Joao Cancelo

[monster09]

Lukaku sack Raiola tho

Don't think so. The new agency is for his marketing or something like that.

Even if he did, that's what I'm saying. If they think agent is not acting in players interest then they will change agent.

 

[chipschups]

Don't think so. The new agency is for his marketing or something like that.

Even if he did, that's what I'm saying. If they think agent is not acting in players interest then they will change agent.

Thats what we've been discussed in prev pages, if Cancelo somehow agree moves to wolves its only show how lack his ambition just agree with his agent interest. Even if valencia force to sell him due to ffp, he can say NO and wait for better club offer and let valencia find other way to ressolve the problem. Football player want to play at better place or bigger stages, no one dream playing for wolves, the only reason why he being total bitch to mendes maybd like those people say mendes had huge power over portuguese player and not too farfetched if he somehow possesed Moggi one who even able control the national team threathen Cannavaro to be left out if he didnt force inter to sell him for peanuts.

 

[monster09]

Thats what we've been discussed in prev pages, if Cancelo somehow agree moves to wolves its only show how lack his ambition just agree with his agent interest. Even if valencia force to sell him due to ffp, he can say NO and wait for better club offer and let valencia find other way to ressolve the problem. Football player want to play at better place or bigger stages, no one dream playing for wolves, the only reason why he being total bitch to mendes maybd like those people say mendes had huge power over portuguese player and not too farfetched if he somehow possesed Moggi one who even able control the national team threathen Cannavaro to be left out if he didnt force inter to sell him for peanuts.

No player dreams of playing for Monaco, Southampton, Shakhtar, Dortmund and many more smaller clubs (yeah Dortmund are bigger club), but sometimes players move to clubs where they feel they can improve and move to bigger clubs.

Same was said about Ruben Neves too when he moved to Championship, now so many clubs are interested in him. Bale rejected Manutd when they were winning leagues for fun and then moved to Spurs, move worked out so well that he ended up moving to Madrid. Sometimes players and agent think more than just next year.

Also don't Inter have problems with Valencia anyways? So it takes blind faith from player to reject moves so that Inter can somehow agree fee with Valencia. I haven't seen any good journalist reporting Inter's interest in dealing with Valencia.

 

[chipschups]

No player dreams of playing for Monaco, Southampton, Shakhtar, Dortmund and many more smaller clubs (yeah Dortmund are bigger club), but sometimes players move to clubs where they feel they can improve and move to bigger clubs.

Same was said about Ruben Neves too when he moved to Championship, now so many clubs are interested in him. Bale rejected Manutd when they were winning leagues for fun and then moved to Spurs, move worked out so well that he ended up moving to Madrid. Sometimes players and agent think more than just next year.

Also don't Inter have problems with Valencia anyways? So it takes blind faith from player to reject moves so that Inter can somehow agree fee with Valencia. I haven't seen any good journalist reporting Inter's interest in dealing with Valencia.

No one move from better league/team to Monaco, Shaktar, or Southampton, the only exception is Falcao who moves from Atletico on his peak to Monaco. You must be kidding comparing those clubs with Wolves, Monaco still top 4 in France league, Shaktar only buy bunch of kids from brazil and wishes some of them make the name but they still top on the league, lol Soton, its true No one want move to soton unless they are a wishing Liverpool will come to Sotonmart. Even still you cannot comparing those team with wolves, its like someone choose play for SPAL or Benevento in italy instead playing for Fiorentina or Atalanta, even if those things happen its only show player these days is no more than some mercenary. When I think about it again this is the era when someone like Oscar move to china because of money, crazy.

What was this talk about agent is a saint to a player, this is Mendes who lowkey working behind the scenes with Valencia and now Wolves. His only interest is making money not his client future, if he really care about the future of his player he will work like other normal agent had a fair auction from other club for their player not just moving around one player from club to another club he affiliated with just so he can involved on this grand money laundering schemes. Ofc inter had a problem with Valencia, after a month they act there are other tons who ready to pay 40mil even drag club like United, Juve or barca into this forced Inter do accept that 35mil price tag but at the end they use their trump card using mendes connection to made Wolves bid 40 mil and act like its a set price for him when basically no one willing pay that much for him. How is that fair for other club, when two club joined to set the price tag for the player, its like you come to auction and there is people who working together with the auctioner just to raise the price so the real buyer will offer loads of money more than the real price should be. And Cancelo in silent not helping the situation either..

