force them to leave the club
* Players were extended when we couldnt afford them
* The only plusvalenza we had was Balotelli

I think now we've taken a completely different approach. We can argue whether its the right one or not, but its completely different to 2010:
* Recognition that we're on an unsustainable cost basis
* Taking plusvalenza at our pleasure - rather than being squeezed by clubs who know were desperate


There's a good chance we come out of this stronger as an all round team, given our current deficiencies at RWB/LWB/CM. But obviously that relies on us playing it well.

 

[bubba zanetti]

130m plus Alonso,I would sell him in a heartbeat. He is 28,he is always shit in big games,Cunte is gone,it would be extremely stupid not to sell him for this money.We can buy for 100m top striker and midfielder(or Rwb). We have Marotta,he can buy with that money miracles.Do it!

 

[nurko]

Sorry to say that but with 130+, selling him makes sense if we can invest more than half of that to fill the holes.

And I do not believe Marotta would splash 80m on Zapata and Correa.

 

[brehme1989]

No, they wouldn't. That's not how Bayern operate. When they want to keep a player, there's no price that can convince them to sell. They sell only when they don't consider the player important for their plans and it's rarely for a high price. They don't care about making profits from the transfer market and that's because they don't want to be portrayed as a selling club.

That used to be Inter until the 2010s :/