Robert Acquafresca

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Haha...so you would rather have your favorite team look bad?? Cafe are you sure you are an Interista????

In this case actually yes. That way perhaps Inter could learn to trust on youngsters more. That is the way for more permanent success generally (not talking precisely this case).

In these kind of cases, I want Inter to look bad so that they can learn.
 

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That is a terrible, terrible theory....I know this is a crazy scenario that would never happen but just humor me...imagine Acquafresca gets loaned out to Barca or Man U and we meet them in the CL final...in your brain you actually would want Acquafresca to bag a hattrick and beat us 3-0 just to teach Inter a lesson!

IMO, the words "I want Inter to look bad" should never come out the mouth of an Interista...
 

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Opposite direction? I'll give a thumbsup (OK finger) to Inter management if Acqua fails to live up to his potential. But that can't be evaluated until after several years if he will become a regular scorer or not.
Exactly my point.

They could have kept their other hand on Acqua and give him a chance some day to prove himself in the big stage.
It sounds like it wouldn't cost us anything to do it :)

In fact, 50% of his card would be good 5-6 mln Euros, and what if his value will never be so high ? We will loose "only" couple of mil. But what a couple of mil for Moratti :)

What if our management assesed the player, and they made a right decision, in their opinion he won't become something big, and it will indeed happen ?

We will nothing gain from it? By giving him away now, for the high price he has ?

In here, it is like a mantra. Whenever we let go of a young player, it is like we were loosing a future superstar. The truth is, all the teams do, but it's not like all those teams let them go knowing what they will become. Nobody is that stupid.
 

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And your mantra here has been for quite some time already that no matter what Inter management do, it's correct and we can't criticize them because we don't know as much as them.

IMO no one can evaluate what Acquafresca will become at this moment. So to me it's incredibly stupid to let him go now.
 

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And your mantra here has been for quite some time already that no matter what Inter management do, it's correct and we can't criticize them because we don't know as much as them.
We can criticize, but in an inteligent way. Sometimes all I see is "Oh, they are so stupid", "Our board are idiots" etc. Obviously not in this exact way, but the message that posts send is close to this.

I never said, "oh this is a great job, lets ditch this Aqua!" Have you seen me saying this? That means, I'm not sure, and I leave some room

If it was only Inter who gave away those youngsters all the time I could be pissed. But Barca had Fabregas, Madrid had Etoo, Juve had Henry, Milan had... and so on, and so on. Those deals happen all the time, one player makes it, making the previous club to make a mistake, but 5, 10, 15 more doesn't. Yet it is only this one player that made it we talk about.

Inter gave away Emre. Many were unhappy. Where is he now? Was it a bad decision from a perspective of couple of years? But with Aqua, people already decides...

Do you see me being glad about Deco signing? If we would for example sign him and Carvalho, in direct exchange for Maicon, I would be first to criticise.

Whenever I feel like our transfers are not good enough, or "how bad we are", I look at Milan and Juve fans. Now THEY have a lot to complain about, and yet go to their boards and check them out. There was not as much complaining as here since Azzkikr left.

I can be called an easy person towards our management, I don't care. I rather be like that, than pretending, like a milion Euros either way doesn't matter to me.

As long as I don't feel like our board is lying to us in bright light, I won't criticise them like that. Obviously that's not all, but they have to get credit for it.

Can you say the same about Milan management, and Berlusconi?

IMO no one can evaluate what Acquafresca will become at this moment. So to me it's incredibly stupid to let him go now.
Because you're sitting right there without anything to loose. For Moratti it can be milions either way.
 

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We can criticize, but in an inteligent way. Sometimes all I see is "Oh, they are so stupid", "Our board are idiots" etc. Obviously not in this exact way, but the message that posts send is close to this.

I never said, "oh this is a great job, lets ditch this Aqua!" Have you seen me saying this? That means, I'm not sure, and I leave some room

If it was only Inter who gave away those youngsters all the time I could be pissed. But Barca had Fabregas, Madrid had Etoo, Juve had Henry, Milan had... and so on, and so on. Those deals happen all the time, one player makes it, making the previous club to make a mistake, but 5, 10, 15 more doesn't. Yet it is only this one player that made it we talk about.

Inter gave away Emre. Many were unhappy. Where is he now? Was it a bad decision from a perspective of couple of years? But with Aqua, people already decides...

Do you see me being glad about Deco signing? If we would for example sign him and Carvalho, in direct exchange for Maicon, I would be first to criticise.

Whenever I feel like our transfers are not good enough, or "how bad we are", I look at Milan and Juve fans. Now THEY have a lot to complain about, and yet go to their boards and check them out. There was not as much complaining as here since Azzkikr left.

I can be called an easy person towards our management, I don't care. I rather be like that, than pretending, like a milion Euros either way doesn't matter to me.

As long as I don't feel like our board is lying to us in bright light, I won't criticise them like that. Obviously that's not all, but they have to get credit for it.

Can you say the same about Milan management, and Berlusconi?


Because you're sitting right there without anything to loose. For Moratti it can be milions either way.
:star::star::star::star::star:

Well said, fully agreed to Luka.
 

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And your mantra here has been for quite some time already that no matter what Inter management do, it's correct and we can't criticize them because we don't know as much as them.

IMO no one can evaluate what Acquafresca will become at this moment. So to me it's incredibly stupid to let him go now.


If that was directed towards me, than I never said Inter management is always right...I just find it ridiculous that you sit there and hope that the Inter management will fail so that they will learn a lesson...what kidn of attitude is that?
 

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I don't we will ever see him play for us.

Again he attacked Inter for not believing in him and using him like a "postal package" by throwing him here and there.

