Mauro Icardi

[Jane The Virgin]

Ibra was allways the leader of the locker room, thought he wasn't never the captain. Icardi wanted be the captain, but he never was the leader of the locker room.

Hm, what now?

Where was Ibra the leader? In Juve lol? Inter lolx2? Milan lolx3? ManUTD x4? Ajax-barca-malmo??

Maybe in vanilla league now, yeah, sure... He can have that.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Also, it's not that simple. It's not just spalleti vs Icardi, Balkan clan as well, they started sucking maxis dick on insta the minute Icardi was striped down.

 

[Asperiini1]

Hm, what now?

Where was Ibra the leader? In Juve lol? Inter lolx2? Milan lolx3? ManUTD x4? Ajax-barca-malmo??

Maybe in vanilla league now, yeah, sure... He can have that.

Check yourself before you wreck yourself.

Also, it's not that simple. It's not just spalleti vs Icardi, Balkan clan as well, they started sucking maxis dick on insta the minute Icardi was striped down.

If you read something out of the web, like books you should know that in almost every club after Barca, Ibra was the leader of the locker room.

Not in Juve, but after that in Inter (vieira confirms this), Milan (he was the leader and influencer at locker room), United (Mourinho says in he's interviews that and Pogba).

At PSG, players respected him and listened him.

Ajax he was too young, Malmö too young, Barca was Messi's domain and is still, what Messi says, that goes.


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In Icardi's case he was given the captaincy purely by Thorir big man crush and that he can score goals. We lost great leader after Zanetti and those shoes are hard to find replacement.

Icardi didn't have locker rooms respect and also he didn't have coach respect. There is big difference of "being captain with the captains armband" and being leader of the locker room without the armband.

We have many leaders in the locker room and even in inside games. Handa is one, Ambro is leader in the pitch where he shows by his numerous saves and playing with he's hearth at the games.

I would love to see Skriniar is going to be leader, but this will come with time.

Now we have one of the biggest leaders in our group, Godin, who is been leader of Athletico and Uruguay so many years.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

He was the leader in Milan before Gattuso? And in Inter he was our leader, he and not Zanetti?

Ok...what books should I read? Ibras book?

 

[vitomins]

Objectivity is not something that you give to people, it's just there. It doesn't mean jack if you don't find me objective simply because you disagree with me. That just makes you subjective.

Come on man...every opinion you have ever shared on this forum is supported by some weird backstory you created in your head. The creation of those backstories is fueled by your hatred of Marotta, Conte, etc. or by your love for Icardi. That is the definition of being subjective.

 

[Asperiini1]

He was the leader in Milan before Gattuso? And in Inter he was our leader, he and not Zanetti?

Ok...what books should I read? Ibras book?

You are still fucking lost, there is many leaders in locker rooms. Maldini was one, Gattuso was one, Pippo was one, Influencers by how they behaved.

Ibra was cocky, grazy but hell he didn't shit the clubs where he played with social media shitshows. He was professional who was loved allmost all he's teammates in every club and respected even he wasn't CAPTAIN.

Let me check my boat time and come to Ååland to talk more about Influencers, Leaders and Captains.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Ok, glad we got this out of the way...

 

[Asperiini1]

You are still fucking lost, there is many leaders in locker rooms. Maldini was one, Gattuso was one, Pippo was one, Influencers by how they behaved.

Ibra was cocky, grazy but hell he didn't shit the clubs where he played with social media shitshows. He was professional who was loved allmost all he's teammates in every club and respected even he wasn't CAPTAIN.

Let me check my boat time and come to Ååland to talk more about Influencers, Leaders and Captains.

Messi is great example by being not captain in Barcelona (before he got the armband). He was the superstar who all respected and listened. He was the one person who didn't get along with Ibra, because Ibra was also superstar with big ego. Messi influenced many of the decisions in Barcelona and although Pyoul was the captain, i am sure that Messi had more influence in locker room than Pyoul.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Hey man, you convinced me already. Stop it before you convince yourself.

 

[Asperiini1]

Hey man, you convinced me already. Stop it before you convince yourself.

Don't need to convince myself, i have masters degree in leadership and business.

 

[brehme1989]

I am pretty sure Van der Vaart shares the point that Zlatan got along with all his teammates.

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Come on man...every opinion you have ever shared on this forum is supported by some weird backstory you created in your head. The creation of those backstories is fueled by your hatred of Marotta, Conte, etc. or by your love for Icardi. That is the definition of being subjective.

You would love that to be true, but I rarely comment on things I do not have knowledge on unless I make it clear that is speculation or something hopeful.

I have no reason to hate Marotta and I do not. I just always felt that he was overrated and a completely wrong choice of personnel. All his actions so far prove me right, maybe you will see it later.

 

[tanorini]

Do u guys foresee that Icardi might stay in Inter? what if for example he changes agent?

Also who do u think is a perfect replacement?

 

[A.l.i]

No way now. This exclusion from the training camp was the final straw. Such a shame as Icardi would have reached new levels with Conte.

Replacement? Lukaku.

 

[vitomins]

I am pretty sure Van der Vaart shares the point that Zlatan got along with all his teammates.

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You would love that to be true, but I rarely comment on things I do not have knowledge on unless I make it clear that is speculation or something hopeful.

