Matteo Politano

[CoolMan44]

Does Keita really have 4 assists? I only recall one assist the he made which was for Lautaro's goal against Frosinone. Unless they are counting the 5th goal against Genoa where Keira miscontrolled a ball into the path of J. Mario for the goal, or the Napoli goal that was deflected off a defender (as it would not have reached Lautaro otherwise).

 

[phonk]

You're right CoolMan its the other way round, I got a little confused there. Keita has 4 goals and 3 assists. And yes, these are the correct games, technically these still count as assists.

 

[Pajo]

Keita has two assist. Check whoscored. Even Bes gave him 2. Politano has 3.

But it doesnt matter. We all know Keita has better finishing and is more adventurous at going forward. And if you really are into stats that much, if you check you will see that Politano is better at every single stat there is. I think only dribblings per game and goals might be on Keita's side.

edit: just checked whoscored, even dribbling is on Politanos side. Keita has scored more (with much less attempts too), and has higher passing % (with much less attempted passes). In everything else, Politano is, vastly, better than Keita.

 

[CafeCordoba]

Are the stats been scaled based on minutes played? Politano is a starter where Keita is a sub.

To me they are both like sub level players, not starting material. Other one is smart, other one not. Other one can produce somewhat t something, other one doesn't.

 

[phonk]

Keita has two assist. Check whoscored. Even Bes gave him 2. Politano has 3.

But it doesnt matter. We all know Keita has better finishing and is more adventurous at going forward. And if you really are into stats that much, if you check you will see that Politano is better at every single stat there is. I think only dribblings per game and goals might be on Keita's side.

edit: just checked whoscored, even dribbling is on Politanos side. Keita has scored more (with much less attempts too), and has higher passing % (with much less attempted passes). In everything else, Politano is, vastly, better than Keita.

I mean that depends on how you want to interpret an assist. If you count the player who gives the ball to the goalscorer then Keita has 3 assists, but as you mentioned it doesn't really matter.

And who said I like stats that much? I simply provided the amount goals and assists per player, because some stats are more important than others for every single position, that is at least my opinion .
Politano being better in all the other categories doesn't really surprise me, it shows that he is a more developed as a player, as he should be, hence being 2 years older.

My point is how ineffective Politano actually is. Keita has been involved in more goals than him, despite only being played for half the amount of minutes (in Serie A), and I guarantee you I am in no way a Keita fanboy.
The most important thing is for Inter to succeed and I am not convinced that Politano can contribute as much as we need him to. He is good enough for this season, sure. But if we want to progress as a club every season, then Politano might not be the right guy for the wing, to me he is just way to average and I think he has already reached his ceiling, or is at least very close to it.

 

[Pajo]

Are the stats been scaled based on minutes played? Politano is a starter where Keita is a sub.

To me they are both like sub level players, not starting material. Other one is smart, other one not. Other one can produce somewhat t something, other one doesn't.

Nah, it's average per match. Thats what makes whoscored the best site for stats out there.

I mean that depends on how you want to interpret an assist. If you count the player who gives the ball to the goalscorer then Keita has 3 assists, but as you mentioned it doesn't really matter.

And who said I like stats that much? I simply provided the amount goals and assists per player, because some stats are more important than others for every single position, that is at least my opinion .
Politano being better in all the other categories doesn't really surprise me, it shows that he is a more developed as a player, as he should be, hence being 2 years older.

My point is how ineffective Politano actually is. Keita has been involved in more goals than him, despite only being played for half the amount of minutes (in Serie A), and I guarantee you I am in no way a Keita fanboy.
The most important thing is for Inter to succeed and I am not convinced that Politano can contribute as much as we need him to. He is good enough for this season, sure. But if we want to progress as a club every season, then Politano might not be the right guy for the wing, to me he is just way to average and I think he has already reached his ceiling, or is at least very close to it.

Yeah, i'd agree. We all know Politano end product is crap. He is doing more than decent so far, but really needs to do better with his finishing and end touch. Hopefully he does soon enough, or he can be rotational player at most.
Shame that shot vs. Sass didn't go in, it was nice touch. We need more of those.

 

[Choppin Onions]

In 2006 we had Mihajlovic, Adriano, Recoba and Figo on our books and now we can't even have someone curl a decent ball into the box.

Good memories right there. 4 guys who could whip in a dangerous ball anywhere on the pitch be it corners or FKs half a fucking mile away from goal.

