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Because Moratti and his staff is dislike great defender.Ziyad said:
Moratti slam R.Carlos,Nesta,Chivu,Cannavaro. thank you moron owner!!!
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10 years of FIFVery dissapointing result. We could have easily won this match despite all our mistakes in defense.
It's one thing to be down a goal twice and come back, normally you'd be relieved and feel lucky to grab a point. But this case is different, we were obviously the more dangerous team and with a little more sense from Mancio we could have won it. The attacking scheme was obviously different as soon as Recoba and Martins came to the pitch. Both were connecting with each other quite well and were spark plugs. They were our only real source of attack that got any action inside the penalty box besides Adriano.
As soon as Recoba got moved to the left wing, he was running circles around Bonera. Stankovic and Van der Meyde both tried very hard and it would be unfair to say that they had poor performances, but they certainly could have done better. From Deki's point of view, he had a decent games and has done much better. Van der Meyde, he beat Potenza many times but his crossing was atrocious besides that lucky mis-timed header by Cannavaro that gifted Oba our first equalizer.
Seriously, we didn't deserve this poor result. It's so frustrating because we've dropped so many points we should have won. At this point I don't know what else to say but just be sad about our current sittuation. Once Mancini decides to bench Vieri and somehow fit Recoba and Martins on the line-up we'll be a force to be reckoned with.
It's one thing to be down a goal twice and come back, normally you'd be relieved and feel lucky to grab a point. But this case is different, we were obviously the more dangerous team and with a little more sense from Mancio we could have won it. The attacking scheme was obviously different as soon as Recoba and Martins came to the pitch. Both were connecting with each other quite well and were spark plugs. They were our only real source of attack that got any action inside the penalty box besides Adriano.
As soon as Recoba got moved to the left wing, he was running circles around Bonera. Stankovic and Van der Meyde both tried very hard and it would be unfair to say that they had poor performances, but they certainly could have done better. From Deki's point of view, he had a decent games and has done much better. Van der Meyde, he beat Potenza many times but his crossing was atrocious besides that lucky mis-timed header by Cannavaro that gifted Oba our first equalizer.
Seriously, we didn't deserve this poor result. It's so frustrating because we've dropped so many points we should have won. At this point I don't know what else to say but just be sad about our current sittuation. Once Mancini decides to bench Vieri and somehow fit Recoba and Martins on the line-up we'll be a force to be reckoned with.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFLets see if Vieri is benched or played next game...That will determine alot about what kind of coach Mancini is.
And if we still concede as many goals in the coming 3 games we can wave goodbye to anything...We have to adjust and balance between the attack and defence.
And if we still concede as many goals in the coming 3 games we can wave goodbye to anything...We have to adjust and balance between the attack and defence.
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With that amount of ball-possession, it goes beyond any logical reason for how we can not win this game.
Adriano had a really bad day, because he rarely passed at all. His so called partner Vieri was not even in the game. At least Adriano was noticable and did some great moves.
Two defensive phuck ups causes the goals. Cordoba and Favalli are at total blame for that.
Stankovic and Davids had poor days as well. Davids wasn´t too pleased about being subbed out, and he is emerging as a complete flop for a transfer.
And Il Capitano had the worst game I´ve ever seen with him.
We should have won this game.
Adriano had a really bad day, because he rarely passed at all. His so called partner Vieri was not even in the game. At least Adriano was noticable and did some great moves.
Two defensive phuck ups causes the goals. Cordoba and Favalli are at total blame for that.
Stankovic and Davids had poor days as well. Davids wasn´t too pleased about being subbed out, and he is emerging as a complete flop for a transfer.
And Il Capitano had the worst game I´ve ever seen with him.
We should have won this game.
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For god sake, plzz stop playing Vieri !! :cry2:
Just look at the way the game changed after Martins came in, even Recoba can do lot better. Vieir has saved our ass many times, but it's time to let other help Inter now. Don't put more and more pressure on Vieri, dear Mancini.
In my opinion, this game could had changed had we started the game with Martins or Recoba. And yeah, I watched this game (live)
I am damn dissappointed. Thank god Martins scored 2 goals to save us.
