Roberto Mancini

[Stefan]

At arsenal wenger decides who gets bought and who gets sold at Inter. Moratti has the final say. Branca,Oriali and Mancini just advises him.

 

[lonewolf19]

At arsenal wenger decides who gets bought and who gets sold at Inter. Moratti has the final say. Branca,Oriali and Mancini just advises him.

and that shouldnt be the way... It should be Mancini in charge

 

[Stefan]

and that shouldnt be the way... It should be Mancini in charge

Why Moratti owns the club. He finances it so he should make the decision but with advice from his coach. It's not like in england were the manager is in charge of everything. In Italy mancini is just the coach he is in charge of the first team he isn't a manager.

 

[Forza ragazzi]

Once again my belief in Mancini is confirmed. Jimenez said this in an interview on inter.it:

What role has Roberto Mancini played in your improvement at Inter?
"A very important role. When I wasn't called up, he always spoke to me and gave the incentives I needed so I would not give up and always been ready."

Mancini is a great coach who has a great ability to keep "fringe" players motivated. We should be very pleased with him.

 

[M.Adnan]

We've been saying this for a long time: Mancini is a winner and he turned us into a winning team. It has nothing to do with Calciopoli, it was going to happen sooner or later. Calciopoli only made it sooner, but nothing else.

 

[cloudq]

We've been saying this for a long time: Mancini is a winner and he turned us into a winning team. It has nothing to do with Calciopoli, it was going to happen sooner or later. Calciopoli only made it sooner, but nothing else.

i dunno, vieira and ibra have been pretty influential

i also dont see us signing chivu if calciopoli didnt happen either

 

[Suneet]

Yeah but eventually the team is and was becoming stronger every year. Without Moggi's influence we can use the transfer market to upgrade our squad.

Just makes me feel bad for all the coaches we've had, they had to endure circumstances which were unfair.

 

[M.Adnan]

i dunno, vieira and ibra have been pretty influential

i also dont see us signing chivu if calciopoli didnt happen either

Vieira?

 

[Alex de Large]

of course we could not sign chivu, if moggi was there he would have made the typical move so he can't sign for inter, galliani tryed, but now that calcio is clean, didn't happen.
a lot of players did not sign with inter because of moggi, nesta and a lot of more.
rubentus will suck without him in the transfer market now, Tiago LOL, Almiron LOL, Iaquinta LOL. they are a lie of team, a true lie, it's true they have been doing good now, but it was only the surprise of the season, like last year palermo who was in CL spots all the first leg of championship.

 

[Cro Nerazzurro]

Sorry cro, your comparing a horse to a pony. Wenger has been in his job for 10 years if not more, Mancini is in his 4th year I think.

Arsenal never have pressure of winning everything, its a team which is always under construction. Wenger can never win 3 Premiership titles in a row. You cant temme that being manager of Arsenal has more pressure than Inter.

If Inter bought 15 amazingly talented youngsters and started playing in the Serie A, Mancio will be kicked out for ending 3rd in the league for 2 seasons running. However the players value will increase as they are all good talents so the club will make a profit in the long run.

Wenger's been manager of Japanese and French teams, Mancio has managed in perhaps the tougher leagues. Dont forget until the Roman revolution, the EPL had just 2 teams competing, not 5 as it is in Italy.

What more do you want?

Sorry too, but read this discussion a bit more cause I said like 10 times now, MANCINI CAN BE GREATER THEN ALL COACHES THERE ARE, but its still too early to say he is bigger then Alex and Arsene cause he is at his begining of something big.

This is like 5th time I need to quote myself, and its so boring to do over and over again.

And one more thing, in these 4 years Mancini is here Inter rivals for scudetto were Milan and Juve in first seasons, then we didnt win it.
When Juve got discovered Mancini got that Scudetto, Juve got relegated and Milan banned, so it was only Inter, or Roma who I never saw as serious trouble. Milan had minus points so it was obvious we are favorites and if we ddint win it Mancini would got sacked.

