Inter's Financial Situation

[Corrode]

probably still accommodate with heavy amortization shit for Handanovic, Lazaro, Sensi, De Vrij, Correa, Dzeko, D'Ambrosio, Brazao and Males.

 

[.h.]

how much do we get for winning champions league and Copa Italia? That will fix our financial issues no? I read some place 300m for winning champions league but that sounds insanely high

If we finished top 4(looks very likely), Get to the CL final(very likely), and win Copa Italia(super likely) we get 100m. Which saves us from a big sale tho we really should still sell Onana, Lautaro to Man U or Chelsea if they come to us super desperate and with a stupid offer.

nowhere near that high

direct prize money is like +8m ontop of what you get for being in the final, so getting to the final and winning is like +23m. Our CL prize money for the season will be like +115m if we won it, but I assume that doesn't factor in TV revenue, commercial, and match day.

I'd guess probably if you include matchday would take us to 130-140mil, then commercial bonuses SHOULD be more but it wont be as much as we'd like with no main sponsor, maybe takes us to 150mil... TV its hard to say but maybe another (speculative) 10-30mil ontop of what we'd have made anyway?

All in, you'rep robably talking about an unexpected revenue surplus of about 100m for the season, offset 25mil for Digitalbits and you basically cancel out plusvalenza goals

 

[ADRossi]

probably still accommodate with heavy amortization shit for Handanovic, Brazao, Salcedo, Lazaro, Sensi, De Vrij, Correa, Dzeko, and D'Ambrosio.

Sensi and Correa are the only players on that list with any meaningful amortization left.

 

[crzdcolombian]

Sensi and Correa are the only players on that list with any meaningful amortization left.

bring back Sensi he is way better than Gags and could be a decent bench player

 

[Nerazzurri_Ninja]

bring back Sensi he is way better than Gags and could be a decent bench player

always liked sensi but considering he is glass and we cant afford any depth i think id rather we invested in a young promising talent

 

[PHM1605]

Sensi is not young anymore lol, and still struggling to grow enough muscles. Hard pass.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Yall make sure to count the extra 25e to Inter's revenue from my purchase of 2 match kits and a pair of Air Max 90 Black/Blue if we make it to the UCL Final.

 

[Besnik]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1658210615440056345

 

[NimAraya]

https://twitter.com/x/status/1658210615440056345

"But we needed to get ourselves eliminated from the competition soon, so we can focus on the league so we don't miss out on the CL next season so we can repeat the same pattern next season"...

 

[wera]

"But we needed to get ourselves eliminated from the competition soon, so we can focus on the league so we don't miss out on the CL next season so we can repeat the same pattern next season"...

I don't know if I said that on the forum, but I've absolutely said it in person when talking to my friends.
After last season, when at some point certain players stopped being good (Džeko, De Vrij,..) I got frustrated how weak we looked and how gassed we were. Even now we sometimes don't look like the same team in the second half, but last season it affected us more than this season. So I started saying that maybe we don't to play for Coppa, if we get City in CL, we'll finish our campaign sooner and we can focus on the league, ...


After that I remembered that we ended our CL campaign sooner last season and that it didn't really help all that much.


Moral of the story: fatigue is a real thing, but it also happens every season to all teams. You just have to play for every silverware you can, the players have their resolve and drive to win.... that's the most important thing. Winning mentality uber alles.

 

[brehme1989]

Situation will look a lot better if Italy implements a Flat Tax system in a few years. And of course if Suning isn't still around, at least not with this mentality and financial ability.

 

[Adriano@10]

Situation will look a lot better if Italy implements a Flat Tax system in a few years. And of course if Suning isn't still around, at least not with this mentality and financial ability.

The situation for whom exactly? Also not gonna happen.........
You know what would really make the situation a lot better even more than a change in tax code? If the fucken FIGC was not run like it was still the fucken 80s and Serie a would start to promote itselfe as an attractive league but no it s 2023 and for some fucken reason images i get on TV are a lot worse when the game is played in italy then any where else in the world and not in terms of quality but in terms of how fast a replay is played and how relevant said replay is...
It s fucken ridiculose..........
I wont even start with the FIGC s backwards thinking when they are selling out TV rights and these numbnuts rather go with a traditional brodcaster then a online one who offers them significantly more meanwhile the whole fucken league jumps on the Crypto band wagon i mean who the fuck did digi bits manage to get a serie a co operation?

