Lautaro Martinez

[wera]

Btw his finish in that wrongly taken away second goal was pure class.

Reminds me of a goal he also scored for Argentina that was called offside

 

[Meysam]

I don't think it's necessary to put a label on him, he is not fast, not deadly in front of the goal, not a star, yes, but he is just the only hope we have to achieve anything great this season given that Dzeko is old and can't be expected to be in-form every game and given the fact that we can't rely on Correa and Lukaku.

Lautaro's issues are well known now, but it's a package, maybe he could be more clinical, be more lucid, if he had less intense activity outside the box but it's how he plays and that relentless pressing helps the team a lot too. When he is in a good day, Lautaro is fantastic like in the coppa game against Milan last year, but seeing that he can't always be that player, especially with Inter playing with two strikers we should have another striker to complete him but we don't. Dzeko is still class but as seen yesterday they don't really click, Lautaro and Lukaku used to work well but the belgian is useless now. Correa's case is hopeless.

Lautaro-Dybala could have been nuts but that ship has sailed...

Fair enough, Lautaro-Dybala should have been great. however, I'll go with selling him, only the right price comes.

 

[Alex de Large]

Isn't Dybala always injured?

 

[Glass box]

Isn't Dybala always injured?

he scored a few days ago, after three months lol

 

[NimAraya]

Even I accept his touch skill is not as bad as Lukaku, this doesn't change the fact that we can not rely on him as star who is not deadly finisher, technical, speedy or at least summit in one aspect. what I see is an ordinary player maybe a little more than everage and I have doubt he could carry burden of team when team are suffering a bad day and could save us.
When all team were in a bad day, I've seen him who could not save us with a great goal or move. he is mostly predictable.

We don't rely on him as the star of the team. He's one of the more important players in the team but in the manner of importance I rate him lower than Barella, Skriniar and a fit Brozovic. He's not supposed to carry of the burden of the team. Actually we don't have that kind of player in our entire squad.

And he's not average, he's inconsistent. When he's in a bad day his ball control could reach Lukaku's level, but all in all he's a better footballer than Lukaku.

 

[Il Drago]

We don't rely on him as the star of the team. He's one of the more important players in the team but in the manner of importance I rate him lower than Barella, Skriniar and a fit Brozovic. He's not supposed to carry of the burden of the team. Actually we don't have that kind of player in our entire squad.

And he's not average, he's inconsistent. When he's in a bad day his ball control could reach Lukaku's level, but all in all he's a better footballer than Lukaku.

Considering he has one of the highest salaries in the squad, second only to Lukaku, he should have been the star of the team. He was asking for a very high salary so he also needs to take the responsibility that comes with it.

 

[Meysam]

We don't rely on him as the star of the team. He's one of the more important players in the team but in the manner of importance I rate him lower than Barella, Skriniar and a fit Brozovic. He's not supposed to carry of the burden of the team. Actually we don't have that kind of player in our entire squad.

And he's not average, he's inconsistent. When he's in a bad day his ball control could reach Lukaku's level, but all in all he's a better footballer than Lukaku.

To be honest, I can't be more agree than you.

 

[CafeCordoba]

And he takes a lot of responsibility. Issue is he doesn't have that guy next to him scoring goals regularly. Apart from Dzeko but he's not a striker who starts twice every week.

I keep saying Toro is not the main guy in our attack or should not be. He's paid not only for the goals but the grunt stuff too. He's valuable because he can pull that stuff in addition to goals. Overpaid in a case there are not enough goals but at least last season there was enough (too bad he was the best scorer, shouldn't be like that).

 

[NimAraya]

Considering he has one of the highest salaries in the squad, second only to Lukaku, he should have been the star of the team. He was asking for a very high salary so he also needs to take the responsibility that comes with it.

Base on salary, yes. But qualitywise he's not that kind of player. If I should single out one player who is the most important player in the team it'll be between Barella and Skriniar, not Lautaro or Lukaku.

 

[brakbrak]

Btw his finish in that wrongly taken away second goal was pure class.