Politano had his chance at dead ball situations. He's terrible at them. Try someone else. Brozo is a good passer and has the vision. Give him a shot. If memory serves, he was the one that took the corner to beat Lazio last season.

 

[varmin]

Yeah, i'd agree. We all know Politano end product is crap. He is doing more than decent so far, but really needs to do better with his finishing and end touch. Hopefully he does soon enough, or he can be rotational player at most.
Shame that shot vs. Sass didn't go in, it was nice touch. We need more of those.

Agree to disagree. Politano's end product might be crap when he's playing Icardi with. In the only three games where Icardi wasn't on the pitch, Politano has 2 goals and 1 assist. That is not crap. He just doens't get along with Icardi.
He is crap set pieces taker, that is true.

 

[chipschups]

Suso 5 goals 8 assist
Chiesa 3 goals 3 assist
Callejon 1 goal 5 assist
Cengiz 3 goals 5 assist
Berardi 3 goals 3 assist
Politano 2 goals 3 assist

Maybe some site report differently but this season except Suso other right winger just have underwhelmed season tho.

Icardi x politano really need figuring out how to made connection. Its just ridicilous they only have 1 goal between them. Like last match Icardi made a run to reach the reguler low pass like Candreva or Pero used to make but then Poli do step over instead and make crossing behind Icardi who already lost the balance. Thats just embarrasing moment how both like never play together.

 

[Universe]

I don't give a fuck about fucking stats. Use your eyes and you will see what there is to be seen. Vecino often finishes matches with a passing completion rate of below 70% but I don't need those statistics to see that he's a garbage player.

Likewise, I see with Politano that he makes some very nice moves and decisions and runs and passes in the build up. The problem is that when that crucial moment arrives for Politano to beat his defender with a dribble, or take a shot on goal, or provide a key pass, he ends up embarrassing himself 9 times out of 10. That is plainly obvious to be seen. It's what I've been saying since the day we signed him and no, it doesn't discount the good work he does prior to that. But it is a consideration regarding the player that is unavoidable and must be negated to the best of the teams ability. Just like we "deal with" Icardi's lack of pace by not putting him positions to run at or past defenders. If Icardi had one tenth of Mbappe's pace, he wouldn't be trying some bullshit, first-touch, backheel flicks to Perisic every time to ball breaks to him on the counter.

Obviously, Politano will still succeed here and there. Obviously no player in the world can beat every defender every time, or score from every shot they take. But the point is, even without dissecting tedious statistics, that better players are visibly more likely (higher percentage) of making something happen. You can see it in the way they play and execute things from game to game. I don't need to drag up statistics to know that when Robben cuts in from the right to shoot with his left, that he is infinitely more likely to put a beautiful curler into the top corner than Politano could ever dream of. Of course Politano can and probably will score similar goals here and there but that 'small' difference in statistics is inherently and vastly more visible to the eye.

 

[ArmaLetale]

I would choose to redeem Vrsaljko over Politano any day now. It will take us zillion years before finding the right RB again, that I can't take.

 

[snake]

We finally have a young Italian forward who can run at defenders, carry the ball and give us some excitement forward and you fuckers want to let him go.

He has ALL the ingredients to succeed. If this motherfucker converts some of his runs and shots, even just by 10%, we'll be laughing. He has the IT factor. You can't train to have that. You do or don't. You can however train your shooting etc.

We have more to gain then to lose. Let go of him and he will be starting for Juve in 2 years

 

[satubito]

I would choose to redeem Vrsaljko over Politano any day now. It will take us zillion years before finding the right RB again, that I can't take.

We have a new RB for a cheap option which is a better deal than getting Darmian. Also, Politano will only get better. We must redeem him.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We finally have a young Italian forward who can run at defenders, carry the ball and give us some excitement forward and you fuckers want to let him go.

He has ALL the ingredients to succeed. If this motherfucker converts some of his runs and shots, even just by 10%, we'll be laughing. He has the IT factor. You can't train to have that. You do or don't. You can however train your shooting etc.

We have more to gain then to lose. Let go of him and he will be starting for Juve in 2 years

To me, Politano has everything else than the IT factor!

But yeah, shooting can be practiced. Scoring can be practiced (even if scoring instinct can't be practiced). Zlatan practiced shooting and scoring at Juve and look where he got. Scored tons of goals in his career.

Politano's option is so low that I'm pretty sure we will redeem him. He's been a starter for us for the whole season.

 

[Revv]

We finally have a young Italian forward who can run at defenders, carry the ball and give us some excitement forward and you fuckers want to let him go.

