Inter - Milan (EuroDerby II)

[Frisko]

If you ask me, when you screw up, you should have the balls to say sorry. This is very hard when you screw up against your city rivals.

Still, we are Inter fans, we're not Roma, Lazio or Juve scum. We should say it out loud, we don't do that kind of shit, and put some distance between us and the fans who used violence to stop a football game.

I really hope to see some banners underlining that tomorrow.

 

[Gismo]

Don´t expect any banners, Francesco.

Personally I will be furious if we start apologising for missing players with lighters and flares.

 

[Miki]

Some of you guys are posting stuff that are really absurd. First of all, i agree with every person here that Dida has the right to stay where he wants to.

He doesn't have to move away since Merk didn't blow his whistle.

He doesn't have to go if he doesn't want to.

He doesn't have to move away if he likes the design of his penalty box.

He doesn't have to move away if he likes the view of the Curva Sud from where he is standing.

He doesn't have to move away if he thinks he can save a 50 yard shot from Martins from where he is standing.

And he certainly doesn't have to move away when his life is in apparent danger.

Yeah. Who's the one who is foolishly brave enough to continue standing where he is despite the fact that he knew stuff was raining down? Why can't some of you admit that Dida had the chance to move away from the danger zone but continued to stay on despite knowing that there were stuff raining down all around him?! If anybody denies this statement, you are living in denial.

Some of you are so blind to the real circumstances of the incident, that you come across as though you are soooo happy to be kissing Dida's ass.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Hammoudi]

The guy was trying to go on with the game for the love of GOD.

How many times do games stop when objects are thrown? Rarely these days. Go back to the Roma -- Juve game, Zebina was getting stuff thrown at him, but he wanted to continue with the game. If players stop and hide under a commercial board everytime an object is thrown, then we should be playing hide and seek and not soccer.

I commend Dida for wanting to go on with the game. All say that he had ill intentions. But if I was Dida, I'd have wanted the game to continue on not stop and try and get injured. Now instead of the series being known for a super Dida, it'd be known for the flare.

 

[Frisko]

So Tim, you're saying Dida wanted to get hit. Let me see now, why would he do that...

Oh yes! To get a 3-0 win awarded by Uefa! Oh wait, they were 3-0 up already right?

Maybe he didn't want to taunt the Inter fans at the end of the game, or hurt their feelings, so he was looking for a way to end the game and run straight into the tunnel.

Who's living in denial Tim???

 

[Miki]

The difference between you & i Frisko, is that i am open to the possibility that Dida didn't want to move away for reasons other than those you have put forward. What about yourself?

I know i'm not denying any possibility. But you are.

Also, when will you people realize i am not saying that Dida had that intention without a shadow of a doubt. I am merely putting forward that possibility. However, all i have gotten from the both of you is a surefire NO response. How can either of you be so sure Dida had no ill intentions?! That's what i am trying to get across!

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Frisko]

But why Tim, why should he have done that?

The tie was in the bag for them. He had nothing to gain as far as the result was concerned.

He could have been seriously hurt, he has to play for the Scudetto and the CL semifinals are only 2 weeks away.

I just don't see a logical explanation for it.

 

[Milan23]

Guys I mean come on!!!!I mean which player wants to be hit by a flair???Dida was standing there cos its his job to defend the goal and the game was still on.He got hit not by his fault.DIda was just doing his job and I can't belive some of you still point the finger at Dida :wallbang:
As I saw here there are many objective guys and some less objective.
Well in order to prevent this from happening again I think that also the fans should be punish and not just the team.The team can't be responsible for the actions of some idiotic fans!So i say ban the curva nord, don't let them any more at the stadiums.And that goes for all fans that acted like the curva nord.But guys if you really look at it they say they love Inter but with their actions they just damaged the teams reputation.No self respected fan would do something to damage his club but the Curva did it.So my question iso they really love Inter?

 

[Miki]

But why Tim, why should he have done that?

The tie was in the bag for them. He had nothing to gain as far as the result was concerned.

He could have been seriously hurt, he has to play for the Scudetto and the CL semifinals are only 2 weeks away.

I just don't see a logical explanation for it.

Maybe he doesn't like Inter at all. In fact, maybe he hates us to the core and wants to see us get into deeper trouble since he knew that if he got hit by an object, the consequences for the club would be greater to bear. After all, he saw what happened to Anders Frisk and knew the very same thing could happen to Inter.

Things can be logical when you put passion into the mix. Dida could very well dislike Inter as much as you hate Juventus.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[CafeCordoba]

Miki, tell us your point. Yeah, everone saw that Dida didn't move to "clear waters" and he was stupid staying there cleaning stuff. But, in a football match, do player really have to assume that there might be raining stuff on you?

I'm having an understanding that some you guys are unbelievably accusing Dida for the accident. Is the accident Dida's fault when he walked there or the idiot's fault who threw the firecracker?

 

[Miki]

Guys I mean come on!!!!I mean which player wants to be hit by a flair???Dida was standing there cos its his job to defend the goal and the game was still on.He got hit not by his fault.DIda was just doing his job and I can't belive some of you still point the finger at Dida :wallbang:
As I saw here there are many objective guys and some less objective.
Well in order to prevent this from happening again I think that also the fans should be punish and not just the team.The team can't be responsible for the actions of some idiotic fans!So i say ban the curvas don't let them any more atthe stadiums.And that goes for fans that acted like the curva's.But guys if you really look at it they say they love Inter but with their actions they just damaged the teams reputation.No self respected fan would do something to damage his club but the Curva did it.So my question iso they really love Inter?

