Italian Serie A 2022/2023

Who wins the Scudetto?


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andrei

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Of course, you have to have a salary cap, but there is a difference between the salary cap of an owner with no ambition and an owner that has it. That's all i m talking about here. Milan as a club that has similar fans attendance and even better financial situation than inter CAN afford to pay bigger wages IF their owner wanted to, but they don't.
Let`s not hide behind the semantic with "ambitious owner", "sensitive owner", "owner who loves the club" to give a few examples which I read over the time. We know very well what lies behind. It`s how much the owner can stomach the losses a club makes. Marotta himself said in an interview, this was the modus operandi of the italian football over the years. At the end of every season the owner wrote a check and cover the losses from that fiscal year. This is the quintessence of the "ambition". The level of "ambition" is direct proportional with how sweet you are as a "sugar daddy". And Massimo, God blessed him, was the sweetest of all sugar daddies.

I could try an example. Let`s say someone buy Inter. He bring Morotta and Antonello and say: you have 3 years deal and 100m credit line for these 3 years. You can spend these 100m and what the club produces as you wish, but after 3 years I don`t want see any other debt. Can this hypothetical owner be considered ambitious enough? 100m over 3 years from his own money is enough?
 

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LOL so the italian gov signed a contract with the serie a for 10 mio so that serie a will be called serie A made in Italy out side of italy from now on...

For once i dont mind italian politicians being incompetent fucks...
On a more serious note who the fuck is ready to pay for this abomination of name.. Also do they think people abroad constantly confused serie a with the Serie a of other countries?
 
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LOL so the italian gov signed a contract with the serie a for 10 mio so that serie a will be called serie A made in Italy out side of italy from now on...

For once i dont mind italian politicians being incompetent fucks...
On a more serious note who the fuck is ready to pay for this abomination of name.. Also do they think people abroad constantly confused serie a with the Serie a of other countries?
No idea if relations with Brazil are bad, but that's the only one I can think of.
 

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Let`s not hide behind the semantic with "ambitious owner", "sensitive owner", "owner who loves the club" to give a few examples which I read over the time. We know very well what lies behind. It`s how much the owner can stomach the losses a club makes. Marotta himself said in an interview, this was the modus operandi of the italian football over the years. At the end of every season the owner wrote a check and cover the losses from that fiscal year. This is the quintessence of the "ambition". The level of "ambition" is direct proportional with how sweet you are as a "sugar daddy". And Massimo, God blessed him, was the sweetest of all sugar daddies.

I could try an example. Let`s say someone buy Inter. He bring Morotta and Antonello and say: you have 3 years deal and 100m credit line for these 3 years. You can spend these 100m and what the club produces as you wish, but after 3 years I don`t want see any other debt. Can this hypothetical owner be considered ambitious enough? 100m over 3 years from his own money is enough?
Arabian owner (and clubs) even throw hundred millions for just one mere footballer. it's safe to say they are ambitious enough. do they think gazillion of debt? i think not. Zanetti, Marotta Ausilio co should propose Inter to this arabian people to make them buy Inter. they are rich and they can build a real football project to make inter is the best in football globally.
 

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Arabian owner (and clubs) even throw hundred millions for just one mere footballer. it's safe to say they are ambitious enough. do they think gazillion of debt? i think not. Zanetti, Marotta Ausilio co should propose Inter to this arabian people to make them buy Inter. they are rich and they can build a real football project to make inter is the best in football globally.
I didn`t buy this either. Basically there are 3 clubs with arab owners (PSG, City and Newcastle). The first 2 were bought before 2010, roughly 15 years ago. Only Newcastle was acquired 2 years ago. If some arab billionaire wanted to buy us they would have done it already. There is no hint about this.

Serie A is dominated only by american fonds, where the profit and sustainability is everything and more than that. We will have sooner or later also american owners, most probably.
I don`t know if someone pointed that, but probably we and our cousins were the only relevant clubs in Europe with chinese owners. It`s related with the fact that Italy is the only country in EU who is member of the "Belt and Road initiative"? What I read is that Meloni want to step out from BRI. This could be the moment when Zhang receive the indication from CCP to sell Inter.
 

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I hope we stop hearing about the Italian Renaissance now that we've lost 3 of 3 finals this year and actually people accept Italian football needs a lot of investment
 

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3 italian teams at the final was actually good. the final itself determined by some detailed factor actually, like Lukaku bottled Di Marco's shoot, Lukaku bottled his shoot into the side of the net, Lautaro bottled his shoot straight into Ederson body etc.
 

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I hope we stop hearing about the Italian Renaissance now that we've lost 3 of 3 finals this year and actually people accept Italian football needs a lot of investment
Even if all three won, it still needs investment long term. These finals will mean more experience for the teams that played them going forward, but that's it.
 

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Even if all three won, it still needs investment long term. These finals will mean more experience for the teams that played them going forward, but that's it.
My point was that, some commentators were using the fact that 3 Italian clubs got to finals was a sign of a resurgent Italy, etc. In reality, we lost 2 of those finals to English clubs - does that (conversely) mean that England is better than Italy? Or the fact that we lost all 3 finals mean the Juve mentality has propagated throughout italy?
 

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Wouldn't draw any conclusions from such a small sample size.
 

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Relegation and promotion playoffs today, for anyone who can stomach watching another football match.
 

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Guess I'll watch it too. Can't be critical about either teams starting lineups though, don't know enough about them to care tbf. May the best team win!
 

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Better for the league if Verona win.
 

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Wow, nice goal.
 

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Could you elaborate, cause I know next to nothing on these two squads.
bigger fanbase, noisiest rivalries etc

Spezia is cool and all but there's not much room for growth there.
 
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