PC gaming

[wera]

Next year is Witcher 3 year. I don't think I need any other game than that.

 

[nurko]

Anyone got experience with ASUS laptops ?

Reason I'm asking is because I've got an option that someone buys me the laptop in US in January so I get to avoid all the taxes and actually get it for the price paid overthere instead of 40% more in Bosnia.
I am about to make the decision in the next 2-3 days and I'm stuck between HP Envy 15t-j100 touchsmart and ASUS N550JV
Here are the specs (HP left, ASUS right)

i7 4700 MQ === i7 4700HQ
nVidia GT740M 2gb === nVidia GT750M 2gb
Full HD touchscreen glossy for both (although reviews claim ASUS's is better)
Aluminum& plastic build === fully aluminum build
1 TB HDD with SSD cache === 1 TB HDD
16 GB RAM === 16GB RAM (might optionally choose 1x8GB, have to figure out if 16 is an overkill)


I have a great experience with HP (have a ProBook 4700s for almost 5 years now, and other stuff also) while I have never had ASUS laptop.
Reason why I'm inclined now to ASUS is the aluminum build, HPs screen lid is made from a thin plastic and that makes me worried because I would be poking it a lot with my fingers as it is a touchscreen.
Also many reviews claim ASUS is significantly better when it comes to high-performance stuff (gaming etc)


Any recommendations, advices, ideas ? ? ?

 

[Pajo]

Dat config :notbad:

I have used DELL and Acer, so can't really help you. I've heard mixed reaction from ASUS users, so it's not really going to be helpful. A cousin of mine got ASUS few years ago, got broken in a month. A guy from my neighborhood tho, brought it to me to fix it (software wise), he had it for 4 years, it looked like new. And he used it for gaming and was always having it with him. Didn't even warm up.

I'd say get it, you can't make mistake with that config

 

[nurko]

Dat config :notbad:

I have used DELL and Acer, so can't really help you. I've heard mixed reaction from ASUS users, so it's not really going to be helpful. A cousin of mine got ASUS few years ago, got broken in a month. A guy from my neighborhood tho, brought it to me to fix it (software wise), he had it for 4 years, it looked like new. And he used it for gaming and was always having it with him. Didn't even warm up.

I'd say get it, you can't make mistake with that config

Probably going with ASUS, hopefully not a mistake.
Specs wise, laptops are very simillar but reviews often rate ASUS better, and plus I am really worried about the display on HP. I've seen a video where user presses display lid on the back with his finger and causes significant distortion on the display... that got me worried how long would it last when carried around with other stuff....

 

[Pajo]

Cant you go to some IT story or somehting, and try to find similar HP and ASUS (for the displays) and see it for yourself?

 

[nurko]

Cant you go to some IT story or somehting, and try to find similar HP and ASUS (for the displays) and see it for yourself?

Nah, I contacted several shops/distributers here and they all said something along these lines:

"We can order this configuration and it will cost you this much, generally we don't have this stuff in our sale because no one wants/asks_for as strong specs as these. People who want these usually buy them outside of Bosnia..."

As for ordering it here, price in US is generally about $1100 which comes to 1500-1600KM, and if I ordered something like these here through shops/distributers it costs around 2300KM ....taxes and stuff.

 

[Pajo]

Well i didn't mean EXACTLY those configs, only the type of laptops, with that type of screen and all... Just to compare.

 

[nurko]

Well i didn't mean EXACTLY those configs, only the type of laptops, with that type of screen and all... Just to compare.

Nothing similar, basically right now there is no HP or ASUS touchscreen in Tuzla (where I live) to be bought today, so if I wanted to test it, I would either have to order it, or possibly go to Belgrade where I know for sure there is both Hp Envy 17t and ASUS N550JV.
Other shops in Bosnia don't show they have it on their websites...

 

[chipschups]

well in my country ASUS always give a double warranty,,
so I always recommend to buy ASUS if you need a choose between two,,

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

Anyone got experience with ASUS laptops ?