I have no reason to hate Marotta and I do not. I just always felt that he was overrated and a completely wrong choice of personnel. All his actions so far prove me right, maybe you will see it later.

To keep the focus on Icardi I will post my long response in Marotta's thread...

 

[forzainter257]

but there is also some truth in there. Like Icardi not wanting to leave Inter but being forced by Marotta to find a new club.

If he doesn't want to leave then why didn't he accept 6,5 mln/year contract? Why didn't he respect the club's decision on stripping him of the armband and continue playing? Is he playing for free? Or do you think there is term in the contract where it says Icardi can stop playing football should the club decide to strip him of the captain's armband?

Because Spalletti had lost the plot and the team's captain wanted to do something about it.

man oh man, when Icardi did something captain worthy? when? Yeah I remember he presented watches to all of his teammates, that's actually a very good will. I also remember when he scored that screamer against Tottenham after which players responded positively and fought for the victory. But he did so many anti-captain deeds that if you put them on a scale it's gonna overweight the other plate.

"If you can't support us when we lose don't support us when we succeed"? or what the fuck did he wrote on his instagram. I honestly don't believe he wanted to do something to unite his teammates. Probably all he was thinking was to get the contract Inter couldn't afford

 

[InterFCAustin]

Of course that's true and the healthiest way of thought. But opinion needs to change when the facts change, not whenever one has a mood swing. Which is why I don't really believe that those who started bitching against Icardi after the management decided to kick him out of the team by stripping him of the captaincy. I mean that's unprecedented and even his bigger haters at the tome wanted him sold or at most stripped of the captaincy at the end of the season!


Vito, I'm one of the easiest people to convince to sway their view if you show me hardcore facts that suggest that this is the only course of action. Thia has not been done in the Icardi thread. Everyone agrees that Icardi was dumb to sit out for 6 weeks, but that is not the reason of the Icardi saga, it's just something that developed due to the friction. I'm not going to blatantly insist that it was raining three days ago just because it started raining yesterday. I'd suggest you also do the same. Objectivity is not something that you give to people, it's just there. It doesn't mean jack if you don't find me objective simply because you disagree with me. That just makes you subjective.

Yup, we just woke up one morning, collectively, FIFers and Marotta, and Zhang, and 90% of opinionsts, and we just had a mood swing and started hating Icardi, while you, have all the HARDCORE FACTS, and SOURCES.

O holiest of all, o wisest of all, o the just of the world, o master of all, or creator of all things, o King of all times, guide us with you knowledge, give us the sources of the truth, to us sheep with mood swings, who only rely on social media, tell us the truth of this, you're the mightiest of all, you know the FACTS, guide us thru this cacophony of yours that you been spitting for few months, tell us please, dont leave us in the dark.

 

[forzainter257]

If rube offers 40 mln and Marotta accepts it brehme is going to accuse him of being a trojan horse who made all this mess just to make things easer for rube
if Marotta does not accept any offer from rube less than 80 mln and eventually Icardi ends up staying in the club brehme is going to blame Marotta for not letting Icardi go

 

[InterFCAustin]

I have no doubt, deep on his mind, he also approves the way we putting this spoiled entitled man child, who refused to play, in his spot, but his ego wont let him admit that Marotta is doing it right.
For some reason he's obsessed to prove himself as number 1 anti Juve on FIF.

 

[Inter7]

I have no doubt, deep on his mind, he also approves the way we putting this spoiled entitled man child, who refused to play, in his spot, but his ego wont let him admit that Marotta is doing it right.
For some reason he's obsessed to prove himself as number 1 anti Juve on FIF.

But its not being done right, how can you half the value of your main asset and then freeze him out of the squad with only your eternal enemy in for him? This isnt the right way even if it MIGHT be the right thing to do. Although I dont think it is.

 

[William]

If rube offers 40 mln and Marotta accepts it brehme is going to accuse him of being a trojan horse who made all this mess just to make things easer for rube

If Brehme doesn’t I sure as shit will!!

I want Icardi gone but 40mil is daylight robbery! It won’t happen though for many reasons, one of which is that our young president will tell them to get fucked.

 

[InterFCAustin]

But its not being done right, how can you half the value of your main asset and then freeze him out of the squad with only your eternal enemy in for him? This isnt the right way even if it MIGHT be the right thing to do. Although I dont think it is.

Maybe. Maybe not, sure.
Problem is, Icardi has no right for the benefit of the doubt.
The fact that, he's the biggest asset we've had in a while, yet the management chose to do what they doing, to me, is a sign that they've had enough if him. Don't you think there comes a time where you gotta put your foot down and draw the line, for him and for everyone else?
Persic asked to leave, they put him in his place too. Show us the money, you can leave, otherwise, shut you ass up and do things the right way.
I wanna say, Marotta gonna do same here, not gonna let Icardi go for peanuts.
I'm sure he's done his homework on devaluation of the asset and the backlash.
Now this drop of value, that's very subjective thing, depending on what did you think his value was? Just cuz his release clause was 110, doesn't mean that's his value. To me Icardi was always worth around 80mil, maybe 90mil, max.
So if say, we sell him for 60-70, id be happy with it.