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I have more issues with the rumoured replacements than with the amount we're going to spend. You sell Lukaku and your targets are Zapata, Dzeko, Correa, Scamacca and Moise Kean? GTFO!


There aren't too much forwards available in the market in our price range which seems to be at max 50m€.
 

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Heard Depay was not entered in La Liga. Might be something to look at as well.

Still should focus on Isak. Perfect Lukaku replacement
 
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True, but who?

Coutinho comes to mind as a potential Correa alternative. Makes 8.5m iirc so not a big concern.

Give them 5m + option and he costs less than Correa will.

They need to offload Umtitti, Dembele, probably want to get rid of Griezmann as well and a bunch of average guys like Dest, Sergi Roberto, Neto etc who make quite a lot.

Coutinho isn't a priority for them to offload and I wouldn't want us to get Ousmane Dembele, even on a dry loan.

Some may not get registered so we could poach someone when that happens.

Coutinho on loan with option to buy is definitely one of my choices ahead of Correa. Dembele is out for 6 month so he's out of the picture. Pjanic is Juve bound. Sergi Roberto can cover several positions so I would take him as well.
 

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Although I'm a fan of Coutinho why would that be a better option then Correa? At least Correa has shown something the last years. Coutinho showed absolute nothing the last years so even though Coutinho is a much better player he is a risk just like Correa. The only difference is we would take Coutinho on loan and therefore a cheaper option, but a ''better'' option? I have my doubts.
 

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Although I'm a fan of Coutinho why would that be a better option then Correa? At least Correa has shown something the last years. Coutinho showed absolute nothing the last years so even though Coutinho is a much better player he is a risk just like Correa. The only difference is we would take Coutinho on loan and therefore a cheaper option, but a ''better'' option? I have my doubts.
Maybe the reason that Coutinho hasn't shown anything in the past years is because he was a bad fit for Barca to begin with. Plus he had several injuries in the past years. Griezmann was also a bad fit for Barca and failed to impress, but we can't say he's not quality anymore.

I don't underrate Correa as much as many members here, but between these two I would definitely take Coutinho and play him behind 2 strikers or alongside Hakan behind a lone striker.
 

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Coutinho hands down one of the most overrated players in recent history. The only reason he showed something in that liverpool team, and even there he wasn't super impressive imo, is the fact that english football suits him much better than italian or any other for that fact.
 

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Correa is not available on a loan deal. Coutinho might be because Barcelona is truly fucked. As long as Lotito keeps asking over 30m€ for Correa, we aren't going to buy him. Loaning the player would give us options for next summer. We wouldn't have to commit anyone now as all the options are either too expensive (Vlahovic, Isak) or not totally convincing at least at their price point (Correa, Zapata)?
 

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Pjanic for sure though his priority seems to be Juve. Umtiti could have been an interesting gamble but we rushed to extend Lolarov. I don't think Dembele would suit in our system so no point taking. I don't think they would let any of their fullbacks go after selling Firpo. I also doubt they would let Griezmann leave after losing Messi. We can't afford him anyway. I would certainly take Coutinho on loan if Barca are willing to pay a part of his salary. Much better option than spending 30m+ on Correa.

Considering our situation, this wouldn't be too bad. At least on paper.

Handanovic; Skriniar, De Vrij, Bastoni; Brozovic; Dumfries, Barella, Hakan, Perisic; Coutinho; Lautaro

courinho only comes if we give Barca Lautaro. I mean they prob give us money or another player or two because they don’t rate him that highly but with our budget no way we get him without giving up a star player
 

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Although I'm a fan of Coutinho why would that be a better option then Correa? At least Correa has shown something the last years. Coutinho showed absolute nothing the last years so even though Coutinho is a much better player he is a risk just like Correa. The only difference is we would take Coutinho on loan and therefore a cheaper option, but a ''better'' option? I have my doubts.
I also prefer Correa if it's for a 3-5-1-1.
 

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courinho only comes if we give Barca Lautaro. I mean they prob give us money or another player or two because they don’t rate him that highly but with our budget no way we get him without giving up a star player
Barca is desperate to offload their players. News report indicates they are unable to register new players, e.g. aguero, depay in this situation. Hence they need to offload existing players to be able to register new players. I am thinking they would be open to loan coutinho plus buy option. The issue would be how much of coutinho's salary that we will take (and the purchase option). I am thinking given that we can save transfer budget this summer, if we taking a loan, we should have some margins for salary. Then again, Inzaghi knows correa so he might be more convenient with correa
 

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1) No matter who our manager is we're always linked to the same fucking cunts year in, year out. It's like we don't have scouts, or they severely lack imagination. 5 years from now, our manager will be some guy no one has ever heard of and yet we'll still be linked with Florenzi and Emerson.