Great to see his composure once in a while

 

[forzainter257]

If it was up to me, I would never sell him. He and Barella are the only players with the highest football IQ. I would sign some Vidal type of DM and some bone-breaker type of CB ala Matrix who would terrify opponents so that them fuckers don't dare foul on Lautaro at all. There were many times when he was being bullied and nobody would guard him. I always thought Skriniar was the type of player who would protect his teammates, but he never seemed caring. With some protection, Lautaro would be able to produce a lot more.

 

[crzdcolombian]

Hope Messi goes to Qatar as well in the summer and then whatever team he goes to pays us 200
Million for Martinez or 50 million for Correa becuase Messi likes them

 

[ronaldoR9]

Mediocre player for 3 years in a row.

WC showed how bad is he.

 

[dax21]

If it was up to me, I would never sell him. He and Barella are the only players with the highest football IQ. I would sign some Vidal type of DM and some bone-breaker type of CB ala Matrix who would terrify opponents so that them fuckers don't dare foul on Lautaro at all. There were many times when he was being bullied and nobody would guard him. I always thought Skriniar was the type of player who would protect his teammates, but he never seemed caring. With some protection, Lautaro would be able to produce a lot more.

I'm sorry but that's a bucket of bullshit.

First of all - the age of violent duels and casual impromptu violence is gone, for better or worse. There is no room for elbowing or shin kicking in modern football. The best CBs nowadays, the likes of VVD and Skriniar are surgical blades, not sledgehammers. Modern defending is about positioning and pinpoint accurate tackling of the ball. Materazzi would never last in this era, he would have to adapt very fast because not even Serie B clubs play murderball anymore.

Second of all, Lautaro is someone who simply loves to posture himself in such a way that resembles a jiu-jitsu fighter more than a footballer. He loves going to ground and embraces it too much and at this point it became a really bad habit that turned to muscle memory and it will be very difficult for him to change this.
The truth is simple - Lautaro has laughably poor physicality. He can't outnudge anyone, he can't push defenders out of his way. Unless the play is such that he already got the advantage in acceleration you can forget about it. Dude needs to hit the fucking gym and learn to stay on his feet. He doesn't have the pace, he needs to muscle up and honestly his current state is laughable when you consider that this is his fifth season in Italy now.

Go back and note how Alexis Sanchez used to successfully guard the ball, and his role and height are the same as Lautaro's. How come Alexis didn't need no defender to rough up players for him?

 

[NimAraya]

Materazzi did not even last in his own era. He was mostly a bench warmer in his last years here. He was error prone and violent even in his younger years, to the point that Mancini wanted him gone in 2005.

 

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Materazzi did not even last in his own era. He was mostly a bench warmer in his last years here. He was error prone and violent even in his younger years, to the point that Mancini wanted him gone in 2005.

He was a bench warmer in his last years because he was 37-38 years old.

Materazzi at his peak (around 2006-2007) is, no bias, absolutely one of the 5-10 best central defenders in the world.

 

[brehme1989]

He was a bench warmer in his last years because he was 37-38 years old.

Materazzi at his peak (around 2006-2007) is, no bias, absolutely one of the 5-10 best central defenders in the world.

In this era? No doubt.

Can defend (which most CBs now can't), can pass and can hit long balls and even shoot free kicks.
Definitely top 10, but maybe not top 5 as he's not fast enough at that age.

 

[NimAraya]

He was a bench warmer in his last years because he was 37-38 years old.

Materazzi at his peak (around 2006-2007) is, no bias, absolutely one of the 5-10 best central defenders in the world.

That's not what I remember of him, but each to his own.

 

[ADRossi]

Isn't Dybala always injured?

No, that's Lukaku.

 

[forzainter257]

The best CBs nowadays, the likes of VVD and Skriniar

I'm sorry, don't mean to be rude, but you already lost me here. I just can't agree with this statement, both are utterly overrated. For me, the best CB in the past 10 years has been Sergio Ramos and he is the best example of that brutal CB who always show up for his teammates whenever they get bullied. Skriniar is a nice dude, loved especially by FIF, but you don't win trophies with a cap like him.

I said you lost me there, but I will go ahead and respond to your opinion about Lautaro's physique. If you want Lautaro to build muscle, he will lose the natural abilities that make him the footballer he is today. There are many examples when technically gifted players decide to gain muscle weight and then lose the original qualities they have been excelling at since their childhood. Think of Coutinho or even Sanchez. They regressed partly because of growing unnecessary muscle size.