Mercato Team (Ausilio, Marotta, & Co.) and Strategies

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Barella,Torreira, Cristante,Chiesa(they are nor for sale in the winter window for sure)

Would be cool if we can get some of them in the summer...

Borja is in fact 33 old
Gagsy boy is in shit form now...I'm worried
Vecino is ok...Brozo can improve
Mario is not a Spallo type of mf player sadly

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Agree on the first two (either of) but not too fond of the other two at the time being. Would prefer someone more established if we are to make such big cash transfers.

Priority has to be Milinkovic-Savic, a center back whose contract is expiring (Gimenez/de Vrij) and a big name like Alexis Sanchez. If we end up with Torreira or Barella I wouldn't complain but we need to make some serious improvements. I see people talk about followers on media and shit. That's an aftermath of the new generation that doesn't really watch football but only plays video games like FIFA (that are quite bad at describing player value and just form a vicious cycle). So we need players that FIFA rates if you want to improve our social media side. And we need to target those who can actually improve us :D
 

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milinkovic savic would be faptastic.. sell gagliardini and mario and brozo and whoever you want just bring this kid here.. no falcao law no homo.. tnx
 

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Savic reminds me on Dejan a little bit but there is still long way to go.

NT manager put him out from some reason (probably behavior), also there is a video from two or three weeks ago where he speaks with Lulic after half time where he's saying "he's not normal" or something like that. Probably alluding to the coach after his halftime talk. I am assuming that because they stopped talking when Inzaghi was passing by.

We should be careful because Lotito will ask tones of money for him (probably over 55 millions) and if he have a holes in his character that be very bad for us.
 

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Serg is incredibly overhyped, overrated, overpriced....all of the above. Good/nice player, but at the kind of prices being discussed, I'd rather get an already world class or near world class 26-30yr old who offers more guarantees and 3-4 years of performance. People get too caught up in price for resale, vs price for performance.

I have no idea if serg will end up being like ilicic; lots of skill and talent but no idea why they didn't go up a level.
 

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Milinkovic-Savic is one of the best prospect out there. But tbh it is the same as Pogba hype. Sure SMS has some skills on his sleeves. Physical presence, Good header, Decent Shoot and finishing, all attributes to success as Goalscoring-miedfielder. But the problem here is Lotito asking price. I think the logic price for current SMS around 40-60 millions. If we want any player from Lazio Luis Alberto he is. I think he can slot AM so well and has lower asking price compare to SMS.
The ideal scenario is to get one of Torreira or Barella. This two players has something reminds me of Pirlo or for the lower comparison young Borja. A 'small' deep-lying playmaker that can dictates our play ala Jorginho. Plus if we have the money, we must target someone like Vidal, Ninja, or Fekir as our 'star' player.
 

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Am I the only one not that excited about Gimenez? I would not take him over Skriniar nor over a 33-year old Miranda. I think Simeone originally wanted Gimenez to replace Miranda, but it has not worked out. I actually rate L. Hernandez as a bigger prospect. Gimenez reminds me of a Murillo style defender (Except defender). He's very prone to brain-farts and making incredibly stupid fouls. Obviously on a free it's a different story and given Miranda is aging, it's a good option. I just don't rate him that high currently.
 

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Milinkovic-Savic is one of the best prospect out there. But tbh it is the same as Pogba hype. Sure SMS has some skills on his sleeves. Physical presence, Good header, Decent Shoot and finishing, all attributes to success as Goalscoring-miedfielder. But the problem here is Lotito asking price. I think the logic price for current SMS around 40-60 millions. If we want any player from Lazio Luis Alberto he is. I think he can slot AM so well and has lower asking price compare to SMS.
The ideal scenario is to get one of Torreira or Barella. This two players has something reminds me of Pirlo or for the lower comparison young Borja. A 'small' deep-lying playmaker that can dictates our play ala Jorginho. Plus if we have the money, we must target someone like Vidal, Ninja, or Fekir as our 'star' player.

Luis Alberto is destined to sit on our bench and rip our transfer budget apart. Absolutely nothing to like about that player other than he's a decent rotation player at best.
I agree on the 'dilemma' between the two DMs.


@nerazzuri4life: Milinkovic-Savic is not overrated at all and I don't see any hype anywhere, only a select few on this page are drooling over him and there's basically no coverage on him around the world otherwise he'd be coveted by crap teams with big wallters like Liverpool and Arsenal and we'd see daily reports until he gets a transfer from Lazio. Overpriced is subjective. I've seen Danny Drinkwater and Oxlade-Chamberlain transfer for around 40 million euros. Milinkovic-Savic should be going 400m if that's the benchmark. Zappacosta was sent to Chelsea along with 25m. SMS should be going 75m if that's the market value. Ousmane Dembele was transfered for 110m euros. SMS should be higher than that. Sigurdson moved to Everton for 50m euros. SMS should be going 100m. Paulinho 40m, SMS should be going 80m. Kyle Walker and Mendy moved to City for like 60m euros each, SMS should be going for 100m. Arnautovic was a 30m transfer, should I make a comparison here as well?
Pogba went for 100m. SMS is in no way an inferior player to Pogba when he was transferred. The main difference is that if Lazio fail to make CL they will probably need the money, so getting him for 60m or 80m should be possible. And given the state the market is in, that's not overpriced, that's well worth the money. I still feel that giving them Eder + $$$ is the way to go.
 

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Eder is the only sub striker, unless Pinamonti is used as the sub.
 