I am objective. I am completely open to all possibilities. But some of you think Dida is a saint and would never do anything contrary to the spirit of the game. Maybe you don't read the posts right, but nobody is completely blaming Dida for what happened. We are just merely putting forward the FACT that Dida had the chance to move out of his penalty box when he knew things were raining down. That way, Dida could have avoided being hit.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Miki]

Miki, tell us your point. Yeah, everone saw that Dida didn't move to "clear waters" and he was stupid staying there cleaning stuff. But, in a football match, do player really have to assume that there might be raining stuff on you?

He doesn't have to assume. HE KNOWS things are raining down on him. If you watch the match again, you can see loads of stuff already on the pitch before he even took got hit. If that's not a clear indication that things are falling from up high, then i don't know what Dida's thinking. Maybe he thought the ground decided to grow some bottles??

I'm having an understanding that some you guys are unbelievably accusing Dida for the accident. Is the accident Dida's fault when he walked there or the idiot's fault who threw the firecracker?

2 hands make a clap. Dida wouldn't have been hit if he had moved away, simple as that. The accident started with the Curva Nord and ended with Dida. Yes, the fans are to be blamed for throwing the flares first, but Dida didn't move away and that caused the accident to happen.

And for the freaking LAST TIME, nobody is saying Dida is completely at fault!!! Is it me or is everybody so keen to protect your beloved Dida that nobody reads the posts anymore?

Look, if a stone rain occurs and you decide to stand there and wait for the stones to hit you and lo and behold, they do rolleyes, then who is completely at fault for that? Is it God's fault? Mother nature's fault? Or are you partially to blame too for not moving away from the hail storm? Yeesh!

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Milan23]

Dida had the chance to move out of his penalty box when he knew things were raining down. That way, Dida could have avoided being hit.

Well yeah Dida could have avoided the flairs but man nobody thought that the Curva Nord will do that cos it has never happened before so Dida like everybody else was cought off guard.He thought it can not happen cos i guess he like most of us thought the curva nord are more civilized

 

[Milan23]

Look, if a stone rain occurs and you decide to stand there and wait for the stones to hit you and lo and behold, they do rolleyes, then who is completely at fault for that? Is it God's fault? Mother nature's fault? Or are you partially to blame too for not moving away from the hail storm? Yeesh!

Ciao,
Tim

:wallbang: :wallbang:

 

[Fabio]

Why is that? How old do you have to be to get a license in Singapore? And yeah, I will actually not come into contact with 10km of you, Fabio or Ashkan. "We didn't finish him, he just didn't move!!!" :dielaugh:

So that ruins my plan of going to visit you in Canada!

Fabio :cry2:

 

[Miki]

:wallbang: :wallbang:

What's that for? Are you implying that whatever i have said about Dida do not even contain a shred of possible truth? If you tell me right now and then that beyond any shadow of a doubt Dida is completely innocent, then i will stop arguing with you.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Miki]

Well yeah Dida could have avoided the flairs but man nobody thought that the Curva Nord will do that cos it has never happened before so Dida like everybody else was cought off guard.He thought it can not happen cos i guess he like most of us thought the curva nord are more civilized

CAUGHT OFF GUARD??? He was bending down to pick up a bottle when the flare hit him! Yeah, so he was caught off guard by the sudden increase in rubbish around his area huh? You must be kidding yourself!

I don't believe this, really. You're so desperate to protect Dida that you're resorting to this to make your point. Simply put, if Dida was stooping down to pick up a bottle that DID NOT belong there in the first place, then he is WELL AWARE that fans are throwing things. Moreover, it wasn't even one bottle. From 50 metres away on the camera, i could see loads of rubbish all over the place. And if Dida, within his own penalty box is unable to see the sudden increase of items that shouldn't be there, then he must be blind! Which doesn't offer a good point since he's such a good keeper. Therefore, he must be aware, not?

Caught off guard, my ass.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Hammoudi]

Well Miki, your theory could be right, everything is possible, their could be soccer on mars. But why on earth would he endanger his own health? Beats me. He isn't like a Milan legend or so, why would he hate inter. The guy is like a robot, he has no personality.

The only incident that I can recall about such an incident was back in 89. Maybe Frisko would remember it, it was South American qualification for WC90 between Brazil and Chile. Chile had a freaking goalie that time, and one heck of a striker by the name of Ivan Zamorano. Chile had to win the game to qualify, and it was being played in Brazil.

Anyway, this goalie was amazing. But he did a stupid thing. A girl from the crowd threw a flare and it came besides him. He rolled on the ground like Inzaghi and faked injury. His team withdrew from the game and wanted the point.

However, after investigations, it was proven he faked the injury and it was his intentions to get hurt and get the score to Chile's favourtie. Sadly, Chile were banned from WC for a long time and pity Zamorano who lost a great chance to be considered as a great player. Needless to say the goalie got a life-time ban, pity, he was magnificent.

So unless Dida is an idiot, he wouldn't mess with things like that. If he wanted to get injured, he would've done it in another way. It almost hit his eye, do you think he'd give his eye sight to get revenge on us? I don't think so.

 

[Zamat]

Ok. One question:

If you were standing there, in the penalty box, with flares, bottles, umbrellas, and all sort of stuff landing around you, would you have calmly walked around there, or pulled your ass out of there? Simple, huh?

 

[Fabio]

Ok. One question:

If you were standing there, in the penalty box, with flares, bottles, umbrellas, and all sort of stuff landing around you, would you have calmly walked around there, or pulled your ass out of there? Simple, huh?

So true

Ok, we shouldn't have thrown the flares - but if it gets to the situation where we are throwing flares, then your natural reaction to be "save yourself, not the game".

Fabio :dielaugh: