Mauro Icardi

[CafeCordoba]

Nothing to do with Icardi, but this VAR bullshit is just unbelievable. Raged over this already in FIF WA group.

This isn't how VAR should be used. To look back stuff after goal/PK call and look for potential errors. Fucking ref already CALLED that play as "not foul", he gestured Marcelo to get up after that "foul". It was not a foul and EVEN IF IT WAS, VAR shouldn't be able to overturn THAT call. VAR should only overturn refs goal/PK/red calls. This ref just bailed himself out at the pressure of Real players begging and the furious home crowd.

Disgusting.

 

[syrus]

Icardi putting PSG back in the Game!
:howler:

 

[Harpsabu]

Earned a clear PK and red card for Courtois only to be rescinded by a scandalous VAR decision where a slight touch was given as a free kick before the situation even began...

Laughable CL at its best.

Icardi is causing controversy in this forum over the decision, but it was such a bad Var call.

 

[Nothing]

https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/11/26/5ddd395eca4741432b8b461a.html

Well fuck him if it's true

 

[brehme1989]

https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/11/26/5ddd395eca4741432b8b461a.html

Well fuck him if it's true

Fuck him for being wanted by Real Madrid? What exactly did you see there that brings out this reaction?

All the article says is that Real Madrid wanted Icardi but were sort of held back from moving ahead because of Wanda. The article says nothing about Icardi's reaction to this or Wanda's even. Just that they "wanted to facilitate a move", which is just shooting blanks. Of course Real Madrid's paper will say that everyone wants to move there. They said the same about Zlatan, Totti and others, yet it wasn't even true.

 

[Ronaldo]

Spanish paper Marca claim Mauro Icardi tried to engineer a transfer to Real Madrid in 2017 and 2018, but the club had concerns over his character.

Icardi left Inter on loan to Paris Saint-Germain on transfer deadline day and has been a huge success, scoring 10 goals in 11 competitive games.

PSG hope he can continue that trend when facing Real Madrid in the Champions League this evening at the Bernabeu.


According to Marca, he could’ve played this fixture with the Merengues jersey, as he and wife/agent Wanda Nara had advanced negotiations for a transfer in both 2017 and 2018.

However, on both occasions, Real Madrid patron Florentino Perez scrapped the deal, as he had concerns over Icardi’s personality.

This was ultimately was prompted Inter to push him out the door and he eventually accepted the loan move to Paris Saint-Germain.

 

[Palacio]

How would the Icardi’s lobby explain how PSG played better when Icardi was subbed off?

 

[brehme1989]

How would the Icardi’s lobby explain how PSG played better when Icardi was subbed off?

Di Maria was also subbed out which was the catalyst.
And PSG did not play better, they even conceded a goal. PSG made a comeback because of a defensive mistake of Real Madrid and then Draxler-Sarabia were influential.

It's not like their other players are slouches. They had Neymar and Mbappe there. But Tuchel rarely takes Di Maria off because he expects him to make a play out of nothing which rarely happens. Worth the shot when you don't have Neymar, Mbappe and others on, but when you have better players Di Maria is just frustrating to watch as he keeps fucking up their attacks more often than not.

Nobody is arguing that Icardi is the best player of PSG. The argument is that we've given up our best player for peanuts and it will end up costing us.

Icardi would have been influential if the referee wasn't being a dick by cancelling his penalty + red on Courtois. And PSG would have won probably after that with relative ease.

 

[rfU]

Nothing to do with Icardi, but this VAR bullshit is just unbelievable. Raged over this already in FIF WA group.

This isn't how VAR should be used. To look back stuff after goal/PK call and look for potential errors. Fucking ref already CALLED that play as "not foul", he gestured Marcelo to get up after that "foul". It was not a foul and EVEN IF IT WAS, VAR shouldn't be able to overturn THAT call. VAR should only overturn refs goal/PK/red calls. This ref just bailed himself out at the pressure of Real players begging and the furious home crowd.

Disgusting.

Low key PSG fan? If that were PSG-Inter and Icardi looked for contact like that against Handa we'd all be screaming bloody murder, you included. They said VAR would eliminate controversy but here we are lol

Di Maria was also subbed out which was the catalyst.
And PSG did not play better, they even conceded a goal. PSG made a comeback because of a defensive mistake of Real Madrid and then Draxler-Sarabia were influential.

It's not like their other players are slouches. They had Neymar and Mbappe there. But Tuchel rarely takes Di Maria off because he expects him to make a play out of nothing which rarely happens. Worth the shot when you don't have Neymar, Mbappe and others on, but when you have better players Di Maria is just frustrating to watch as he keeps fucking up their attacks more often than not.

Nobody is arguing that Icardi is the best player of PSG. The argument is that we've given up our best player for peanuts and it will end up costing us.

Icardi would have been influential if the referee wasn't being a dick by cancelling his penalty + red on Courtois. And PSG would have won probably after that with relative ease.

Brehme, be objective, wasn't his best game. It also perfectly illustrated Icardi's limitations as a modern forward. Check the heat maps, touches, passes on whoscored versus Benzemas... For example Benzema had 77 touches compared with Icardi's 11 (three of which were shots). He didn't drop back or attempt to linkup with his team mates. At least Lukaku does that, however laughable.

If Mbappe hadnt' been selfish and squared it to Icardi for the tap in, all might have been forgotten perhaps, but he had a poor game. Admit that.

 

[El3na]

Low key PSG fan? If that were PSG-Inter and Icardi looked for contact like that against Handa we'd all be screaming bloody murder, you included. They said VAR would eliminate controversy but here we are lol
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I believe, that's the reason why he chose PSG.

 

[brehme1989]

Low key PSG fan? If that were PSG-Inter and Icardi looked for contact like that against Handa we'd all be screaming bloody murder, you included. They said VAR would eliminate controversy but here we are lol



Brehme, be objective, wasn't his best game. It also perfectly illustrated Icardi's limitations as a modern forward. Check the heat maps, touches, passes on whoscored versus Benzemas... For example Benzema had 77 touches compared with Icardi's 11 (three of which were shots). He didn't drop back or attempt to linkup with his team mates. At least Lukaku does that, however laughable.

If Mbappe hadnt' been selfish and squared it to Icardi for the tap in, all might have been forgotten perhaps, but he had a poor game. Admit that.

Ah yes, the heatmap and the famous touches

How about adding some context there?

What was Real Madrid's possession in the area that Benzema occupied?
What was PSG's possession in the area that Icardi occupied?

How much did Benzema run?
How much did Icardi run?

What was the focus of Real's attacks?
What was the focus of PSG's attacks?

Last but not least, where and how did their managers instruct them to play?

You do know that a player can be more dangerous without the ball, right? Ask any defender who has to deal with an evasive striker...

P.S. How does getting a tap in give him credit when all that was needed was to receive the ball? Was he in the wrong position which caused him not to receive it? Come on, be sensible please. I guess this is why Lucky Flukaku gets so much praise here. People just look at the scoresheet and draw conclusions.

 

[Alex de Large]

Madrid had 0 interest in him, it was him who wanted to go to Madrid

 

[brehme1989]

I love how everyone just picks up whatever cyclothemic clickbait-mania the media dictates.

Didn't Marca, the newspaper closest to Real Madrid, report this in March?
https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/03/02/5c79b4c4e5fdeace528b45ca.html

Real Madrid, Manchester United, PSG and Juventus asked about his situation as the problems began to grow for the player.

Same report has a quote from Wanda on this:
<<"That Mauro hasn't gone to Madrid because of me, as has been said in Spain, is false and we have a lot of respect for Real Madrid," his wife and agent Wanda Nara told MARCA at a hotel in Dubai.>>

Or this in February?
https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2019/02/16/5c66f79322601dbd748b4579.html

Does that appear as if Real Madrid did not want to sign Icardi? Or that they did want to sign him but did not because of Wanda? Now we have changed the rhetoric to "Wanda offered Mauro to Real Madrid?"


Now here is how Marca presented the story..

November 2017: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2017/11/29/5a1eee8046163fab668b4587.html
Real Madrid set eyes on Icardi for January transfer window

Then the same media source, a month later, reports this: https://www.marca.com/en/football/international-football/2017/12/15/5a3406da468aeb7d718b468d.html
Which is basically Wanda saying that if it were up to Icardi, he'd stay at Inter for his entire career.

Which pretty much cancels everything else that was said, since it's not Wanda's fault that he didn't move but Mauro's reluctance to leave, no?