 

[monster09]

No one move from better league/team to Monaco, Shaktar, or Southampton, the only exception is Falcao who moves from Atletico on his peak to Monaco. You must be kidding comparing those clubs with Wolves, Monaco still top 4 in France league, Shaktar only buy bunch of kids from brazil and wishes some of them make the name but they still top on the league, lol Soton, its true No one want move to soton unless they are a wishing Liverpool will come to Sotonmart. Even still you cannot comparing those team with wolves, its like someone choose play for SPAL or Benevento in italy instead playing for Fiorentina or Atalanta, even if those things happen its only show player these days is no more than some mercenary. When I think about it again this is the era when someone like Oscar move to china because of money, crazy.

What was this talk about agent is a saint to a player, this is Mendes who lowkey working behind the scenes with Valencia and now Wolves. His only interest is making money not his client future, if he really care about the future of his player he will work like other normal agent had a fair auction from other club for their player not just moving around one player from club to another club he affiliated with just so he can involved on this grand money laundering schemes. Ofc inter had a problem with Valencia, after a month they act there are other tons who ready to pay 40mil even drag club like United, Juve or barca into this forced Inter do accept that 35mil price tag but at the end they use their trump card using mendes connection to made Wolves bid 40 mil and act like its a set price for him when basically no one willing pay that much for him. How is that fair for other club, when two club joined to set the price tag for the player, its like you come to auction and there is people who working together with the auctioner just to raise the price so the real buyer will offer loads of money more than the real price should be. And Cancelo in silent not helping the situation either..

You are missing the point here, I didn't say Wolves are as big, I said no one dreams of playing for these clubs but they move to thee clubs for various reasons.

I don't get this "Mercenary" part, is he going to be paid insane wages? There is a very good chance he won't be, Also even if he gets big wages so what? Footballers move because of money, they play to make money. Very much doubt Wolves can pay more than Inter.


Also, didn't Valencia say no to Inter's proposal about the fee? Now from what I have read, Inter aren't even in the picture for the player, so why will he wait for the club which may or may not make the bid or agree the fee the Valencia?

Re bold part, not sure where you got that theory from. All we have seen is Inter haven't agreed fee with Valencia, Wolves are ready to pay big money for Cancelo.

Edit: Think you guys are way too harsh on the player, when the club didn't even agree fee with Valencia then there is nothing much to do.

 

[chipschups]

You are missing the point here, I didn't say Wolves are as big, I said no one dreams of playing for these clubs but they move to thee clubs for various reasons.

I don't get this "Mercenary" part, is he going to be paid insane wages? There is a very good chance he won't be, Also even if he gets big wages so what? Footballers move because of money, they play to make money. Very much doubt Wolves can pay more than Inter.


Also, didn't Valencia say no to Inter's proposal about the fee? Now from what I have read, Inter aren't even in the picture for the player, so why will he wait for the club which may or may not make the bid or agree the fee the Valencia?

Re bold part, not sure where you got that theory from. All we have seen is Inter haven't agreed fee with Valencia, Wolves are ready to pay big money for Cancelo.

Edit: Think you guys are way too harsh on the player, when the club didn't even agree fee with Valencia then there is nothing much to do.

Man, you supporting the richest club on the planet you never ever can related with our situation. inter have money, but not now and we are ready to spend 35 or even 40 mil but if Valencia extend the deadline until the start of next season, but what we got, a BIG NO from them eventho we already 'GIVING' them Kondogbia and Murillo for peanut and restore Cancelo and shaped him to be 40 mil player. Ofc both of club have a FFP problem, but again Valencia didnt gives a room for both club to negotiate as if their only way to save from FFP is selling Cancelo right away, eventho there is other way like selling other players or even copied what inter did when last year Inter get 50mil selling his entire primavera just to save from FFP if they didnt want to lost their star player.

 

[monster09]

Man, you supporting the richest club on the planet you never ever can related with our situation. inter have money, but not now and we are ready to spend 35 or even 40 mil but if Valencia extend the deadline until the start of next season, but what we got, a BIG NO from them eventho we already 'GIVING' them Kondogbia and Murillo for peanut and restore Cancelo and shaped him to be 40 mil player. Ofc both of club have a FFP problem, but again Valencia didnt gives a room for both club to negotiate as if their only way to save from FFP is selling Cancelo right away, eventho there is other way like selling other players or even copied what inter did when last year Inter get 50mil selling his entire primavera just to save from FFP if they didnt want to lost their star player.