Last but not least the fucken red tape surrounding stadiums it s untainable we all know it for atleast 15 years now and other than jube nobody gets to move forward...

There literally are 100 things that could be changed to make our situation better that are a lot easier to achieve then a change of the fucken tax code

 

[brehme1989]

Obviously but at least the tax thing isn't dependent on FIGC but it's something that'll be forced upon everybody

 

[.h.]

sorry, flat tax, go into more details please? Is that flat tax on income tax eg everyone pays 30%? Or do you mean global flat tax as in Google dont screw italy with royalty payments to google cayman islands?

 

[Adriano@10]

sorry, flat tax, go into more details please? Is that flat tax on income tax eg everyone pays 30%? Or do you mean global flat tax as in Google dont screw italy with royalty payments to google cayman islands?

I m guessing he means flat income tax... Like that would be the most obvious way inter inter profits a flat tax i doubt a flat tax on corporations would make any big difference for Inter...

My question is more why are you (brehme) so confident that this will happen... Knowing italy and being a voter in italy i dont think there is a chance in hell they ll pass a flat tax. I d also argue that the EU probably would have something to say about it if it happens.

 

[.h.]

I'd like to see the maths, but given a majority of income tax revenue comes from high earners (in the UK at least, AFAIK), flat tax of like 38% isnt that much better than the current system really. It'd save inter a few mil here and there but you'd make a lot of people worse off.

 

[brehme1989]

Flat income tax. Figures speculated are 15 to 23%.

They're already making some changes to the fiscal systems and obviously I'm not saying this is certain, they'll try to implement this in 2027 the earliest or something.

They've announced some measures to reduce corporate tax to 15%


But I'm saying that if this does happen, it'll help us reduce costs, as long as we don't shoot ourselves to the foot. We've already seen that this fiscal policy helped us import high quality players, it can only get better. And collectively, since domestic players will be cheaper and we don't really have to lose Serie A talent to other leagues.


@Adriano@10 this is more likely to happen than FIGC doing a proper job with anything. At least give me that

@.h. that's not all the math you need. A lot of stuff goes through the black market and cash only market and they want to incentivize people to report their spending and earning as the tax allegedly will be on what's left of your taxable income after expenses rather than just an assigned number based on revenue or salary.

I believe that untaxed money circulation in Italy is in the high 9 digits.

 

[.h.]

15% on 9 digits is >150m euros though

I've not looked at any of the studies or anything about this, but I suspect this is gonna be a quickly reversed disaster, or public debt is going to balloon. we'll see.

 

[ADRossi]

I'd like to see the maths, but given a majority of income tax revenue comes from high earners (in the UK at least, AFAIK), flat tax of like 38% isnt that much better than the current system really. It'd save inter a few mil here and there but you'd make a lot of people worse off.

Flat taxes are great if you're rich or a libertarian. They directly benefit a smaller portion of the population, and like you said, unless the government slashes spending (lol) it will just make a dire situation worse.

 

[Adriano@10]

.USER=162]@Adriano@10[/USER] this is more likely to happen than FIGC doing a proper job with anything. At least give me that


I believe that untaxed money circulation in Italy is in the high 9 digits.

I ll give you that as well as i give you that theres a huge amount of income/wealth in italy that should be taxd but never gets reported. Thing is my best guess is that people would still hide as much from the taxes as they can even if you lower the rate to 5%.
On top of that Italy is a perpetually broke country with crumbling infrastructure lowering taxes is the last thing this country needs.

Anyways i ll give you that most italians are probably greedy enough that they would agree to such a thing even if it mainly benefits the berlus and morattis of italy while the average citicen that relies on state services gets fucked.

Had multiple family members vote for Berlu just cause they knew they d save a couple of 1000 euros intaxes despite hating his guts.

15% on 9 digits is >150m euros though

I've not looked at any of the studies or anything about this, but I suspect this is gonna be a quickly reversed disaster, or public debt is going to balloon. we'll see.

Your obviously right and i think brehme knows this and he s talking strictly fotball/inter.
If the italian tax rate would go to even 25% we d save huug amounts on wages... or we d be capable to pay a lot more to our players while keeping spending the same.
As in we offred skriniar 6 which in current tax system would cost us 12 per year, with a 25% tax rate we could have offered him 8 and it would have only cost us some 10.6mos.....