Radja Nainggolan

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We gonna take heavy losses in this deal and Marotta is the one who cooked this whole shitshow by forcing him out last summer. That's the truth.

He should have cleaned his own mess better but couldn't do it and now here we are, tomorrow in the deadline day making an awful deal to sell this guy.

Also, no one will leave feeling sorry for this sale.

Let's assume that Marotta has all blame pushing Perisic and 9n last season out. But this season both of them have returned and it looks like Perisic will stay but Nainggolan not. Is this again Marotta's fault? I doubt it. It's more on 9n than anybody else. Sorry but as far as remember he said that he wants to come back and fight for the starter spot. I didn't see anything like that till now. For me, he looks like a player who doesn't care at all just like he did at the beginning of his first season here.
The main problem is not Marotta but is that we made an awful deal, getting a declining and not motivated player in exchange for a promising young player and a couple of millions. Even when Marotta tried to get rid of him last summer, there was no significant offer as all top clubs saw that this guy is almost done and does not worth the investment.
 

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Conte prob told him he is like the 90th choice?
 

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Let's assume that Marotta has all blame pushing Perisic and 9n last season out. But this season both of them have returned and it looks like Perisic will stay but Nainggolan not. Is this again Marotta's fault? I doubt it. It's more on 9n than anybody else. Sorry but as far as remember he said that he wants to come back and fight for the starter spot. I didn't see anything like that till now. For me, he looks like a player who doesn't care at all just like he did at the beginning of his first season here.
The main problem is not Marotta but is that we made an awful deal, getting a declining and not motivated player in exchange for a promising young player and a couple of millions. Even when Marotta tried to get rid of him last summer, there was no significant offer as all top clubs saw that this guy is almost done and does not worth the investment.

Nainggolan was pushed out last summer, not equivalent of Perisic who wanted to leave the club already in winter at the same year. If you push player out like that, it will have consequences like the player not giving a shit anymore about that club who pushes him out. They are people after all, not some robots even if it's easy to talk like that in the forum.

Marotta created the issue and now he's cleaning the mess, quite horribly though financially wise for the club.
 

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Nainggolan was pushed out last summer, not equivalent of Perisic who wanted to leave the club already in winter at the same year. If you push player out like that, it will have consequences like the player not giving a shit anymore about that club who pushes him out. They are people after all, not some robots even if it's easy to talk like that in the forum.

Marotta created the issue and now he's cleaning the mess, quite horribly though financially wise for the club.

Huh... this again :palm:

Radja had nothing to do with Inter to push him out and it was all just Marotta is an idiot?

This was reported December 23 2018

”In a shock announcement, Inter confirmed Radja Nainggolan has been “suspended from football activity for disciplinary reasons.”

“FC Internazionale Milano can confirm that Radja Nainggolan has been temporarily suspended from football activity for disciplinary reasons.”

It's reported he turned up late to training this morning, as he already had done several times this week.

This is a strong statement from Inter, because it means he'll be left out of the squad for the Boxing Day showdown with second-placed Napoli.”

I think many here have dementia or something...
 

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Did I say Nainggolan had nothing to do with it? No, I didn't say so. Did I say Marotta is an idiot? No, I did not say so.

The thing here is, Marotta is in charge, he makes the decisions. Nainggolan is his employee. Marotta made a decision regarding Nainggolan, ie. cooked this mess. Nainggolan did what he did. It's in the past. Then it's up to Marotta to decide what to do. And what will ensue after that. Now we've seen what has ensued after his decision. Nainggolan is just an object in this matter, Marotta is the subject.

We can here blame the players all we want but they are not responsible for keeping the club on track. It's CEO's task. But it is surely easier to just blame the bhenchod player.

It's hard for me to explain in English why it's so clear player is not equivalent party in these cases and it's the management which do decisions and there are consequences of those decisions.
 

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Latest is there are still distance between Inter and Cagliari over the price. Let's see how blinks first.
 

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Did I say Nainggolan had nothing to do with it? No, I didn't say so. Did I say Marotta is an idiot? No, I did not say so.

The thing here is, Marotta is in charge, he makes the decisions. Nainggolan is his employee. Marotta made a decision regarding Nainggolan, ie. cooked this mess. Nainggolan did what he did. It's in the past. Then it's up to Marotta to decide what to do. And what will ensue after that. Now we've seen what has ensued after his decision. Nainggolan is just an object in this matter, Marotta is the subject.

We can here blame the players all we want but they are not responsible for keeping the club on track. It's CEO's task. But it is surely easier to just blame the bhenchod player.

