Lautaro Martinez

[n4l]

Don't forget. He was on vaca and his social media manager was posting those things okerface:

 

[ath]

I struggle to remember the last time he succesfuly passed a player with a dribble.

 

[Glass box]

Terrible. Completely disheartened, desoriented...Doesn't like to be here anymore and it's so obvious.

 

[Lui]

He's gonna be here for a long time. He sucks guys, accept it.

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[YoramG]

Eh, I'll remain patient. Lord knows we gave turds like Ranocchia enough time, this guy can have a bad half-season at 22.

 

[CafeCordoba]

we weren't negotiating to get rid of him: we were negotiating because we basically had no choice.

nowadays the bargaining power is mostly on the players' side: when they want to leave, they usually find a way. and understandably, clubs don't enjoy the idea of having a player with his mind elsewhere.

at the end of the day, if he stays (which at this point is likely) another season, it's because he only wants barca and they have no money at the moment.

This narrative has been created mostly in this forum. How we had no choice? We were open selling him to Barcelona, but Barcelona eventually found out we're not gonna go down with our demand and they simply cannot afford our demand. That's not "no choice". It was never going to be 110m€ release clause activated with pure cash, everyone knew it, and still we negotiated with Barcelona.

Like n4l put it well, how Lautaro should have acted not to get almost like hate of the people in this forum?

Keep scoring goals and assists? For a young player, cold streaks come and go. Even older players (strikers specially) cold streaks come and go. Lautaro had a hot streak in the autumn, after that, not so much. That's it, shouldn't qualify for this huge dislike over here.

edit. Today was again a poor performance by him. He badly needs some successful plays and simply goals.

 

[Universe]

Fans are fickle in general but many of you turned on the player quite easily

I don't think so. Even those who rate him very highly aren't blind to his deficiencies. When he plays badly, as he has recently, naturally the conversation is going to focus on those deficiencies. That's not "turning on him". And that goes without saying many people always had reservations about the player and didn't rate him all that highly to begin with.

I struggle to remember the last time he succesfuly passed a player with a dribble.

Individually, some of his traits, like his dribbling, are nothing special. He’s not fast, he can’t reliably beat his marker, his conversion rate is pretty average and I certainly wouldn’t call him an above-average finisher. Also, if I'm not mistaken, he's scored 3 and missed 3 of the 6 penalties he's taken for us, so we clearly can't consider him a great PK taker either.

Obviously, he does have some great attributes, his tenacity, anticipation and teamwork in particular - you can't teach those things. When he puts it all together, you have a fantastic modern striker. In that sense, he’s very much a “package” player. However, when he fails to put it together, for whatever reason, you see how weak certain parts of his game are when isolated and exposed.

Someone like Dzeko can blow hot and cold with his finishing. However, his hold-up play is always top notch, without exception. Even if his finishing greatly fluctuates, Dzeko is smart enough to keep it simple, and play to his strengths to help the team. That makes him always a valuable asset. On the other hand, when Lautaro is having an off-day, he's an utter detriment to the team. Taking stupid low-chance shots from tight angles, diving, fouling and in general losing the ball with every attempted play. Obviously Dzeko is vastly more experienced but Lautaro needs to learn to do the basics right when he's not on his A game.

 

[CafeCordoba]

We need to give some slack to Lautaro. He's 22 years old.

Conte had some good words about this. This is his first full season, he didn't play much last season. He isn't used to this level of load, clearly. Sanchez wasn't there for months last autumn, so Lautaro and Lukaku played all the time, literally every match.

 

[n4l]

Bro dzeko @ 22/23 vs dzeko @ 34 just not the same player. Don't do those comparisons.

Lm10 is still a young player fine tuning his game and we can just hope to continue to develop him.

 

[thatdude]

Exactly. People forget what players were like in their early twenties by the time they reach their early thirties. Basically only Messi and Ronaldo were world class from 20 till forever, and honestly you could argue whether Ronaldo was at 20.

Lewandowski, Suarez, Aubameyang, etc. most these guys were not the players people think of now in their early 20s.

 

[Pimpin]

Hard not to be, especially for an Argentine attacker

is this the secretary?

 

[RickyMaravilla'sRightFoot]

If he ends up staying, I'm sure he'll find his feet eventually. But I only want him if he commits to the project. If we're dealing with the same rumor mill again in December I'd rather just rip the bandaid off now and cash in.
I think all the hype probably got to his head a little bit. This rough patch should teach him that he still has a long way to go.

 

[FCBarca]

Yeah, you were a hundred percent correct when you said Lautaro would definitely join Barcelo--

oh, sorry.

Transfer window closed already?

 

[JJM]

Transfer window closed already?

Sorry we don't accept yer trash as payment

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[rfU]

Exactly. People forget what players were like in their early twenties by the time they reach their early thirties. Basically only Messi and Ronaldo were world class from 20 till forever, and honestly you could argue whether Ronaldo was at 20.

Lewandowski, Suarez, Aubameyang, etc. most these guys were not the players people think of now in their early 20s.

Dzeko at 22/23

I remember Pulisic's last season at Dortmund every touch, every dribble, every shot was godawful. He put in 100% effort every game but he just couldn't pull anything off. Shit happens some times.

 

[firmino]

i'm willing to put aside the market's saga and him being so absent minded, as long as he stays focused on Inter till the very last second he wears our shirt.

but there's also this problem: right now, he has fallen into a vicious circle, where the more he tries to score, the more he fails.

he needs to remain calm, and not be obsessed with scoring. assists and helping others score would be equally useful to the team.

 

[Gaindé]

i'm willing to put aside the market's saga and him being so absent minded, as long as he stays focused on Inter till the very last second he wears our shirt.

but there's also this problem: right now, he has fallen into a vicious circle, where the more he tries to score, the more he fails.

he needs to remain calm, and not be obsessed with scoring. assists and helping others score would be equally useful to the team.

This. There was plenty of games during the first half of the season, where he didn't score but was our best player. That's the Lautaro we need.

 

[varmin]

i'm willing to put aside the market's saga and him being so absent minded, as long as he stays focused on Inter till the very last second he wears our shirt.

but there's also this problem: right now, he has fallen into a vicious circle, where the more he tries to score, the more he fails.

he needs to remain calm, and not be obsessed with scoring. assists and helping others score would be equally useful to the team.

Do you talking about Lautaro? The same Lautaro, who tries to score by himself almost every ball he gets?
Anyway, he needs to work a lot on his passing. I didn't check the stats but looks like he fails to deliver a dangerous pass in something likе 90% of the situations.

 

[thatdude]

Dzeko at 22/23

I remember Pulisic's last season at Dortmund every touch, every dribble, every shot was godawful. He put in 100% effort every game but he just couldn't pull anything off. Shit happens some times.

Then Dzeko went to city and was benched by Balotelli and then Aguero.

 

[n4l]

It's not about goals scored. It's about overall play and being more efficient on the ball. Dzeko was very wasteful when he was younger. Now he is just much better on the ball; body positioning for holding up, decision making, efficieny and quality of his passes and shots etc. Its just significantly better than when he was younger.

Lautaro has highlight reel for goals scored already too yet we know he is pretty inefficient on the ball. Too many giveaways and not good decisions on the ball. For example, he has a great, great turn, yet too many times it doesn't work because he did it too early and did not read the defenders move properly. Stuff like that will get better over time (given good development)