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head up

Well its this kind of period and moment again that we've used to have before. loosing a game (total of 3) and start to think that we've lost the scudetto. sack this sack that, sell this sell that.

been with Inter since 1987. been there during the ups and down even being bashed from all over during our losses times.

let's take a look at the math scientific calculation:

38 games = 114 max possible points to grab for all wins
38 games = 76 max possible points to grab for 50% win and 50% losses

at Inter now, we are 5 points ahead from last year's position (13 pts) with majority draws and no losses. currently we have 6 wins and 3 losses already with 18 pts

with juve running perfect at 27 pts and milan 22 pts, and there are 29 more matches to go, seems that it's too early to say "bye bye scudetto" at the moment.

29 matches = 87 max possible points to grab. means that we still have the chance to catch the table leaders ONLY IF the players and coach have the RIGHT ATTITUDE and PASSION to win every ball game.

we can't just hoping that Juve or Milan to loose their game everytime without us even Trying to win some. scudetto isnt a gifted present from God. (unless the ref can be arranged)

let's look at the upcoming matches. how juve, milan and Inter are having. 5 matches can be decisive, juve can't surely win all the matches, too with milan. We already have our first 3 losses, it's about time for their turn.

just keep thinking positive until the math and logic say QUIT it for the season.

there is the 2nd calciomercato, hope that mancini realize that Inter had the MOST POINTS during the 2nd half last season. why can't he start it from the game againts samp

just an opinion to refresh you guys to move forward
 

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naah, i think we are disapointed with the loss but scudetto chase is still on, even in our mind and people at this forum....

roma players are disgrace, totti especially is a sissy..., touch him a bit and he feel down.. I hail veron for this... hopefully pizarro can do the task.... coz we need him to shine badly.... with figo hopefully his job becomes easier
 

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Yeh Totti dives, but so do Cruz and Figo.
 

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yeah, call me double standards but I don't mind our player doing it, Helal :p

:D
 

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why field ze maria in the right wing when solari is fit ? figo does most of his damages in the right wing, not the left, and solari is a natural left footer. so, i've been asking myself the question over and over... why is solari always a benchwarmer ?
 

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zuperman said:
why field ze maria in the right wing when solari is fit ? figo does most of his damages in the right wing, not the left, and solari is a natural left footer. so, i've been asking myself the question over and over... why is solari always a benchwarmer ?

Because apparently Solari was a happy bunny sitting on RM’s bench. Hence he probably is content with sitting on our bench while his account is getting bigger for every day.
It is however a good question one should ask Mr Mancini! Why playing Figo out of position (& please stop giving me the crap about he can play everywhere – just like a certain Stankovic) and Ze Maria on the right when Solari is match fit?

Too many questions, too many concerns over a bunch of over paid players!
 

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There is no way anyone can prove Solari is happy with sitting on the bench.If he is game Mancini will call upon him.It was the coaches decision.Why would he put him in the 90th minute when it was all done...

Can you imagine Mancini calling upon him and he replies back"no sorry i am fine on the bench"??!!

BTW Solari looked really good and aggressive in his last year with Real trying to prove the point that he is better than many of the starters.
 

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Ziyad said:
There is no way anyone can prove Solari is happy with sitting on the bench.If he is game Mancini will call upon him.It was the coaches decision.Why would he put him in the 90th minute when it was all done...

Can you imagine Mancini calling upon him and he replies back"no sorry i am fine on the bench"??!!

BTW Solari looked really good and aggressive in his last year with Real trying to prove the point that he is better than many of the starters.
By being happy on the bench I mainly had in mind the fact that he declined our offer 3 years ago for sitting on RM’s bench instead. He could have had a big role in Cuperman’s 4-4-2 system. Mainly as at time we were desperate for pure wingers. However Solari chose the stay in Madrid. If fit, I personally would have played him on the left and Figo on the right. I’m not sure what Mancini had in mind! :rolleyes:
 

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Re: head up

aquaism said:
38 games = 114 max possible points to grab for all wins
38 games = 76 max possible points to grab for 50% win and 50% losses
19 wins = 57 points, not 76.

We're still in pretty bad shape as opposed to Juventus. We're 9 points adrift and we have already lost our direct game with them. Therefore, at best, a win against Juventus in the return fixture will cut that lead to 6 points. However, remember that the direct matches involving Milan are still to be played out. At the rate Juventus are going, the only possible team that could pose a potential threat to them is Milan. But then again, Milan have no problem beating us as well.

Ciao,
Tim
 

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29 wins(our remaining games)=87

Damn you guys need Math tutoring!

P.S: You cannot get the championship with less than 22 victories...
 

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Keep your heads up... when J.Z returns we will be fine. I'm sure of it. We were undefeated last season in so many matches, and J.Z was in so many, wait, ALL, of those matches. When he comes back we will have the best right-back in the world in our team, and the player who loves the shirt most. That is a HUGE difference.

It's disappointing we are so far behind, but it's not over yet.
 

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I didn't see the game but I saw the highlights, and was puzzled by what I read here.

J Cesar was to blame? First goal is Matrix-Samuel's fault, second is the whole damn midfield and Mr. Materazzi for giving Totti the space he wants, and third was a PK. Yeah, let's repeat last year's mistakes, blame the GK for the defenders fault.

Not 100% it was a dive, I saw Materazzi appearing to step into Montella's foot. But Materazzi always does these stupid stuff, borderline tackles that punish the team. Reminds of me of his PK against Bulgaria with the NT

I thought Materazzi was improving, but he is still the same it seams in big games. Time to go back to the bench.