Reason I'm asking is because I've got an option that someone buys me the laptop in US in January so I get to avoid all the taxes and actually get it for the price paid overthere instead of 40% more in Bosnia.
I am about to make the decision in the next 2-3 days and I'm stuck between HP Envy 15t-j100 touchsmart and ASUS N550JV
Here are the specs (HP left, ASUS right)

i7 4700 MQ === i7 4700HQ
nVidia GT740M 2gb === nVidia GT750M 2gb
Full HD touchscreen glossy for both (although reviews claim ASUS's is better)
Aluminum& plastic build === fully aluminum build
1 TB HDD with SSD cache === 1 TB HDD
16 GB RAM === 16GB RAM (might optionally choose 1x8GB, have to figure out if 16 is an overkill)


I have a great experience with HP (have a ProBook 4700s for almost 5 years now, and other stuff also) while I have never had ASUS laptop.
Reason why I'm inclined now to ASUS is the aluminum build, HPs screen lid is made from a thin plastic and that makes me worried because I would be poking it a lot with my fingers as it is a touchscreen.
Also many reviews claim ASUS is significantly better when it comes to high-performance stuff (gaming etc)


Any recommendations, advices, ideas ? ? ?

CPU : Actually 4700HQ's performance is almost the same as 4700MQ (on paper). In fact, 4700HQ isn't effective as 4700MQ when you open TurboBoost. However 4700HQ supports VT-d (only useful for virtual machine). If you aim for gaming, 4700MQ > 4700HQ (not much). If you work with virtual machine, choose 4700HQ.
GPU : GT750 (well, if only ASUS use GDDR5 version it could be better, but GDDR3 is good enough for me) is much better than GT740M (especially HP use weaker version of GT740M with 64-bit memory interface instead of 128-bit by default)
Display : ASUS uses IPS panel from LG, has much better view angle and color than HP Envy (cheap TN panel ). ASUS is better unless you want touch display.
Speaker : ASUS N series has one of the best speaker systems in laptop.
Storage : HDD with SSD cache is slightly better, but with 24GB you can only see faster boot speed, not enough for regular applications. So I think SSD cache is not important. HP Envy has mSATA port, ASUS N series doesn't (you can add another SSD and use it like a cache, with ASUS you'll have to find standard 2.5" SATA drive)
Connect: HP Envy has 1 more USB 3.0 port, meanwhile ASUS N550jv doesn't even have VGA port (which is stupid since my university's still using old projector )
Temp : ASUS N550jv is cooler than HP Envy.
Design : Fully aluminum build > Aluminum& plastic build.
Battery : ASUS sucks, and you can't replace your battery HP is better.

I'll choose ASUS N550jv. HP Envy was great in the past, but now HP managed to turn it to another cheap series.

Best multimedia laptop now is Dell Studio XPS (newest version, last version is just ) : CPU Intel 4702HQ (better than both 4700MQ/HQ), GPU nVidia GT750 (GDDR5 version, better than ASUS with GDDR3), better display (panel from Sharp with highest resolution on laptop atm, however Windows 8/8.1 still doesn't support high resolution (>1080p) very well), better battery ; and Apple MacBook Pro Retina. But both are overpriced as fuck.

 

[Pajo]

Damn, that sucks...

Well then, you'd have to believe the reviewers

 

[Pajo]

CPU : Actually 4700HQ's performance is almost the same as 4700MQ (on paper). In fact, 4700HQ isn't effective as 4700MQ when you open TurboBoost. However 4700HQ supports VT-d (only useful for virtual machine). If you aim for gaming, 4700MQ > 4700HQ (not much). If you work with virtual machine, choose 4700HQ.
GPU : GT750 (well, if only ASUS use GDDR5 version it could be better, but GDDR3 is good enough for me) is much better than GT740M (especially HP use weaker version of GT740M with 64-bit memory interface instead of 128-bit by default)
Display : ASUS uses IPS panel from LG, has much better view angle and color than HP Envy (cheap TN panel ). ASUS is better unless you want touch display.
Speaker : ASUS N series has one of the best speaker systems in laptop.
Storage : HDD with SSD cache is slightly better, but with 24GB you can only see faster boot speed, not enough for regular applications. So I think SSD cache is not important. HP Envy has mSATA port, ASUS N series doesn't (you can add another SSD and use it like a cache, with ASUS you'll have to find standard 2.5" drive)
Connect: HP Envy has 1 more USB 3.0 port, meanwhile ASUS N550jv doesn't even have VGA port (which is stupid since my university's still using old projector )
Temp : ASUS N550jv is cooler than HP Envy.
Design : Fully aluminum build > Aluminum& plastic build.
Battery : ASUS sucks, and you can't replace your battery HP is better.

