Luc Castaignos

Vibe · Jul 28, 2012

Gone to Twente for 6 million.

So long...

Darren · Jul 28, 2012

Can be moved to Former Players

The deal is confirmed by Luc himself.

But be realistic guys, are you really telling me all the powerful people in charge at Inter could not convince a 19-year old to take a loan?
Do you really expect me to believe that?

interista4 · Jul 28, 2012

Such a shame, 3mil euro profits.. bravo. Couldn't we just loan him? do we must sell any youngster we have.. I don't get it.
Well if he didn't accept a loan to them that is a diff case, any sources?

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

interista4 said:
Such a shame, 3mil euro profits.. bravo. Couldn't we just loan him? do we must sell any youngster we have.. I don't get it.
Well if he didn't accept a loan to them that is a diff case, any sources?

hey, its part of the rejuvenation plan.

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

You know that Castaignos didn't want to be loaned out, right? He rejected loan, twice. You know that he wanted Feeyenord or no other team, right? And you do know that Strama didn't want him as well?

edit: just seen the last part lol. He said himself that he doesn't want to be loaned out. I have a friend that lives in Holland and is fcinternews reporter from there, knows Luc in person pretty well. I asked him about the same, since i think Luc can be very good player in the future. His response, i translated here. Look few pages back.

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

Pajo said:
You know that Castaignos didn't want to be loaned out, right? He rejected loan, twice. You know that he wanted Feeyenord or no other team, right? And you do know that Strama didn't want him as well?

Not true.

He said he was happy to go abroad, he just didn't want to play for any other Italian club than Inter.

In the Jan of 12, yes that might be true, but now? He was happy to leave on loan to develop. Just Inter said 'Go on loan to an Italian club or we'll sell you'

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

No, he wanted ONLY Feyenoord. And loaning him to Holland, i doubt it will do much good.

He could be also loaned to EPL, he refused that too.

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

Pajo said:
No, he wanted ONLY Feyenoord. And loaning him to Holland, i doubt it will do much good.

He could be also loaned to EPL, he refused that too.

Again, from every source I've seen this SUMMER (Last winter what you're saying is true) Inter said only 'Italy or sale'.

Luc: "The situation is clear. I wanted to return to Feyenoord on loan, but Inter gave me an ultimatum: loan out in Italia or sale. My response was, that in Italy i wanted to play just for Inter, I came to Italy to wear nerazzurro and not other jersey. However now i must leave, and Inter will help me on that. I am very sad, I won't deny it, but this is football. The choice is made by me and the society. I am very sory that i couldn't show my abilities."

Yes, he PREFERRED Feyenoord, but there's nothing there to imply that Inter tried to place him with any other club outside of Italy - OR that he would not go on loan to a club outside Italy.

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

That's not what i've been told. By a person that knows him in person, and knows him and his family pretty well.

Castaignos didn't want to get loaned, nowhere, because he felt it was step down. He wanted to go to his old club only, or be sold.

---------- Post added at 19:01 ---------- Previous post was at 18:59 ----------

There:

http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?8693-Luc-Castaignos&p=969862&viewfull=1#post969862

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

Pajo said:
That's not what i've been told. By a person that knows him in person, and knows him and his family pretty well.

Castaignos didn't want to get loaned, nowhere, because he felt it was step down. He wanted to go to his old club only, or be sold.

Yep, I couldn't care less (tbh) about external sources. I'd rather listen to what the player says directly. Rather than the friend of someone on a forum who claims to know him well.

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

I know he knows him well, i don't claim.

He has pics of him, was telling me about luc since the boy was 16.

And what the player said? That he is willing to go on loan outside Feyenoord? I haven't seen something like that.

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

Pajo said:
I know he knows him well, i don't claim. He has pics of him, was telling me about luc since the boy was 16.

And what the player said? That he is willing to go on loan outside Feyenoord? I haven't seen something like that.

He also never said he only wanted to go to Feyenoord. Just that his preferred destination was Feyenoord. THe ultimatium was a loan in Italy or a sale. That's the only thing that counts. And he wanted to be sold.

Its poor man management from Inter no matter what the case is.

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

Everyone is entitled to his own believe i guess. I don't believe they gave him that ultimatum. As far as I know there were links that Newcastle want him, and that he refused. Why would he?