Our defence - ?? It's getting more and more worse. I won't mind if we play the duo of Cordoba -- Burdisso against Anderlecht, as I am still hoping on him. Cordoba did make a mistake, but it happens sometimes.
2-2, that's all what we could get.
FORZA INTER !!
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[size=24][color=blue]stanko hint at vieri[/color][/size]
MILAN - "We played out worst first half of the season, it was an off-day and we didn't do that much," admitted Nerazzurri midfielder Dejan Stankovic to Inter Channel after the 2-2 draw with Parma . "If we had played the whole match like the second part of the second half, things might have gone differently."
its like he is saying " if we have played without vieri in the first half like we did in (half of )the second one we would won the match"
MILAN - "We played out worst first half of the season, it was an off-day and we didn't do that much," admitted Nerazzurri midfielder Dejan Stankovic to Inter Channel after the 2-2 draw with Parma . "If we had played the whole match like the second part of the second half, things might have gone differently."
its like he is saying " if we have played without vieri in the first half like we did in (half of )the second one we would won the match"
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Frankly, from what i saw today, it is obvious Inter's problems will continue to compound if Mancini doesn't do something to fix the attacking lineup. Vieri was completely out of the game from the very start, and this had huge detrimental effects on the game as a whole - Adriano had to start deeper and instead of playing as one of 2 strikers, he was forced to play more of an attacking midfielder's role. As opposed to his performances in the last few games, this one seemed rather dull, but i have a feeling that he was relatively lifeless today because of the inactivity of his strike partner. And is it me or does Adriano look like he doesn't trust Vieri to do anything right? For Bobo's sake, he definitely needs to take some time off to get his focus back on track - starting him week in and week out may not produce the desired effect, particularly when confidence in him is so low. I have no doubt that a focused Vieri will be more than lethal, however, the situation now does not call for a player to regain that focus on the pitch. This will definitely bring about a breakdown in the final attack that we witnessed today.
For the most part, our midfield was moderately successful. Their attacking flair and creativity are some of the best i have ever seen from an Inter side. Davids was not at his best, but i don't see why he should be labelled a flop - i'm confident the man has still a lot to give to Inter before he can be decisively judged. What pleases me though, is the form of Van der Meyde. Like Adriano, he is riding high on morale at the moment, and his incisive runs were really devastating. However, he needs to work on his crossing, something which will make him a truly world class winger.
No doubt then that our real issues have to be settled with the defensive line, something we have all pointed to for weeks now. The appaling thing today was that even Cordoba wasn't playing at his best, and this resulted in several mistakes that did culminate in Parma's opening gol. It's one thing to have a great attacking force in the lineup, but it's another thing when the defence isn't going to backup your attacking forays with defensive steel.
What Mancini needs to do, is to start Martins or Recoba. The former has proven to be a bright spark in midfield. You can sense the enthusiasm bursting in him. Why contain such a bright young talent when Vieri looks so forlorn and dull? Drop the big names and start playing the ones that count! Vieri needs to take time off to bring his energies to a head; and until he regains his belief in himself, it's more prudent to start Martins over Vieri.
Ciao,
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For the most part, our midfield was moderately successful. Their attacking flair and creativity are some of the best i have ever seen from an Inter side. Davids was not at his best, but i don't see why he should be labelled a flop - i'm confident the man has still a lot to give to Inter before he can be decisively judged. What pleases me though, is the form of Van der Meyde. Like Adriano, he is riding high on morale at the moment, and his incisive runs were really devastating. However, he needs to work on his crossing, something which will make him a truly world class winger.
No doubt then that our real issues have to be settled with the defensive line, something we have all pointed to for weeks now. The appaling thing today was that even Cordoba wasn't playing at his best, and this resulted in several mistakes that did culminate in Parma's opening gol. It's one thing to have a great attacking force in the lineup, but it's another thing when the defence isn't going to backup your attacking forays with defensive steel.