So I dont know where did you find 5 clubs fighting for Scudetto.

While in England It was Man U and arsenal, then Chelski too, and Liverpool as favorites that never prove it.

Cant convice me that you are just either Wenger haters, or Mancini lovers, cause not even one REALISTIC person, who watches football, will say mncini is bigger.
I bet my life on it.

 

[Suneet]

Wenger
Team From To Record G W L D Win %
Arsenal September 30, 1996 Present 622 354 112 156 56.91

Mancio

Team From To Record G W L D Win %
Internazionale July 1, 2004 Present 188 116 19 53 61.7


Offcourse Wenger has been in charge of Arsenal for a long time so his winning % will not be the best, but no coach in the Serie A can last 622 games considering he's won just 4 league titles in 12 seasons, Mancio(in his 4th or 5th season) has already won 2 real ones and one which was awarded to us. He's well on his way to a 4th one. Moreover you cant convince me that the EPL was very difficult in atleast 8 of those 12 seasons. He had quality players like Henry and Vieira at their peaks. Its stepped up another level only in the recent past. The Serie A was perhaps the best league in Europe then. I'm a Wenger hater, just because he has lots of 'fanboys'(not you).

The only thing where Wenger is greater is that he spots great young players. We might not agree but for me Mancio has survived under Calciopoli and in a much-much-much harsher environment where a coach like Wenger woudnt last for more than 1 season. In my eyes Mancini is bigger and better. Maybe I dont watch football, maybe I'm blinded by him, but winning at Inter and the pressure at Inter is far greater than at Arsenal. There is no point debating on it again and again, its just different points of view. I still love you, though .

I'm not comparing Alex as for me he's made most of the time where Wenger didnt and is perhaps on another level. I like his hard nosed attitude, no player is bigger than the team thinking, something Cuper had.

 

[cloudq]

Vieira?

not this season for obvious reasons

but he played a pretty damn big role in last seasons scudetto

noone can deny that

 

[Forza ragazzi]

Wenger
Team From To Record G W L D Win %
Arsenal September 30, 1996 Present 622 354 112 156 56.91

Mancio

Team From To Record G W L D Win %
Internazionale July 1, 2004 Present 188 116 19 53 61.7


Offcourse Wenger has been in charge of Arsenal for a long time so his winning % will not be the best, but no coach in the Serie A can last 622 games considering he's won just 4 league titles in 12 seasons, Mancio(in his 4th or 5th season) has already won 2 real ones and one which was awarded to us. He's well on his way to a 4th one. Moreover you cant convince me that the EPL was very difficult in atleast 8 of those 12 seasons. He had quality players like Henry and Vieira at their peaks. Its stepped up another level only in the recent past. The Serie A was perhaps the best league in Europe then. I'm a Wenger hater, just because he has lots of 'fanboys'(not you).

The only thing where Wenger is greater is that he spots great young players. We might not agree but for me Mancio has survived under Calciopoli and in a much-much-much harsher environment where a coach like Wenger woudnt last for more than 1 season. In my eyes Mancini is bigger and better. Maybe I dont watch football, maybe I'm blinded by him, but winning at Inter and the pressure at Inter is far greater than at Arsenal. There is no point debating on it again and again, its just different points of view. I still love you, though .

I'm not comparing Alex as for me he's made most of the time where Wenger didnt and is perhaps on another level. I like his hard nosed attitude, no player is bigger than the team thinking, something Cuper had.

For many years Serie A was dominated by the Big Seven. Inter, Fiorentina, Roma, Lazio, Juventus, Milan and Parma, I think it was. One season Udinese had a good year and it surprised everyone. PL has mostly been about ManU, Arsenal, Chelsea and Liverpool with a few one-year-wonders such as Leeds.

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

Only in England, can a manager win so less, and still be regarded as one of the best in the world.