Mancini is proving again to be dumb. How can you play against a lone-forward who is known for speed rather than aerial abilities with two sweepers? Cordoba should've man-marked Montella with Samuel next to him, ZM/Burdisso should've been the RB.

Mancini will be patient, experimentative and be imaginative ONLY with his favourite players. He'd play Veron and Stan as wingers and try Veron with a playmaker. But he will never ever try and use Burdisso as a RB, at least not until now.

And then he gives Stan the chance to play LW consistently last year although he was bad. And now he won't do the same with Solari for whatever reason, I hope that Solari was seriously injured because Stan played a bit injured as a LW last year.

Finally, I hope the management gives him a talk. Stop being soft please, correct him before he thinks he can do whatever without consequences.

And oh yeah, did I mention back to the bench Materazzi?
 

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Hamed, I agree with you on the blaiming issue. It wasn't 100% his fault, but had Toldo played, that goal would have never existed. He was badly positioned and his arms are not long enough for a goalie. He must eject way too hard to reach a ball. I saw that in the Palermo game as well. He saved some, but conceded very silly goals, him and the defence. Last season it was mostly set-pieces and bad marking. Toldo and Cordoba were the only gus trying not to concede goals!
 

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SOrry but that was no penalty and Matrix isnt at fault for the second goal.If anything its the midfield that allowed such a ball to get up fast on the counter and also Cesare for being off his line when there were a few players infront of him..

I am not saying crucify Cesare cuz of one goal or even game but I wont do the same with Matrix when he isnt to blame.

All our midfield was too anxious to score too soon,they lacked patience and lost track of their defensive duties going upfront and we got stung,simple as that.
 

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I am Really Sick Of this squad We Only depend on one Person Adriano He Is a great Player this is a problem , Mancini tactics really sucks he plays with men in different positions e.g stanko and i dont know why he still plays with veron he is not a riquelme kind of player who can attack like hell and honestly i cant depend on this guy , Matrix Why ??? the guy cant play football + he is way to nervous to play in a great team
Any way My Name Is Moe My nickname is old but i sticked to it when i was a member of interforums.com R.I.P I Was Actually the first egyptian guy there and i am an inter fanatic but i believe now with this way of playing matches we will win only coppa and maybe super cup and this inter lacks ambition and the whole team depends on adriano so the guy have to go back in midfield to recieve the ball from midfielder who cant penetrate any midfield

who's with me on this ?
 

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No link from the mid to the offense you say? Maybe we should think about Cassano :crybaby: :D
 

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As you've probably heard I went to the S Siro to watch this game. It was incredible, so many chances and emotions.

I've only quickly flicked through some pages of this thread, but I've found some very inaccurate info.

The main one is saying that we played defensively, cause that's just pure baloney. Roma just gave up midfield and played on the counter for the whole game. They did it very well, and some of the passing was sublime, but they just used that tactic all along.

Roma players were extremely unfair by losing time simulating injuries, the keeper was waiting 5 minutes for every goal kick etc. When one of the Roma players went down and captain Chino put the ball out, the fans just destroyed him! I was the only one shouting Bravo Chino! since in my view he did what a good captain and fair player would do. Speaking about Chino, that's another inaccurate analysis many people did: he didn't play well at all! He was just out of it, some of the passing was good but he failed to make a big impact on the game. Deliveries on free-kicks were quite disappointing.

We didn't play well on the flanks, it's been pointed out by the Italian media that the loss of Stankovic and J Zanetti is forcing Mancini to play players not at the top of their form.

Once again it's Materazzi bashing season, too bad that Gazzetta gave him 6.5, while Cordoba got a 5. Cordoba himself claimed responsibility for the first goal. Materazzi made a save that basically was equal to scoring a goal.

Totti's goal was very good, and Adriano's was just out of this world, we just went crazy! The 2nd goal was also sweet since the keeper had been winding the fans up for the whole game.

I loved the players' spirit, especially Adriano and Veron encouraging the fans to cheer, and the Curva Nord was outstanding, they kept cheering the players even at 3-0.

It's a real shame that we couldn't score that equalizer, the ball just wouldn't go in. Anyway, we're Nerazzurri, we do not give up.
 

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Frisko said:
We didn't play well on the flanks, it's been pointed out by the Italian media that the loss of Stankovic and J Zanetti is forcing Mancini to play players not at the top of their form.

Hmm, not sure if I agree with them on that. Neither Stan nor JZ are good flanked players. JZ is awesome and all, but ZM is better as a flank player than him simply because of his crossing. JZ is great at penetrating in, and mostly from the midfield.

Same with Stan, he liked to cut in and abandon the flank. So I don't think our game on the flanks would've suffered if we played the right players in the right position.
 

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Hamed said:
Frisko said:
We didn't play well on the flanks, it's been pointed out by the Italian media that the loss of Stankovic and J Zanetti is forcing Mancini to play players not at the top of their form.

Hmm, not sure if I agree with them on that. Neither Stan nor JZ are good flanked players. JZ is awesome and all, but ZM is better as a flank player than him simply because of his crossing. JZ is great at penetrating in, and mostly from the midfield.

Same with Stan, he liked to cut in and abandon the flank. So I don't think our game on the flanks would've suffered if we played the right players in the right position.

blah blah blah blah hamed, missing such an inform stankovic wa a hugeeeeeee blow, let alone missing Zanetti and playing Ivan the lost little boy at RB
 

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I only talked about JZ on the flank, of couse we miss him on the defence.

About Stan, and how many times was he on form? I only recall two games.
 
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