I understand your point, but what can player do in this situation? He should go on a strike to push for Inter deal, which if both clubs don't agree on fee? It will backfire so badly for player.

 

[chipschups]

I understand your point, but what can player do in this situation? He should go on a strike to push for Inter deal, which if both clubs don't agree on fee? It will backfire so badly for player.

I myself not blaming Cancelo either, but when look at some people still put nonsense, "he loves inter and want to stay here but too bad he cant do anything" its just a complete BS. When on the same window Kdogbia and Jomario says loudly they didnt want play for us anymore and push their transfer himself, anything is possible if the player himself want it too.

 

[Javier Zanetti]

I understand your point, but what can player do in this situation? He should go on a strike to push for Inter deal, which if both clubs don't agree on fee? It will backfire so badly for player.

Worked nicely for Kondogbia, wouldn't mind that.

 

[monster09]

Worked nicely for Kondogbia, wouldn't mind that.

And if both clubs don't agree fee then face all the backlash from fans and coaches for a year? Looks very bad idea unless he really fell out with coach or something.

 

[Universe]

You are missing the point here, I didn't say Wolves are as big, I said no one dreams of playing for these clubs but they move to thee clubs for various reasons.

I don't get this "Mercenary" part, is he going to be paid insane wages? There is a very good chance he won't be, Also even if he gets big wages so what? Footballers move because of money, they play to make money. Very much doubt Wolves can pay more than Inter.


Also, didn't Valencia say no to Inter's proposal about the fee? Now from what I have read, Inter aren't even in the picture for the player, so why will he wait for the club which may or may not make the bid or agree the fee the Valencia?

Re bold part, not sure where you got that theory from. All we have seen is Inter haven't agreed fee with Valencia, Wolves are ready to pay big money for Cancelo.

Edit: Think you guys are way too harsh on the player, when the club didn't even agree fee with Valencia then there is nothing much to do.

Agreed. We have no indication that we've even re-bid for Cancelo. I could understand if he had two concrete offers on the table, one from us and one from wolves, with both offers having been given the green light by Valencia. But unless I've missed some info, we're nowhere near getting that green light from Valencia. Makes sense for Wolves to get in quickly, bid, and secure the player for themselves.

That's part of the frustration. We want to hear that we're doing everything possible to get Cancelo but instead all we're hearing is shit about Politano. Sure, as fans, we'll never be truly privy to all the negotiations that go on behind closed doors, but based on the rumour mill, it doesn't even seem like we're trying to buy Cancelo. And I mean really trying. Myself, and I'm sure many fans, feel that we should be trying, very fucking hard. Why? Because in 6 months he played better about a thousand times more impressively than any single full back in this squad since the days of Maicon. Because we know for a fact he can perform in this club, in this league. Because we've seen his quality and we know (based on the Dalbert experiment) that whoever is brought into replace him, will be a risk, not to mention costly.

But at the end of the day, what can Cancelo do if there is an attractive offer on the table for Wolverhampton which his agent is strongly endorsing while we shit around doing fucking nothing as usual, twiddling our thumbs thinking about mediocre Italian players like Verdi and Politano?

 

[PHM1605]

I myself not blaming Cancelo either, but when look at some people still put nonsense, "he loves inter and want to stay here but too bad he cant do anything" its just a complete BS. When on the same window Kdogbia and Jomario says loudly they didnt want play for us anymore and push their transfer himself, anything is possible if the player himself want it too.

Man you can't blame Cancelo for not doing the same unprofessional behavior. They have to respect who is paying their contract.

That's why Inter has all the right to fine Mario.

 

[Guz]

I don't understand how this mess can be Cancelo's fault when he's actually the least responsible. It's us who failed to hold up our part of the deal, so we can't really blame him for not wanting to fight his way back here...
The situation is pretty simple, at least from my point of view. There's a dude who hold all the aces (he's the player's agent and the puppet master for both Valencia and Wolves) who can solve several problems with a single move.

Valencia get rid of their FFP troubles by selling a player who wasn't even part of last season's roster. - Check
Wolves get a very competent FB whom could be sold for a capital gain in the future. - Check
Cancelo gets a new, richer contract and (presumably) the promise of a future move to a top team in PL. - Check
And Mendes gets to wet his beak in the process. - Check

Why should they care about Inter's interest, honestly?