I'll choose ASUS N550jv. HP Envy was great in the past, but now HP managed to turn it to another cheap series.

Best multimedia laptop now is Dell Studio XPS (newest version, last version is just ) : CPU Intel 4702HQ (better than both 4700MQ/HQ), GPU nVidia GT750 (GDDR5 version, better than ASUS with GDDR3), better display (panel from Sharp with highest resolution on laptop atm, however Windows 8/8.1 still doesn't support high resolution (>1080p) very well), better battery ; and Apple MacBook Pro Retina. But both are overpriced as fuck.

Fucking Japs...:fuckyea:

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

I heard HP has one model (HP Envy) which preconfigured with GT750M (only for European market). Maybe you should contact their supporters for more information. But I still recommend ASUS N550jv.

If you have enough money, you should replace your HDD with SSD drive (not the one using for caching), it'll give you much better experience. Samsung EVO series is the cheapest solution atm, but it stucks with Samsung so-called TLC (faster than MLC but less reliable).

 

[nurko]

First of all, thanks a lot!


HP Envy 17t has GT750M but I'm not inclined to 17'' display this time.
I am looking for a touchscreen regarding the remark in your reply and afaik there's couple of options for N550JV when it comes to battery but that is way down the order of importance for me..
As for the extra SSD, I've seen the option for ASUS to replace optical drive with additional hdd and I like it for future usages but can't afford it right now.

Overall, I'm much closer to choosing ASUS N550JV now.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

yeah, I can't understand why ASUS still try to include optical drive in their laptops it's unnecesary and make the laptop heavier. We can easily find faster external optical drive when we need.

If you want to add extra HDD/SSD, you could try this one : http://hddcaddy.com/en/asus-hdd-caddy/415-asus-n550-n550jv-hdd-caddy.html

oh, and sorry for my mistake about touchscreen. I thought you talked about ASUS N550jv without touchscreen. But I'm sure they still use IPS panel for the touchscreen version, so it's display is much better than HP Envy.

And you can configure your ASUS laptop if you buy it on Computer Upgrade King (not sure if they have best price or not).

Fucking Japs...:fuckyea:

I'm just half Japanese, and I don't even live in Japan atm

 

[nurko]

yeah, I can't understand why ASUS still try to include optical drive in their laptops it's unnecesary and make the laptop heavier. We can easily find faster external optical drive when we need.

If you want to add extra HDD/SSD, you could try this one : http://hddcaddy.com/en/asus-hdd-caddy/415-asus-n550-n550jv-hdd-caddy.html

oh, and sorry for my mistake about touchscreen. I thought you talked about ASUS N550jv without touchscreen. But I'm sure they still use IPS panel for the touchscreen version, so it's display is much better than HP Envy.

And you can configure your ASUS laptop if you buy it on Computer Upgrade King (not sure if they have best price or not).


I'm just half Japanese, and I don't even live in Japan atm

Would love to visit Japan one day... it's just one of those things you would wish to see for yourself.

It's fairly simple to add extra hdd in it (at least it looks so in the video I've seen), just needs to wait a bit for money when it comes to that feature.
Do you consider Computer Upgrade King a good reliable online shop ? (haven't decided where to buy it either, difference of 50$ is not an issue if I know it's a solid seller) ????

Btw it's IPS for touchscreen too.

 

[Ffi201zi002tlis]

I bought mine from Amazon (my cousin lives in the U.S.) and it configured by Computer Upgrade King. I'm not sure about them (cause I didn't buy directly from their site) but some ASUS preconfigured laptops on Amazon come from them, so I think they're quite reliable. Maybe you should ask someone from U.S who bought directly from their sites instead of Amazon.

 

[nurko]

Alright, thanks for all the info...I'll be ordering it in the next couple of days and then comes a painful wait 'til end of January

 

[Scottish_one]

Any one got or played BF4?

whats it like in comparison to BF2 which was awesome in its day?

also anyone that plays Diablo 3 can add me on punj#2845 or on steam at punj89

 

[Tsuna]

Left4Dead2 free on steam next 6.25 hrs