What Mancini needs to do, is to start Martins or Recoba. The former has proven to be a bright spark in midfield. You can sense the enthusiasm bursting in him. Why contain such a bright young talent when Vieri looks so forlorn and dull? Drop the big names and start playing the ones that count! Vieri needs to take time off to bring his energies to a head; and until he regains his belief in himself, it's more prudent to start Martins over Vieri.
Ciao,
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FIF Special Ones10 years of FIFReading your post had a relieving effect on me Tim. I'm sure Mancio will finally give up Vieri and start Martins against Anderlech and Roma.
It's great to hear that V D Meyde is still doing well, I always believed in him.
What about Cordoba, was he so bad or was it just one mistake?
It's great to hear that V D Meyde is still doing well, I always believed in him.
What about Cordoba, was he so bad or was it just one mistake?
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It was just one mistake. But it´s a repetitive mistake. Both Materazzi and Cordoba have problems being in front of their marker inside the box. They keep trying wrestle the player instead of going more for the ball.
Morfeo was pissing me off so badly. He doesn´t seem to be able to know how to stand up.
Morfeo was pissing me off so badly. He doesn´t seem to be able to know how to stand up.
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Forum Supporter10 years of FIFSeems nobody here noticed the pen we should have had before the matrix miss?? The shot from veron had the parma defenders hand and then deflected to matrix when he missed. Dam ref waved play on.
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Well, Cordoba's one biggest mistake was allowing Gilardino that half volley which resulted in Parma's gol. However, i felt that Cordoba was below par the whole of the game. Suffice to say, we have all seen better of him in the past.Frisko said:
Cordoba is an important defender for Inter's plans, and he is definitely a crucial part of Inter's defensive lineup. I guess the whole defence is just suffering from a collective low, brought upon by individual mistakes made since the Serie A campaign started. It's quite possibly the first time since Cordoba & Materazzi played together that the defensive quartet isn't at it's most promising.
Worrying times ahead.. =/
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I am so glad that Oba got two goals :star: However, it is ridiculous that we got an equaliser and then conceeded straight away! It is obvious that we have problems in defence that need sorting out and hopefully Mancini will spend time working on this.
As for Vieri you kinda knew that once he was taken off we were gonna score. It seems to be the way things are going at the moment. He needs a goal so badly just to take the pressure off, maybe Mancini should start with another duo and try bringing Vieri on instead. I don't want to see Vieri sent out to pasture, but he really needs to get it together and get some goals - Come on Bobo I know you can score!
As for Vieri you kinda knew that once he was taken off we were gonna score. It seems to be the way things are going at the moment. He needs a goal so badly just to take the pressure off, maybe Mancini should start with another duo and try bringing Vieri on instead. I don't want to see Vieri sent out to pasture, but he really needs to get it together and get some goals - Come on Bobo I know you can score!
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well i donnoe wat to say..only that mancio pls fuckin wake the hell up..puttin in bobo from the start will always cost of the game..it keeps adi on the flank n with those wasted chances..its puts more pressure on us..also the goals we r letting in r not as bad as u guys r makin it out to be..yes we have leaked few goals..but with new players here n there,,that is bond to happen...especially when we r playing such an attacking 4 man midfield....also i think that bulldog davids should not be starting..e gave the ball away on numerous occasions n has been doin so the whole season..lets try turkish delight or hammer or cambiasso..i guess that by seein the way we have started the season.it looks as it will be another tropphless one..no way can we win anything this year..no way in hell..i would like to hear from ppl who think we would..omg!!pls morrati n mancio wake up..moratti pls sell the team n fuck off!!
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I could have watched this game live but I decided to go play tennis and catch the delayed 1.
Overall the first half was abysmal to watch. The side was lifeless, though luckily they kept the ball and had most of the possesion. Parma were really compact and played well as a team on the defensive end, making it hard to penetrate into their box.
Vieri was definately the poorest player on the pitch. He kept trying again and again to latch onto balls but he always seemed to try to hit things first time or just turn and shoot instead of trying to pass a defender to get into a better position.
