Inter - Milan (15 Oct 17) [3-2]

[wera]

daaang did not know that. Balkan crew rolls deep

That's how we do. I was in Korea's airspace like 24 hours ago too

 

[kameru]

We can Adapt, be like water my friend! :closeenough:

 

[Bluenine]

spalletti's are slightly better, but the numbers are basically the same.
good defense, possession, poor offense. some luck in the results

i think this team is better than that, and the coach is better, but the parallels are worrying.
that said, the good start that year was good enough for fourth place, even when the streak unraveled.
if we get 4th this year, i am satisfied

in fact, I actually think it is a great think that the parallel to that team is continuously made, as it keeps a loud monkey on their shoulders, and it emphasises that things can change dramatically very quickly, so hopefully they will give 110% to show that this time is different.

Spalletti and Mancini are very different coaches with almost opposite football styles. But they are both quality coaches (I know some disagree) and their approach to develop the team is similar - the old school Italian way. They both have focussed on organising the defence first and building from there. Which is why the results and "troll wins" look similar.

Mancini did this his way by a physical double pivot in the midfield to protect the defence, sacrificing creativity and attacks from the middle. Spalletti has done this his way by trying to keep the ball in the midfield and slowing down the game to protect his defence, again at the sacrifice of pace and unpredictability in attacks.

But I wouldn't worry about the parallels, because this is where the similarity ends. Like I said, they are very different coaches. Mancini relies more on individual quality upfront to break down stubborn defences, and at the time we could not afford to give him that. Even in the midfield/fullback which are critical for Mancio's system, we could not afford quality (or when we could, fucking Kia said no). That is partly why that season unraveled.

Now is different. Spalletti and Sabatini seem to be more in sync, Suning can afford far more than Thohir could, and we already have better players. But most importantly, Spalletti likes to develop a far more fluid attacking game which is based on movement and less dependent on individuality. As the team gets more comfortable with his style, Spalletti will slowly increase the pace of our game to make our attacks more threatening and unpredictable.

If we give Spalletti the 2 players he desperately needs in January, I think he can sustain our performances for a top 4 finish.

 

[qb4ever_2k]

Almost double in goals, 33% more in shots, half in goal conceded, 20% less shots conceded. But only slightly better than Mancini, right

 

[firmino]

numbers are better. but spalletti must work on the mentality now, that has to change. we conceded 1 goal to benevento and it suddenly looked like the players weren't in control of themselves anymore. we also have to thank the post for winning against that joke of a team...

 

[Quantum]

Nice post by Bluenine, but we need to improve, not sustain performances. Icardi has regressed to his old invisible self, Candreva is performing very poorly, we still haven't got the best out of João Mário and Valero, and our mighty defence allowed a goal by the worst attack in Serie A.

It's still early days and I trust Spalletti to get the best out of our slightly overrated players. Our current standing in the table should leave the coaching staff comfortable enough to work things out, but we have to admit we've been displaying a worrying brand of football lately, one that's not convincing or trustworthy.

 

[Adriano@10]

numbers are better. but spalletti must work on the mentality now, that has to change. we conceded 1 goal to benevento and it suddenly it looked like the players weren't in control of themselves anymore. we also have to thank the post for winning against that joke of a team...

But has he not already improved our mentality? Under Mancini and Poli once we conceded a goal the game was fucking done! We would lose it completely and more or less stop playing. Now we still se this effect but imho not half as strong as before.
Dont get me wrong mentality wise we are not where a big team should be but i think we are improving and we are moving in the right direction.

 

[kurt0411]

I want an honest opinion from you guys: do you think we will finish above Roma?

 

[Jane The Virgin]

But has he not already improved our mentality? Under Mancini and Poli once we conceded a goal the game was fucking done! We would lose it completely and more or less stop playing. Now we still se this effect but imho not half as strong as before.
Dont get me wrong mentality wise we are not where a big team should be but i think we are improving and we are moving in the right direction.

We can talk about mentality after our first lost game, or while we are having a bad spell. Cos sure as hell we are not winning all of our games and drawing some.

Season is long... we will have games where we play great and lose, just as we are winning while we play dogshit lately.

Also, those vidal rumors are up again

 

[qb4ever_2k]

I want an honest opinion from you guys: do you think we will finish above Roma?

I don't care if it's Roma, Napoli or Juve, anything less than 3rd place for this team with this coach is a failure.

 

[Harpsabu]

I don't care if it's Roma, Napoli or Juve, anything less than 3rd place for this team with this coach is a failure.

this team? this team has a LOT of weaknesses. Juve and Napoli are a level apart from us. Roma are still a better side. If we get into the top 3 Spalo will have done one hell of a job. I'll take 4th place, anything higher is a massive bonus

 

[qb4ever_2k]

this team? this team has a LOT of weaknesses. Juve and Napoli are a level apart from us. Roma are still a better side. If we get into the top 3 Spalo will have done one hell of a job. I'll take 4th place, anything higher is a massive bonus

Cut the excuses, every team has weaknesses, Roma even have more than us, Juan Jesus, Bruno Peres, average right wing, no back-up for Dzeko, aging De Rossi, Strootman and Florenzi's injury proneness just to name a few.

 

[firmino]

ironically, roma are still hugely benefiting from spalletti's work. i would sign for a fourth place, which is basically the same as second now.

 

[CoolMan44]

Cut the excuses, every team has weaknesses, Roma even have more than us, Juan Jesus, Bruno Peres, average right wing, no back-up for Dzeko, aging De Rossi, Strootman and Florenzi's injury proneness just to name a few.

But we have more weaknesses than Roma, which is the point. Yes, De Rossi is aging but so is Miranda and his backup is Ranocchia. B. Valero is aging. Roma still have better full-backs than we do even with B. Peres there. Strootman didn't miss that many games due to injuries last season. Their midfield has played together for quite some time and are much better. Their back-up for Dzeko is Schick.

 

[Jafaar]

I want an honest opinion from you guys: do you think we will finish above Roma?

Yes. I think it will end like this.

1. napoli
2. Jube
3. Inter
4. Roma
5. Lazio
6. Bbilan or Torino

 

[Harpsabu]

Cut the excuses, every team has weaknesses, Roma even have more than us, Juan Jesus, Bruno Peres, average right wing, no back-up for Dzeko, aging De Rossi, Strootman and Florenzi's injury proneness just to name a few.

In response to this just read Coolmans reply. I wish i had your view on Roma but I just don't see it. Plus they have a player like nianggolan who can decide a game in an instant. We have no players of that caliber. Their Defense is better, their midfield is miles ahead and our attack might just be better, might.

 

[JJM]

Perisic can decide a game in an instant,so can Icardi...tbh...when they are in form...lately...not so much in form

 

[ilbecca]

Perisic can decide a game in an instant,so can Icardi...tbh...when they are in form...lately...not so much in form

icardi is a phenomenal finisher, but he needs to be fed the right balls, he is not the player who does it all by himself. perisic could do it occasionally.

i was hoping joao mario would be the man, but he seems to have regressed a bit and i can't understand how anyone at that level can have such a poor shot/finishing.

i think that juve and napoli are at another level and at the moment we cannot touch them. On paper Roma is superior to us,but it's Roma and so you know some drama will ensue eventually, so that might impact their season.
as things stand now, we will be jousting with Lazio (and AC if they solve their issues) for that 4th spot, possibly third if Roma underperforms.

thinks could (and hopefully will) change significantly in january IF Suning open the vaults and we can add the couple of players we still need to balance the team. Also, I am curious to see the impact of Cancelo. Dalbert so far has been the biggest disappointment of the season for me (i had very high hopes). i am sure he will improve, but i am not optimistic anymore on what his ceiling can be.

 

[JJM]

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Karameloh seems the most gifted/talented player we got...tbh...I'm talking talent(like potential) not the best in actual quality...not yet

I hope he gets more time soon to show it

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Man... everyone needs to chill the fuck down with this pedophile loving shit. Easy with the youngster worshiping. They are still kids. Think of a 18/19 year old you know, and the way you treat them. They are kids.

Enough with this jinx/pedo_love bs.

Karamoah being the most talented.
The belgian youngster our next captain...
Skrinar already better than bonucci.

Just chill. Mega chill.