And the last one before the infamous captaincy stripping: https://www.marca.com/en/football/real-madrid/2018/07/20/5b510ffdca4741401c8b462a.html

July 2018

<<Mauro Icardi is once again a potential target for Real Madrid, with Los Blancos looking to strengthen this summer following the departure of Cristiano Ronaldo.
President Florentino Perez promised major signings during Alvaro Odriozola's presentation and Icardi would fit the bill.
The Inter forward was already negotiating with Real Madrid last winter, but Los Blancos rarely make significant investments during that transfer window and no transfer came to fruition.>>

<<Icardi has scored 24 and 29 goals in his past two seasons with Inter and the Italian club appear resigned to losing him.
In fact, they're already started looking for a possible replacement for the man who helped return them to the Champions League, but who hasn't renewed his current deal.>>

That final part refers to the potential Higuain swap that was discussed with Juventus among other things.

There are more articles by Marca that just cancel each other out. In 2-3 weeks time you'll have a new article saying that Icardi never spoke to Real Madrid.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Low key PSG fan? If that were PSG-Inter and Icardi looked for contact like that against Handa we'd all be screaming bloody murder, you included. They said VAR would eliminate controversy but here we are lol

I was raging about VAR in general and that rule of looking back all that shit happening before goal/PK etc.

As for the contact, Icardi was a cheesy cunt who knew exactly what to do, look for the contact and that what he got. But it was a foul, Courtois did nothing but stormed to his feet, what an idiot.

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About those rumors, it's clear after all these years and the contract negotiations where Wanda used the interest of others to try to get a better contract that it was realmadrids of the world who wanted Icardi and no

 

[pazza moratti]

I just wish he would score lots of goals at PSG and find happines at Paris! While I enjoy that I can finally just follow how Inter does and dont have to read some shit about Wanda fuckin Nara!

 

[rfU]

What was Real Madrid's possession in the area that Benzema occupied?
What was PSG's possession in the area that Icardi occupied?

Thats the thing, Benz doesn't occupy one spot he's always moving, towards the ball, away from the ball, etc thats why his touches are 7 times that of Icardi. Icardi just looks to run into the box to get on the end of a pass, everything else he's not bothered about.

Last but not least, where and how did their managers instruct them to play?

This is how Icardi has played for years. Under different coaches. Safe to say this is his style of play, or at least the style of play he's comfortable with.

You do know that a player can be more dangerous without the ball, right?

on average strikers are making 30-50 touches a game, depending on opposition or formation etc, Even Tapnaldo manages as much. The only reason for a striker to manage only 11 touches is if their team has 30% possession or less. PSG didn't have that problem last night.

P.S. How does getting a tap in give him credit when all that was needed was to receive the ball?

Don't understand the question but Mbappe should've done better there, Icardi had done well to get away from his markers and into space.

Look, we both want the same thing i.e. for Icardi to do well, but he was poor against R.Madrid. From the point of view of a pSG fan, if he's not scoring he better be doing something else.

 

[sakera]

How would the Icardi’s lobby explain how PSG played better when Icardi was subbed off?

Icardi inspired the team from outside the field

 

[Shaun]

Watch us sell our only superstar, start with Lautaro and end up 12'th. Watch other players observe us selling our only superstar, and (rightly) analyze it as a lack of ambition.

Quote me on this. This changes nothing. If anything, the whole thing could unravel even more.

I think you're wrong. I think you'll eventually see an upturn in our teams's attack once the team grows accustomed to a different style and Icardi supporters will claim "if he was still here we would be scoring even more now. Why could he not have been given this support when he was here". Nor will we finish anywhere near 12th. We're already a team that struggles to score and relies on their defence for a good position in the table. You make it sound like his goals are the difference between us struggling to score more than Sassuolo and us scoring about as often as Parma. That's ridiculous and wrong. I'll be proven right next season.

Just putting this here :trolldad:

(I hope this doesn't end up being a jinx post)

 

[brehme1989]

Lautaro as a starting lone forward in Icardi's place in last year's system, with last year's teammates around the attack.... I think 12th place was optimistic seeing it was a February post.

 

[Candreva Crosses]

Lautaro as a starting lone forward in Icardi's place in last year's system, with last year's teammates around the attack.... I think 12th place was optimistic seeing it was a February post.

Wtf? This reasoning is dumb. You expect the team to play the same system, the same teammates around the attack when there is transfer months during the summer?

Plus, Shaun didn't quote the whole post. He even lashed out on Handanovic who has already saved us several times this season.