If Wenger came to Madrid or Inter, started playing youngsters, and then told the boss, dont worry, I am grooming these youngsters, we'll be able to win the league after 3 years, he would get his a*ss fired with in minutes. Arsenal suits Wenger perfectly, he is working at a club, where expectations and pressure is not so high.
Wenger's CL record is also piss poor. Just 1 final in 10 years. We all say, we'll see how big of a coach Mancini really is in CL. Why dont we have the same criteria for Wenger? Arsenal usually have been much worse than us in CL.

 

[Suneet]

Lets me add another point of view, if Mancio fails this year in the CL his place will be on the line.

Wenger failed soo many times, he is still the coach of Arsenal.

 

[Cro Nerazzurro]

He had quality players like Henry and Vieira at their peaks. Its stepped up another level only in the recent past. The Serie A was perhaps the best league in Europe then. I'm a Wenger hater, just because he has lots of 'fanboys'(not you).

Henry and Vieira were bought by Wenger.
When Henry was just a good player at Juve playing as winger, and Vieira who was Milan player that never played.


Wenger can fail again, thats again one big thing about how great he is. And I dont believe in all those pressure sh!t, cause it all depends on club staff.
Arsenal knows Wenger is best there is, and the trust him, and know he will get to top.

U must be kidding if you think Ill dig that Italy has more then 3 or 4 seriosu tittle contenders. Most off all in this 4 years since Mancio is here.

He won one scudetto on green table, another one was while Juve were in seria b and milan with minus points.
He is on good way for one now, but still, Juve arent more serious ofr tittle them City is in England.

EPL is harder to win.
Lots of clubs have such a class players that can suprise any big team.
Just look at City, Villa, Portsmouth, spurs....
Not to mention they have two cups, one is so much more worth then Italian cup, and other one is something all clubs want too.
They have games every 3 days, while in Italy its not the case so offten. or at all.

 

[Suneet]

EPL is harder to win.
Lots of clubs have such a class players that can suprise any big team.
Just look at City, Villa, Portsmouth, spurs....
Not to mention they have two cups, one is so much more worth then Italian cup, and other one is something all clubs want too.
They have games every 3 days, while in Italy its not the case so offten. or at all.

Before 2004, was the EPL that hard to win? Its been like that only after Roman Abrahimovich. Now its very difficult and I dont think Wenger has won it(or anything else) for the last 4 years. When the going has been tough, he aint going.

 

[VLE]

EPL is harder to win.
Lots of clubs have such a class players that can suprise any big team.
Just look at City, Villa, Portsmouth, spurs....
Not to mention they have two cups, one is so much more worth then Italian cup, and other one is something all clubs want too.
They have games every 3 days, while in Italy its not the case so offten. or at all.

I'll have to disagree. I can't bring myself to believe Palermo, Napoli, Udinese are no match for those clubs. Even Sienna put a good fight against us (though we were sloppy) and they are on the relegation zone. They also have classy players like Amauri and Lavezzi.

On having 3 day schedule, I think that only makes bigger clubs easier to win league title. No small clubs will have enough depth to play them all. On the other hand, most of the clubs in serie A only concentrates on the league. Palermo(last year) and Fiorentina even ditched UEFA cup to play more competitively.

 

[Luka]

I want to say one thing.

Mancini got a "plus" or 2 for his decision of changing Maicon in the half-time against Siena.

If he won't play him in next 2-3 games he will get even more recognition from me.

Mancio has some bad sides, but he got this decision perfectly.

 

[M.Adnan]

He won one scudetto on green table, another one was while Juve were in seria b and milan with minus points.

Here we go again..

That minus points Milan (an average team btw) won the Champions League after beating Manchester Utd and Liverpool.

That says alot about how hard the EPL is.

Yet, Mancini owns BBilan, derby after derby.

Anyway, Liverpool are on the way, we'll see later.