Inter's Financial Situation

[CafeCordoba]

Getting eBay and Paramount+ is indeed good, but the numbers could be bigger, specially Paramount+ deal which is fucking pathetic.

The point is there is not enough market for the spots in our kit ie. no competition. That's why we're getting these low ass offers. And the China argument kind of explains this. There are companies willing to sponsor but there isn't huge competition => lower prices.

 

[.h.]

Getting eBay and Paramount+ is indeed good, but the numbers could be bigger, specially Paramount+ deal which is fucking pathetic.

The point is there is not enough market for the spots in our kit ie. no competition. That's why we're getting these low ass offers. And the China argument kind of explains this. There are companies willing to sponsor but there isn't huge competition => lower prices.

I get it - and I dont entirely disagree with it - but I think its unfair to act like this is only a Suning/Zhang issue. It predates them quite significantly

 

[Corrode]

No. That's your sorry to state it this bluntly, stupid, take from what I said.

Because it's stupid, you're not ignorant.

You don't counter what I said with such a remark, you do some research to check the revenue streams of the time and compare them to that of other clubs...



China is in the bottom 5 of relevant countries that US business want to deal with. And probably in that region for European business, too.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's politics, not "racism" that you so much want to shout. No one has these issues with the Japanese or South Koreans...

yeah. maybe mr h forget the current world geopolitics right now? l

ike China companies and entities slowly relocated their business from Aussie, US, Canada, Italy to MENA countries, South Asia countries and ASEAN-Pacific countries.

 

[.h.]

yeah. maybe mr h forget the current world geopolitics right now? l

ike China companies and entities slowly relocated their business from Aussie, US, Canada, Italy to MENA countries, South Asia countries and ASEAN-Pacific countries.

to be blunt, that's kind of unrelated

they arent doing that for political pressure reasons

they're doing it because the west is a stale economy, decades of low growth, high regulation, etc. They're doing it because you can get growth in 2 years in India, or Indonesia, etc, that takes 10 years in Europe

They do it because more people live within 1500 km of China than outside of 1500km of china


Because in the time it took the UK to build one rail line across its capital city, China could lay down like something like 42000 km of high speed rail

 

[Adriano@10]

You're underestimating the number of business that don't want to be associated with doing business with the Chinese.

The fact that we're getting something from Paramount and Ebay is a good sign, but we need new owners if we're going to capitalize on that.

What they re all over there sucking the CCPs literal dick but they dont wanna go in business with the chinese give me a break...

 

[Adriano@10]

Getting eBay and Paramount+ is indeed good, but the numbers could be bigger, specially Paramount+ deal which is fucking pathetic.

The point is there is not enough market for the spots in our kit ie. no competition. That's why we're getting these low ass offers. And the China argument kind of explains this. There are companies willing to sponsor but there isn't huge competition => lower prices.

I hate to say this but comparing us to Jube and BBilan on a commercial base is probably not fair......
These two are the bigger international brands no doubt...

 

[brehme1989]

What they re all over there sucking the CCPs literal dick but they dont wanna go in business with the chinese give me a break...

The ones that want to enter or keep their Chinese market, sure.

Everyone else? Not really.
Anyone who doesn't have or want to gain anything from China avoids them like a plague

 

[.h.]

I hate to say this but comparing us to Jube and BBilan on a commercial base is probably not fair......
These two are the bigger international brands no doubt...

thats kinda the thing, and partly why our sponsorship revenues are worse. Dont get me wrong, i dont think it exsplains everything, our revenues should be higher than they are

 

[Pimpin]

No. That's your sorry to state it this bluntly, stupid, take from what I said.

Because it's stupid, you're not ignorant.

You don't counter what I said with such a remark, you do some research to check the revenue streams of the time and compare them to that of other clubs...



China is in the bottom 5 of relevant countries that US business want to deal with. And probably in that region for European business, too.

Sorry to disappoint you, but it's politics, not "racism" that you so much want to shout. No one has these issues with the Japanese or South Koreans...

Did they have issue with Indonesians as well? Or was it because Thohir had chinese ancestry?

 

[Pimpin]

What they re all over there sucking the CCPs literal dick but they dont wanna go in business with the chinese give me a break...

this 100000000000%

 

[brehme1989]

Did they have issue with Indonesians as well? Or was it because Thohir had chinese ancestry?

Thohir took an Inter side that was debt ridden and he sabotaged the sporting aspect (which attracts sponsors) for the sake of flipping the club by simply reducing costs to a huge degree.