Nvm, in the end, everyone believes in the thing that supports his opinion, and even more important, we don't know shit what's going on behind the scenes. As far as we are concerned, Luc have maybe said "Fuck you, i want out", but also Branca has maybe said "Luc, i will see you, fuck you".

We know shit.

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

indeed, it is true, no one knows for sure - but I'd rather put some faith in the public interview, than what you heard on a grapevine from what some guy who claims to be castaignos' bfffff4evarz<3 private spokesperson.

Either way.

For a good young talent, you try to help him. We did not give Coutinho an 'Italy or bust' loan offer... You try to manage the situation.

Bad management = people are potential problems
Good management = people are resources

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

We do not know if we gave him the same offer for him either, don't we?

.h. · Jul 28, 2012

Pajo said:
We do not know if we gave him the same offer for him either, don't we?

Sure, but we don't know we did. I would assume he'd have mentioned it if we did, or someone from the club would have said something. The lack of comments since this interview from either side indicates to me that we didn't.

Pajo · Jul 28, 2012

Yeah.. I was saying the same, different sources, different information, and everyone believe in the one which supports his opinion

While the truth is, we know nothing.

akusukako · Jul 28, 2012

castaignos signing for twente to replace luuk de jong who switch to Borussia Monchengladbach.

we should have swap castaignos for luuk really. luuk is quite versatile striker

Bill · Jul 28, 2012

How is it poor man management on Inter's part if they give him opportunities and he doesn't take them? Other youngsters took loan options to smaller clubs, not to mention how loaning youth to smaller clubs is something that happens across all of Europe. We can use this cash to get a better attacker (Gomez) or make an investment in the midfield.

Darren · Jul 29, 2012

HYDEZ said:
How is it poor man management on Inter's part if they give him opportunities and he doesn't take them? Other youngsters took loan options to smaller clubs, not to mention how loaning youth to smaller clubs is something that happens across all of Europe. We can use this cash to get a better attacker (Gomez) or make an investment in the midfield.

It is poor management because we gave him an ultimatum (Italy or sale). He didn't want another team in Italy, so we sold him. That's the story at least. IF that's true, wouldn't you agree that's a poor way of handling a promising talent?

It gives us some cash (6 mil reported) but that isn't worth much. Castaignos's talent on the other hand COULD be worth a lot more. That warrants finding a solution that involves keeping him tied to Inter, while developing his talents somehow. Like loan outside of Italy (not Holland).

Someone said he wanted 'only Feyenoord or Inter'? That sounds freaking ridiculous to me tbh.. I assume he does have a functioning brain, you know. He knows he needs to develop. He knows he won't really do that at Feyenoord.

You say we should sell him because he (supposedly) refused certain loans? So convince him! He's 19 years old! I'm sure Moratti could have had a personal talk with Luc to persuade him.

I'd put money on this: Moratti hasn't had one personal conversation with the guy.

For someone who is talented, shouldn't you TRY to find something that works instead of giving him an ultimatum? Look at all the chances we gave to Balotelli for example. Of course it was already clear Balo was going to be world-class and that's not 100% sure with Luc, but still.

I think during this whole saga Luc quickly got the feeling his club didn't want him anymore. That he wasn't part of the plans and they didn't value him. A departure from that point on is easy.

The whole situation reeks of Inter just not caring enough to actually work out something. Being inflexible. Renewal project > 'Being difficult?' ok gtfo then'.

Luc? Pazzini? Julione? Sound like poor man mangement if you ask me..

Luc Castaignos

Rate the player:

10 - Will be one of the absolutely best players in the history of the game (think Meazza, Matheus)

9 - Will be one of the club legends, and become one of the best players in the world of their era

8 - A player of very good quality, who will add much to the team, one of the best nationalwise

7 - Good player, a valuble asset of a team, one of the 10-15 best on his position in the country

6 - Above average player, who will be usefull, but will never be a key player for a team

5 - Completely average player

4 - Below average, not a disaster, but would be better if we didn't sign him in the first place

3 - Anonymous player who will never be remembered through the fact nobody expected anything from him

2 - Close to a useless player, who will add nothing to the team besides filling the CL quota

1 - Crap, shit, useless player, worst buisness ever, Mancini, Quaresma and Gresko combined

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