The likes of Stankovic, Davids, and Veron were average though they kept good possession of the ball. Van der Meyde was definately the bright spot in the mid. He had some good runs, some ok crosses, and that nice pass that left 2 defenders dead in their tracks. Hopefully he continues to get starting time because he really is causing probs. If only he could cross better and finish the chances he gets.
The defence was ok. I think they did pretty well to guard against Parma's counters. Its a shame that Gilardino got lucky with that first goal. The 2nd goal was because of a defensive lapse. Like Mancini says it will take time for the defence to really play well. Though I think if the midfield pitches in then things should be alright.
Surprisingly Adriano wasn't really on fire today. He had a few chances but he either skyed them over the net or miss wide. He has a great shot but sometimes he justs try to blast shots at goal instead of taking defenders on. He also wasn't effective when he went to the wings. He should be moving more towards the middle, but because of the likes of Vieri he can't always do that.
Martins was definately the bright spot in this game. His first goal was lucky because the ball went over the GK and he just had to slot it in. The 2nd was nice though, rounding a defender then hitting it in the low right corner. Hopefully him scoring the brace and Vieri playing so poorly yet again will cause Mancini to drop Vieri and start Martins. If not then its only because Vieri is a favorite of Mancini, sorta like Helveg to Zac.
Recoba also deserves to start over Vieri. He has been one of the few guys who has scored this season and he is a great crosser, something that would definately bring out the great aerial game of Adriano.
So overall the side was average and I am definately expecting much more from them in the next few games.
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Overall the first half was abysmal to watch. The side was lifeless, though luckily they kept the ball and had most of the possesion. Parma were really compact and played well as a team on the defensive end, making it hard to penetrate into their box.
Vieri was definately the poorest player on the pitch. He kept trying again and again to latch onto balls but he always seemed to try to hit things first time or just turn and shoot instead of trying to pass a defender to get into a better position.
The likes of Stankovic, Davids, and Veron were average though they kept good possession of the ball. Van der Meyde was definately the bright spot in the mid. He had some good runs, some ok crosses, and that nice pass that left 2 defenders dead in their tracks. Hopefully he continues to get starting time because he really is causing probs. If only he could cross better and finish the chances he gets.
The defence was ok. I think they did pretty well to guard against Parma's counters. Its a shame that Gilardino got lucky with that first goal. The 2nd goal was because of a defensive lapse. Like Mancini says it will take time for the defence to really play well. Though I think if the midfield pitches in then things should be alright.
Surprisingly Adriano wasn't really on fire today. He had a few chances but he either skyed them over the net or miss wide. He has a great shot but sometimes he justs try to blast shots at goal instead of taking defenders on. He also wasn't effective when he went to the wings. He should be moving more towards the middle, but because of the likes of Vieri he can't always do that.
Martins was definately the bright spot in this game. His first goal was lucky because the ball went over the GK and he just had to slot it in. The 2nd was nice though, rounding a defender then hitting it in the low right corner. Hopefully him scoring the brace and Vieri playing so poorly yet again will cause Mancini to drop Vieri and start Martins. If not then its only because Vieri is a favorite of Mancini, sorta like Helveg to Zac.
Recoba also deserves to start over Vieri. He has been one of the few guys who has scored this season and he is a great crosser, something that would definately bring out the great aerial game of Adriano.
So overall the side was average and I am definately expecting much more from them in the next few games.
:star: Rich :star:
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10 years of FIFMy ratings:
Toldo - 6.0
It wasn't his mistake for the goals we conceded, and it's also hard for us to tell abt Toldo, coz of the shaky defence we have now.
J.Zanetti - 6.0
Kinda quiet game for our captain, compared to the way he can play.
Cordoba - 5.5
I guess, Cordoba is to be blamed for the first goal. Gilardino scored a great goal, coz of Cordo's mistake.
Materazzi - 5.5
Not bad, but not good either. I am still waiting for Burdisso, but I do respect Matrix though.
Favalli - 5.5
Our defence looks shaky and it's the same for our left back as well. No wonder, I am hoping for the LB spot to be occupied by J.Zanetti or Ze Maria.