He has ALL the ingredients to succeed. If this motherfucker converts some of his runs and shots, even just by 10%, we'll be laughing. He has the IT factor. You can't train to have that. You do or don't. You can however train your shooting etc.

We have more to gain then to lose. Let go of him and he will be starting for Juve in 2 years

He runs at defenders and does what? I’ve never seen him give a great ball into the box, when he cuts back and shoots is from retarded angles and when he has a better angle it’s to a defender he’s nothing special he’s a bench player at best. Pissed we wasted money on this good for nothing

 

[ArmaLetale]

We finally have a young Italian forward who can run at defenders, carry the ball and give us some excitement forward and you fuckers want to let him go.

He has ALL the ingredients to succeed. If this motherfucker converts some of his runs and shots, even just by 10%, we'll be laughing. He has the IT factor. You can't train to have that. You do or don't. You can however train your shooting etc.

We have more to gain then to lose. Let go of him and he will be starting for Juve in 2 years

That is a huge 'If'. And I don't think that this motherfucker is good enough to change that 'if'.

We have a new RB for a cheap option which is a better deal than getting Darmian. Also, Politano will only get better. We must redeem him.

Only to find ourselves about to be left by Dalbert. What a fucked up situation.

Is Cedric Soares, by any chance, versatile? That he could be posted on the left flank?

 

[varmin]

He runs at defenders and does what? I’ve never seen him give a great ball into the box, when he cuts back and shoots is from retarded angles and when he has a better angle it’s to a defender he’s nothing special he’s a bench player at best. Pissed we wasted money on this good for nothing

If it's only him sending shit balls in the penalty area, i would agree. But Perisic does the same. Vrsaljko does the same. Brozovic does the same when takes the corners or set pieces. It's not so quality of crosses but the positioning of the players in the penalty area. Spalletti should work on that but i don't see any improvement so far.

 

[rockball]

I really want Politano to succeed, but it just doesn't look like at the moment. I'll get blasted for this, but even Candreva has better end product.

If Politano continues this way, it's only a matter of few months before he drives us to the point of frustration that Candreva did.

 

[Universe]

We finally have a young Italian forward who can run at defenders, carry the ball and give us some excitement forward and you fuckers want to let him go.

He has ALL the ingredients to succeed. If this motherfucker converts some of his runs and shots, even just by 10%, we'll be laughing. He has the IT factor. You can't train to have that. You do or don't. You can however train your shooting etc.

We have more to gain then to lose. Let go of him and he will be starting for Juve in 2 years

mm I don't know. I think we're talking about different 'its' because I'm referring to that high-level, almost effortless ability some players have to do simply make the ball go where they want it to (most of the time). I'm not referring to Ronaldinho level dribbling or ball skills, but just the ability to make the ball do what you want, consistently.

I'm talking about that intrinsic ability to put the right amount of bend or dip or power or backspin on the ball in the heat of the moment, without having to think about it. That automatic sense to to hit the ball with the inside or outside of the foot, or on the laces depending on the desired outcome. Simply the innate ability to do with the ball, whatever the situation requires, very naturally.

You remember that 4-2 Stramala derby v Milan a few years back? Without even mentioning his perfect free kick which set up Milito's opener, Sneijder pulled some fucking jumping karate kick on the volley from 40m out, on target, struck with the perfect amount of power and topspin to come down at the exact right time, and hit Amelia's fucking post.

Sneijder had all of 1 second to adjust his body and strike the ball to such effect. That's my point, he didn't have to think about it. All that sense and technique in executing that shot came to him effortlessly and naturally. That's the kind of "it" factor I want and that Politano lacks. But I'm not even asking that much. If that's a 9/10 then all I ask is a 7 or even 6. But Politano's closer to a 5 or a 4 on his bad days. And for a starter in a top team, it's not good enough.

So many times this season a ball has fallen to Politano, with time and space to shoot, at a very reasonable distance, at a very generous angle, on his preferred left foot, and he has completely fucking fucked it royally. He gets his body shape all wrong, he hits it with his laces when he should side-foot it or vice verse, or he doesn't pick out a target and shoots right at the keeper. He lacks the innate, intrinsic confidence, sense and technique to consistently execute the necessary striking of the ball - whether a pass, cross or shot.

 

[dax21]

It's hard to be objective about Politano because he is a very likable guy. Him hesitating with long range shooting when given an opportunity is not a fault exclusive to him, almost everyone shares that train in the squad other than Radja. Not sure if Spalletti doesn't like that kind of approach or what.