It's hard for me to explain in English why it's so clear player is not equivalent party in these cases and it's the management which do decisions and there are consequences of those decisions.

”Marotta made a decision regarding Nainggolan, ie. cooked this mess.” What...

Again ”It's reported he turned up late to training, as he already had done several times in a week”.

So Radja was the guy who cooked this mess, not Marotta! He (Marotta)had to take action for good of Inter/rest of the team!

We also did have Icardians and Perisic to fuck with Inter and it was a shitshow! We needed to take controll back from these asholes and show rest of the group what hapens if you dont bahave!

Thank god we now have Marotta and we are finally right paht to building solid fodation to succes!
 

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I don't know what happen, but everyone know Gagliardini now 2nd choice midfielder. Conte even rate him above Barella.

Gagliardini already get two start this season. If FIF reacted like that, imagine how Radja reacted about this.

Gagliardini start against Lazio, when you had Sensi, Eriksen and Brozovic. :epicwin:

Even in Fifa, FM, and PES it's unreal.

It's just my guess, but if Nainggolan told by Conte you play 15 minutes against Fiorentina,and Gagliardini play as starter against Benevento and Lazio. He must be pissed off.
 

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Sport italia - Hertha Berlin offering 10M for Nainggolan
 

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Did I say Nainggolan had nothing to do with it? No, I didn't say so. Did I say Marotta is an idiot? No, I did not say so.

The thing here is, Marotta is in charge, he makes the decisions. Nainggolan is his employee. Marotta made a decision regarding Nainggolan, ie. cooked this mess. Nainggolan did what he did. It's in the past. Then it's up to Marotta to decide what to do. And what will ensue after that. Now we've seen what has ensued after his decision. Nainggolan is just an object in this matter, Marotta is the subject.

We can here blame the players all we want but they are not responsible for keeping the club on track. It's CEO's task. But it is surely easier to just blame the bhenchod player.

It's hard for me to explain in English why it's so clear player is not equivalent party in these cases and it's the management which do decisions and there are consequences of those decisions.

I don't get how better could have done it Marotta? Тhe only other solution was to keep him here but how this could have faciliated his sale?
As i said before the other clubs realized that he is declining player, who is a chain smoker with fat wage bill and disciplinary issues. Even when Marotta clearly indicated that 9n is on the market, there was not even a single offer for him. Any club could have gotten him at a favorable price but only Calgari came up. That speaks enough. And let's make this clear - it's not Marotta to blame for his behaviour's problems. 9n started with this shitshow from the moment he came here.
Аnd i will ask once again, why he doesn't want to stay here current season? There were enough rumors that Conte is willing to rehabilitate Perisic and him in the team and as we saw, the former is already there. Nainggolan just doesn't want to stay here, that is how i get this whole situation. This season nobody forces him out.
Similar situation with Godin. People here were crying that Marotta pushed him toward the exit and Godin just said that he had a chat with COnte and afterwards he WANTED TO BE SOLD. It's his decision.
 

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Lol, Conte's first words were that Icardi and Nainggolan are cut from the team as per the management's decision and you wonder how much better it could have been done?

And who says that Radja had to be sold? We did not conclude this deal to make a future sale, that's not how we operate. We bought him to use him. He'd be our best midfielder last season, so fucking use him rather than pay him to play elsewhere and score against you!
 

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Get him motivated now. Come on Conte, use the international break for this. Radja can be our big weapon this season.
 

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So he ends up staying, literally a day after Marotta said "we can never keep a player who wants to go." We have some genius strategicians at work.
 

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Interesting what's gonna happen with this dude now. Can we get the beast out of him? Hardly, but hopefully even a serviceable player. Conte won't use Nainggolan at all if he doesn't put up work in the trainings. And if he lets Radja to enter the pitch, Radja better work his ass off there.

But if Nainggolan tries even a little, he's already a better player than Gagliardini for instance. In most of the matches we need more Radja than Gagliardini (I'm not even sure when we should need Gagliardini, not against lazios at least).
 

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So he ends up staying, literally a day after Marotta said "we can never keep a player who wants to go." We have some genius strategicians at work.

I believe it was Zhang who blocked the deal. At a point he probably said enough is enough with Cagliari. If they want the player, they need to pay.
 

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There was some notoriety about Radja's poker debt in Italian media.
 

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Well, he'll just sit till January and then after no one buys him, he'll sit till the end of the season and then we'll Asamoah him.
 
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