V.Meyde - 7.5
What the hell is wrong with this guy ?? He's being consistent, and I am happy for him. He's doing really well, but he does have to improve on his crosses. If he improves on his crosses and performs consistently like the way he's doing, then we might find a new left back for us in J.Zanetti or Ze Maria. (as I stated above)
Davids - 6.0
Not bad, but not a good game yet. At times, he showed good moves, .... but he should be consistent enough. I won't mind Emre there, if Emre can act as DM, with the help of Veron.
Veron - 7.0
He's doing well, and I am very happy for him. It's not that he's playing perfect, but this kinda performance will do us more than great. He's doing his job very well. All he needs, is a ideal partner.
Stankovic - 6.5
As he said himself already, he didn't play that well. Hopefully, we will get to see the usual Stanko again on Wednesday.
Adriano - 6.5
I would blame Vieri for Adriano's performance. How can he alone do everything ? Martins or Recoba must start, instead of Vieri. Mancini, try to understand.
Vieri - 4
I have already said enough on Vieri. He needs to be rested. He will be on more and more pressure, if Mancini continues to start with him. Slow and steady wins the race.
Martins - 8
What a game. Came as a sub for Vieri and let us know that it's not only Adriano who scores goals for Inter. I am more than waiting for the duo Adriano -- Martins. It COULD had been a different game, has we started with this duo. Hoping to see him against Anderlecht and then ROMA (I meant this duo !!)
Recoba - 6.5
Didn't get to play that much, but I would still give him that rating, as he did quiet well. Came close to scoring couple of times. Martins or Recoba is a must... I repeat !! :fero:
Emre - ##
He played too less to rate him. But I want him to start, he can give alot to Inter.
Toldo - 6.0
It wasn't his mistake for the goals we conceded, and it's also hard for us to tell abt Toldo, coz of the shaky defence we have now.
J.Zanetti - 6.0
Kinda quiet game for our captain, compared to the way he can play.
Cordoba - 5.5
I guess, Cordoba is to be blamed for the first goal. Gilardino scored a great goal, coz of Cordo's mistake.
Materazzi - 5.5
Not bad, but not good either. I am still waiting for Burdisso, but I do respect Matrix though.
Favalli - 5.5
Our defence looks shaky and it's the same for our left back as well. No wonder, I am hoping for the LB spot to be occupied by J.Zanetti or Ze Maria.
V.Meyde - 7.5
What the hell is wrong with this guy ?? He's being consistent, and I am happy for him. He's doing really well, but he does have to improve on his crosses. If he improves on his crosses and performs consistently like the way he's doing, then we might find a new left back for us in J.Zanetti or Ze Maria. (as I stated above)
Davids - 6.0
Not bad, but not a good game yet. At times, he showed good moves, .... but he should be consistent enough. I won't mind Emre there, if Emre can act as DM, with the help of Veron.
Veron - 7.0
He's doing well, and I am very happy for him. It's not that he's playing perfect, but this kinda performance will do us more than great. He's doing his job very well. All he needs, is a ideal partner.
Stankovic - 6.5
As he said himself already, he didn't play that well. Hopefully, we will get to see the usual Stanko again on Wednesday.
Adriano - 6.5
I would blame Vieri for Adriano's performance. How can he alone do everything ? Martins or Recoba must start, instead of Vieri. Mancini, try to understand.
Vieri - 4
I have already said enough on Vieri. He needs to be rested. He will be on more and more pressure, if Mancini continues to start with him. Slow and steady wins the race.
Martins - 8
What a game. Came as a sub for Vieri and let us know that it's not only Adriano who scores goals for Inter. I am more than waiting for the duo Adriano -- Martins. It COULD had been a different game, has we started with this duo. Hoping to see him against Anderlecht and then ROMA (I meant this duo !!)
Recoba - 6.5
Didn't get to play that much, but I would still give him that rating, as he did quiet well. Came close to scoring couple of times. Martins or Recoba is a must... I repeat !! :fero:
Emre - ##
He played too less to rate him. But I want him to start, he can give alot to Inter.