 

[chipschups]

Man you can't blame Cancelo for not doing the same unprofessional behavior. They have to respect who is paying their contract.

That's why Inter has all the right to fine Mario.

I put it before

Here is two approach if he really want to play for inter, a soft way like Rafinha did how he keep hinting he wants to stay while wishing the negotiation going well between us and barca. Two a hard way like Joao Mario did saying he didnt want comeback since valencia and La Liga is a shithole and he only want play for inter. Stop saying BS he loves inter but cant do anything, he isnt 5 year old ffs.

He can still push the transfer on respective way like what Rafinha did, saying loud he wanna stay, and then his father also thiago nicely backing him up. Now Barca x Inter is in better state than Valencia x inter for Cancelo.

 

[Il Drago]

The only thing Cancelo had from Inter was a promise that Inter will try to sign him in July. So we basically asked him to reject any offer till the end of the month in the hope of Inter finding an agreement with Valencia. It would be admirable if he decided to do so but i can't really blame him if he doesn't.

 

[Universe]

The only thing Cancelo had from Inter was a promise that Inter will try to sign him in July. So we basically asked him to reject any offer till the end of the month in the hope of Inter finding an agreement with Valencia. It would be admirable if he decided to do so but i can't really blame him if he doesn't.

I'd like to believe even that much is true, but that sounds like one of those "Icardi is disappointed that no one from the club has come out to say he's not for sale" -type journalist inventions which would be practically impossible to confirm.

 

[Sassuolu]

Wow, although Wolves have an interesting project going on it has to be considered a step down for Joao.

 

[Devious]

Gone with the wind

 

[chipschups]

I don't understand how this mess can be Cancelo's fault when he's actually the least responsible. It's us who failed to hold up our part of the deal, so we can't really blame him for not wanting to fight his way back here...
The situation is pretty simple, at least from my point of view. There's a dude who hold all the aces (he's the player's agent and the puppet master for both Valencia and Wolves) who can solve several problems with a single move.

Valencia get rid of their FFP troubles by selling a player who wasn't even part of last season's roster. - Check
Wolves get a very competent FB whom could be sold for a capital gain in the future. - Check
Cancelo gets a new, richer contract and (presumably) the promise of a future move to a top team in PL. - Check
And Mendes gets to wet his beak in the process. - Check

Why should they care about Inter's interest, honestly?

lol this is Inter state right now, no one give a damn fuck to Inter not even Interisti itself. Its called a good manner, we helping them solving their FFP problem let them loan Murillo for 2 years with obligation to buy in lower price and then give them Kondogbia with only 25mil and let them pay for 4 year installment, we are doing everything for their favour but when we asked one thing, they say a BIG NO right away. After that they even still have a guts to asking LOAN for Eder and also want to buy Pinamonti but refuse when we want inserted buy back clause to it. Hope we wont dealing with them anymore in the future, thats Champions league fight should happen again in near future.

 

[Guz]

lol this is Inter state right now, no one give a damn fuck to Inter not even Interisti itself. Its called a good manner, we helping them solving their FFP problem let them loan Murillo for 2 years with obligation to buy in lower price and then give them Kondogbia with only 25mil and let them pay for 4 year installment, we are doing everything for their favour but when we asked one thing, they say a BIG NO right away. After that they even still have a guts to asking LOAN for Eder and also want to buy Pinamonti but refuse when we want inserted buy back clause to it. Hope we wont dealing with them anymore in the future, thats Champions league fight should happen again in near future.

Dude, you should try taking off your black & blue glasses for a moment here.
We didn't help anyone solve their FFP problems and, even if we did, it certainly wasn't out of charity. We made some business with them; if you think they ripped us off you should get mad at our management, not blame Valencia for our incompetence. So, I fail to see why they should feel obliged to help us out, especially when that would mean risking to breach their settlement with UEFA.
Look, we could have redeemed Cancelo and then sold one of our "big names" to balance the books (or even Cancelo himself just to make a quick capital gain), but we decided not to. You talk about good manners, but what you ask is for Valencia to shoot themselves on the foot.

The fact that we're all interisti here doesn't mean that we should circle jerk about Inter no matter what. At least, that's the way I see it.