He said that his move to Atalanta was agreed to allow him to get regular football because both Floccari and Crespo are in Genoa now.

http://www.tuttomercatoweb.com/inter/?action=read&idnotizia=6047
 

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It's very strange. Even Genoa don't want him really, that's why they let him go to a weaker team. So they rate the Floccari-Crespo-Palladino-Sculli lineup more than our beloved Robert.

Very very strange.

+ Genoa's objectives are much-much weaker than Inter's goals at every level, (serie a, CL, coppa)

+ Robert says he goes to Atalanta to play regularly. OK, that is believable. But in this case, WTH wanted he at Inter with such rivals like Ibra, Balotelli, Milito?????

Very strange, isn't it?
 

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My guess is it went like this:

Mourinho wanted Acquafresca, he said it during the season, he talked about him. But he also wanted Milito (or other starting striker), this become evident during the spring. Inter didn't have money to buy Milito outright and Acquafresca was the best bargaining chip Inter got. Then Mourinho had to choose do he want a starting striker or a striker prospect. He chose a starting striker, so Acquafresca had to go to finance that move.

To me this is a stupid policy since Milito ain't no Villa or Eto'o calibre of striker, in terms of quality and longevity. Those two are just examples of why such swap could be justified (Eto'o too expensive salary so no-go).

I believe this got nothing to do with Mourinho or someone evaluating that "nah, Acquafresca won't become a good scorer ever". This is just about money. And to me, Inter used stupidly their money in this case. Others can think whatever the fuck they want but this is my opinion.
 

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Why should we keep Aqua? To sit on the bench? Will he develop? No. Will he accept it? No.

He is not starting material in a team like Inter, even not in Genoa.
 

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We make an error if we looks only the age of both strikers and make differences by only this data.

Imo Acquafresca is an inzaghi type player who can score easy goals, Milito is much experienced and can perform better in much categories, Miliot is more a complete striker than Aqua.

And am i the only one who see a bit opposition in that way:

1, Aqua wanted to come to Inter
2, He wants too play regularly

They exclude each other imo.
 

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If that was directed towards me, than I never said Inter management is always right...I just find it ridiculous that you sit there and hope that the Inter management will fail so that they will learn a lesson...what kidn of attitude is that?

So that we'll make mistakes and learn from them but we're stupid enough to learn any lessons from this whatsoever. :stuckup:

P.S If someone wants his Inter's approach towards youngsters change for the better than he isn't an Interista? :howler:
 

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So that we'll make mistakes and learn from them.
God, another one.

Why do you think we're making a mistake? He is going to Atalanta. Genoa management didn't rate him enough to guarantee him first team spot.

Isn't that, lets for the sake of it, say there is even 0,1% chance he will fail ?

If it is a mistake or not, we will find out in couple of years, or even longer, if it is Toni case. But do we wait 6 years for him to show some fruits? I guess Recoba "fans" would have something to say here :]

P.S If someone wants his Inter's approach towards youngsters change for the better than he isn't an Interista? :howler:
(If this scenario will turn out to be true), remind me when was the last time, Inter took 3-4 players from Primavera into the first team. I'm waiting.

And am i the only one who see a bit opposition in that way:

1, Aqua wanted to come to Inter
2, He wants too play regularly

They exclude each other imo.
Every inteligent person sees that. Too bad not everybody can think outside of the box from time to time.

My guess is it went like this:

Mourinho wanted Acquafresca, he said it during the season, he talked about him. But he also wanted Milito (or other starting striker), this become evident during the spring. Inter didn't have money to buy Milito outright and Acquafresca was the best bargaining chip Inter got. Then Mourinho had to choose do he want a starting striker or a striker prospect. He chose a starting striker, so Acquafresca had to go to finance that move.
That's a very good start. If we would gather all the circumstances, I think people would change their mind on this transfer.

First, we have to acknoledge, there is a lot more risk to count on Aquafresca, that he will become stronger, than on Milito. Milito is already proven in Italy, he played for better team, he played in Spain with success. Aquafresca is a good prospect, that's it.

Second, we have to take into acount what Aqua wants. If we would know for a FACT that Aqua said he wants a starting spot at Inter, or play regularly, not as a back up, or 4th 5th choice striker, people would still like to take Aqua? And it isn't such a distant view, because we know Aqua wants to play regularly, and both he, and his agent said so. Inter couldn't agree to this from obvious reasons, and now Aqua is bitter.

Third, what if Jose and other people deciding, evaluated, and put their cards more on Destro, than on Aqua? Couldn't be like that?

And I just scratched the surface.

I believe this got nothing to do with Mourinho or someone evaluating that "nah, Acquafresca won't become a good scorer ever". This is just about money. And to me, Inter used stupidly their money in this case. Others can think whatever the fuck they want but this is my opinion.
Who would you buy instead of Milito? If we had to pay 10 mln for Milito(I don't know exact figure, but something close to that) including Aqua part of the deal, if we would keep 50%, 5 mln, out of this deal would have to be taken away. That leaves 5 mil. For the sake of it, lets make it even 10 mln. What striker that is worth 10 mil will you recomend us to buy ?
 

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God, Luka it's not even worth it...we have frickin professional scouts and team representatives in this forum...I wonder how they have so much time to post, shouldn't they be out trying to find Inter's next star??
 

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I hope we won't regret it.

No matter what, I think it's insane not to keep any of his rights.
 

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Ya he's so good he will be playing with Atalanta next year!!! We have 2 players that start for us brought up through the same system that are 3 years younger than him...I'm pretty sure our staff knows which guys to keep...
 
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