In all seriousness, I would rather reinvest a good sum of the paltry amount of money we're going to be allowed to reinvest in doing something about the scouting and player development models currently at the club, because this is pretty stupid and has been for a long time now. Being linked to the same useless players year after year no matter what kind of system we're going to play is a really tired running joke by this point. I don't see why Atalanta is able to find gems everywhere across Europe and while we're always linked with useless Chelsea backups.
 

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Coutinho never had a proper chance at Inter, but he did at Espanyol and Liverpool, and he scored 2 against Barca for Bayern <3

If there is a chance to get either Coutinho on loan or Depay for free, DO IT
 

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Getting Correa or Insigne would mean we might play 3-4-2-1 with Dezko at the top as a limited target man. He might peak with that much support. I mean Lautaro/Hakan plus one of the Correa/Insigne should be enough outside of the box threat to open up some space.

But I’d prefer Coutinho+Toro that shit can be really good on paper. And Barca might consider a 2 year loan deal cuz of their financial problems.

Hopefully our midfield can cover for them 😅
 

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are you really disappointed with these names? Taking into considerations our lack of budget and financial limits, I have to say it looks promising. We would take 3 key players from our direct rivals and four of these players are current/former captains of their clubs.
Ofc, it would look much worse if we won't get Insigne, but someone like Scamacca instead.
 

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When you put it one way, Marotta + Ausilio are performing nothing short of a miracle. Replacing Eriksen, Hakimi, and Lukaku with Hakan, Dumfries, and Dzeko for roundabout 12m is good work - add 40/50m for whoever is going to bring us 15+ goals this season and while it's not a good transfer session, it's saved us from utter disaster.

On the other hand, the complete inability to sell or make any money from Dalbert, Lazaro, Joao Mario, Pinamonti, and Nainggolan is damning. Nainggolan is especially shit, considering Cagliari want him, got Dalbert, and we want Nandez, how the fuck hasn't a deal been made there :lol: We also still have to shift Vidal and possibly Vecino, and find loans for Agoume, Salcedo, and Satriano. Couple all that that with renewing Kolarov, giving Dzeko ridiculous wages, still no Brozo or Lautaro renewal, it paints a completely different (and shit) picture.

I don't want to factor in the goalkeeper situation, as I keep reading on Twitter that Onana has signed for us for 2022 but no one official (ie Romano, Di Marzio, Pedulla) has said anything yet.

We also sold Hakimi and Lukaku for under their market value, which is absolutely nuts. In fact, if we'd waited to sell Hakimi we could have avoided doing it completely.

So I don't know. It's definitely not good so far, but it's not an abject disaster. Really depends on that last striker purchase.
 

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How did we undersell Hakimi and Lukaku?
Go to Liverpool asking for Alexander-Arnold and they'll tell you "100m or piss off". We got 70m (if he hits the bonuses) for Hakimi, who is on that level.

Go to Dortmund asking for Haaland, and like they did to Chelsea, they'll tell you "175m or piss off". We got 115m, and yes Haaland is much younger, but Chelsea were desperate for a forward and so we could have milked them for 130.

In terms of average market price for the quality we sold + the availability of quality and proven centre forwards and right backs right now, we definitely undersold.
 

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Liverpool never quoted a price for TAA.

And Lukaku is in no ways comparable to Haaland in term of quality, potential and price.

What the hell is this conjecture? Messi just moved for free, care to factor him in?
 

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Go to Liverpool asking for Alexander-Arnold and they'll tell you "100m or piss off". We got 70m (if he hits the bonuses) for Hakimi, who is on that level.

Go to Dortmund asking for Haaland, and like they did to Chelsea, they'll tell you "175m or piss off". We got 115m, and yes Haaland is much younger, but Chelsea were desperate for a forward and so we could have milked them for 130.

In terms of average market price for the quality we sold + the availability of quality and proven centre forwards and right backs right now, we definitely undersold.
Liverpool can ask that because they don’t need money. If we didn’t need to sell we probably would’ve slapped a higher price on Hakimi. Haaland is as good as Lukaku is right now and almost a decade younger. Can’t really compare those two.
 
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