No one wanted to associate their name with a failed sporting project. Same reason why Fiorentina cannot find sponsors at the size of Roma or Milan...

 

[Corrode]

Did they have issue with Indonesians as well? Or was it because Thohir had chinese ancestry?

because the current indonesia presidency increase their business, partnership, ties with Xi Jinping regime and China companies, ignore US and their companies.

 

[ADRossi]

Did they have issue with Indonesians as well? Or was it because Thohir had chinese ancestry?

All I know is that Indonesia is the second largest audience of INTER JECTIONS

 

[CafeCordoba]

Nike deal starts to make more sense.

According to this thread we have the merchandising back to ourselves (been since 2019 and is in this new deal aswell). So that Nike doesn't rake all the profits from the Inter merc. And apparently last season 22/23 we made 13m out of the merchandising.

 

[cloudq]

Looks like we're suing Zytara Labs/DigitalBits for our pound of flesh

 

[DARi0]

Looks like we're suing Zytara Labs/DigitalBits for our pound of flesh

Inter pursue legal action against DigitalBits​

Inter have presented a case to the Court of Milan against DigitalBits owners Zytara after they failed to pay the agreed sponsorship fee.

Calcio e Finanza details how the cryptocurrency platform was supposed to pay the Nerazzurri around €31.4m after an agreement was reached that saw them become the new main shirt sponsors. No money was ever paid and Inter ended the season with either no sponsor or Paramount+.

Inter were furious at the lost revenue and have now taken legal action against DigitalBits owners Zytara, presenting an injunction to the Court of Milan. This complaint now been accepted, and the next steps will soon take place.

Inter announced the ruling in a statement, saying: “The Court of Milan has issued the injunction as per our request and we are currently proceeding with the necessary steps to give adequate communication to the other party.”

Inter specified that the request of €31.4m was the sum of the €1.6m owed for the 2021-22 season and the €29.8m owed for the following campaign.

Roma also had a sponsorship agreement in place with DigitalBits and they too failed to receive payments, leading them to drop the sponsor as well.

Was waiting for this news. Now let's see if they have any money left by the time this trial finishes.... Or if the company will still exist by then

 

[Adriano@10]

The ones that want to enter or keep their Chinese market, sure.

Everyone else? Not really.
Anyone who doesn't have or want to gain anything from China avoids them like a plague

Yeah you can count the big corporations that could afford to sponsor Inter that dont want to enter china or have massive interests there on one hand

 

[brehme1989]

Yeah you can count the big corporations that could afford to sponsor Inter that dont want to enter china or have massive interests there on one hand

Care to name a few that could potentially be it?

And what other sporting sponsorships they've done in the last 2-3 years while you're at it.

 

[Adriano@10]

Care to name a few that could potentially be it?

And what other sporting sponsorships they've done in the last 2-3 years while you're at it.

? what do you mean could potentially be it? Potentially it could be any big corporation out there that has enough money...
Heck manu had team viewer as main sponsor.....
Also what the point of this? You said sponsors were avoiding us cause china i said BS...
Again most corporations that have money where they could sponsor us are already doing business with china...
Most companies that do shirt sponsorships could care less if the owner is chinese or not......
Like you think any of these airlines or betting sites gives two shits about wether the team is in chinese or in Italian hands?
Common now.

Like they are making deals with MBS the Quataris, UAE and Russian oligarchs but they wont do so with the chinese gimme a break...
SIde note i m aware that they sponsor themselfes more often then not but stil...

 

[brehme1989]

Note that I'm saying that we're not getting what we should be getting because of China, not that we cannot get someone like Spotify to sponsor us.

The difference is that you have two parties that set their terms. And there is a huge deviation between Zhang demands and what the market is willing to give them for Inter.

And that's because Inter has been bought to be a vehicle to enter the Chinese market or create an image in East Asia. So that's how they're rolling with whomever asks for exposure via Inter. Even if they're not in good terms anymore on a personal level, that's irrelevant to the "cause" of why Inter is here. On a personal level, it's still around because baby Zhang needs a toy to play and stay out of the real world stuff until his dad allows him to be.

For a number of reasons, we're not as attractive as we should be due to our ownership. I don't think that's outrageous to say. Obviously it's not narrowed down to where their operations are based, but it's a catalytic factor.
You are in a position to ask around and see for yourself that this is the case.