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I think Eder was underated here. He is a good striker with good workrate, Someone reliable that can sub Icardi. I remembered how good Eder at Samp. He can cover our 3 attackers position. A good team-player.
Back to the topic, in ideal world I wanna see SMS-Torreira/Barela duo in our miedfield. Maybe I'm too rush, but I consider Gags was a dissapointment so far.
 

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I'm not saying Eder is useless or anything. In fact, I'm saying he's probably someone who can force the SMS price to drop as Lazio will definitely see value in him. And that's a transfer for the summer, not an instant one. We can find a backup striker there, someone who won't complain and would be happy to be part of a CL team as a bench player (there's loads of Serie A veterans that could play the part). But I can't understand how Eder can be pleased without any playing time. He might be getting some next season but his career will be on a countdown and I can't see how he won't be upset. He's a good player and needs to be playing but he can only find that at a Sampdoria/Fiorentina/Lazio kind of team.

As for the SMS-Torreira/Barella midfield. The potential duo is actually more suited for a three man midfield. SMS as a box-to-box type of player, the other as a deep playmaker with defensive capabilities and they would both benefit from another defensive oriented midfielder who can occasionally move forward. That's where Vecino and/or Gagliardini come in. There's also Brozovic to be Milinkovic-Savic's backup and I gues Valero will be around to help with either Torreira/Barella if we sign one of them. Especially if Barella comes I see Spalletti being forced to rotate more, I'm a bit unsure if he can have an immediate impact whereas Torreira seems more able to.
 

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I dont think a lot of players would be happy with a Sub role, Eder is here and he is actually a better than average striker, i wouldn't sell him. Another player can be used for SMS if need be.
 

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Really? You can't be serious.

Why?
The only reason Pogba got more fame was playing for Juventus next to Pirlo and Vidal and they had Tevez in crazy form as well as a great defensive line. He got too much liberty, taking shots and everything so it was easy to notice the good things. On the other hand, SMS is dragging Lazio along with Immobile's scoring ability to a CL spot and he joined them when they were finishing 8th in the league and barely logged 65 minutes a game that time. If they had a fit Felipe Anderson they'd probably be targeting the Scudetto now.
 

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http://www.fcinter1908.it/copertina...spara-alto-ma-spalletti-intravede-nainggolan/

Lovely news...
Luciano,Ausilio,Suning approved player
So Luciano sees him like a Nainggolan like player
Suning approves young Italian players
Ausilio already talked to his agent
Cagliari want 20mil...

He is better than Verratti at that age i think tbh.
This...
Barella/Brozo
Torreira-Vecino/Gags

In the future...would be noooice

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Why?
The only reason Pogba got more fame was playing for Juventus next to Pirlo and Vidal and they had Tevez in crazy form as well as a great defensive line. He got too much liberty, taking shots and everything so it was easy to notice the good things. On the other hand, SMS is dragging Lazio along with Immobile's scoring ability to a CL spot and he joined them when they were finishing 8th in the league and barely logged 65 minutes a game that time. If they had a fit Felipe Anderson they'd probably be targeting the Scudetto now.

Lazio have been doing well for years but you have to attribute everything to SMS, don't you?

No, SMS is no where close to Pogba's level, he simply doesn't have that kind of talent. I have never seen SMS display anything close to Pogba's passing range, shooting, vision, skills, flair, etc... with BOTH feet.

SMS is good, would be super happy if we get him. But let's not exaggerate, ok?
 

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I'm not attributing everything to SMS. Inzaghi has played his part. Immobile has been scoring a lot. Lazio has a relatively good defensive line. There's also Felipe Anderson who did a lot of good things despite his inconsistencies. But Lazio has emerged as a very good side with SMS as their core midfielder. They lost Biglia who some people thought was indispensable (no one denies he's very good) and they're looking better now and they also have Europe where they're thriving so far. I think you are underestimating his effect on Lazio. And he's already a top midfielder. Ask anyone at Lazio, other than Immobile's scoring, everyone recognizes SMS as the team's leader.

His shooting is not comparable to Pogba's, he might not be as flashy as Pogba is but everything else is comparable and he's superior to a few aspects as well, including passing. This guy is a gem and he's two years younger than Pogba and never had the luxury to play for a top club or national team to get hyped upon.

edit: Just found this from June 2017: “If I was a sporting director of any top European club now, the first player I would buy is Sergej Milinkovic-Savic.” Leonardo

 
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Without a doubt if Suning want to improve our squad, Someone likes SMS is a must. If SMS is from Italy, France, or England his prices will be around 100m now. If there's a chance then let Sabatini does his job.
It's a more realistic option with Barella. Everytime I watch Barella played, I must say I impressed. We can do Bastoni here, Let him play in Sardinia till the end of season to get more Serie A experience (He was already the 'heart' at Sardinia). I'm so excited with Barella prospect, for me he is the next Verratti. An Italian jewel in the making..

Here's some scout review for him
http://outsideoftheboot.com/2017/10/16/scout-report-nicolo-barella-cagliari/

The most important issue now is get a good CB backup/ Miranda heir and a goalscoring player that will improve our miedfield.
 

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His shooting is not comparable to Pogba's, he might not be as flashy as Pogba is but everything else is comparable and he's superior to a few aspects as well, including passing

It's ridiculous someone would say sth like this.
 

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It's ridiculous someone would say sth like this.

Because...? I'd love to see your analysis of Sergej Milinkovic and a comparison to Juventus' Pogba.
 
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