Inter - Fiorentina (26 Sept 20) [4-3]

[ElDuccio]

great emotions, in the most classic pazza Inter fashion. needless to say, if we always played like this it would be very hard to even qualify for champions league.

why? with this mentality you win trophys. If youre talking about the defence, yes. But what do you expect if you play with Dambro and Kolarov CB?

 

[brehme1989]

why? with this mentality you win trophys. If youre talking about the defence, yes. But what do you expect if you play with Dambro and Kolarov CB?

To not want to play D'Ambrosio and Kolarov as center backs, even if they're out wide. Yet the coach wants to do that.

 

[Jane The Virgin]

Maybe is the lack of games I follow outside of Inter or just plain stupid ignorance, but I always thought Kolarov is a full back and to play him in a three men defense as one of the three central defenders was like asking Bolt to compete in swimming.

I thought we are getting him as one of the guys in the midfield of 5. You know, like Candreva.

Not in a million years I'd expect him as a central defender.

Which brings me to, the goals conceded - a lot to do with our three guys in the back. No way around it, and Handa of course, he either has motm performance or a bleh one.


It's the first game so it's not fair to criticize a lot, but some players will always remain the same. No matter how many trophies or experience they got elsewhere.

I expected much more from Eriksen, it's a pity when players enter the try hard mode, a lot of mistakes and insecurities happen. We saw that happen to Lautaro when he joined.

I hope to never see Kolarov as one of the CBs. And I hope to never see Dambro as a starting CB.

 

[ElDuccio]

To not want to play D'Ambrosio and Kolarov as center backs, even if they're out wide. Yet the coach wants to do that.

i doubt he will do da that again, it's suicide

 

[Il Drago]

i doubt he will do da that again, it's suicide

But these are the roles they're going to play in the squad. It's next to impossible to expect Skriniar, De Vrij and Bastoni won't miss a single game. That's why we need to bring in another cb regardless what happens with Skriniar.

 

[IRR26]

I have a bad feeling of this defence line

Kolarov Bastoni D'Ambrosio.

Kolarov has never been good defending

Bastoni has only good half a season and no experience of central CB

D'Ambrosio is ok, but many times too weak

It was too easy to predict trouble. :work:

 

[Bluenine]

To not want to play D'Ambrosio and Kolarov as center backs, even if they're out wide. Yet the coach wants to do that.

Last season D'Ambrosio did well at RCB whenever he played there. The problem yesterday was playing both D'Ambrosio and Kolarov as wide CBs at the same time, on a day when De Vrij is missing and Bastoni is playing at the center for the first time. Conte went too far with experimental shit. If he had played Skriniar or even Ranocchia at central CB with Bastoni at LCB, I am sure it would have been ok.

 

[Javier'sSon]

I don't know, great 3 points and all but even after a crazy last period of the game and a great comeback I was still left, how can I put it? Not that bothered really. Yeah, kudos to the boys specially Sensi and Sanchez but it just felt like more of the players individual efforts than anything else (opposition incompetence as well), and on the other side what got us in that hole in the first place was Conte's bizarre starting-11 and him not wanting Skriniar, allegedly, and his boring ass tactics.

 

[Bluenine]

I know what you mean. Fiorentina lacked the quality to pull the trigger. If we were against a top team instead yesterday, we would have got hammered.

 

[Luka]

Great observation, except for Vidal part. What I saw both Vidal and Nainggolan a.k.a the gangster team only provide muscles. They basically doing nothing in terms of attacking building, unlike Broz and Barella who were doing pretty well in moving the ball. Perhaps Vidal-barella or Nainggolan-Broz as double pivot will be more balance and complementary to support Sensi/Eriksen.

In terms of defending, it was shit but understandable because we were really offensive. Thats what you get if you deploy 2 wb as side CB. even the center CB is a side CB like Bastoni who is a bit more offensive. Like you said, Conte admitted this that we were not balanced so he knows this is something needs to be work on.

Once Sensi coming in, I immediately had flashback to how silky he was in the ball. So effortless and tricky. I think many people here would agree if Eriksen should be benched for him.

Very thoughtful post.

With Vidal, I can agree it wasn't a monstorous performance, but I saw Vidal under game a lot there, giving instructions to others and hardly making misspasses. Something I expected from such influential and charismatic midfielder. He will never be a Brozo in terms of ball distribution, but if Conte thinks of playing with Eriksen/Sensi, I think Conte doesn't need him to be.

Only time will tell, but I think Vidal will be very important to us in the next year or two.

 

[Harpsabu]

I don't know, great 3 points and all but even after a crazy last period of the game and a great comeback I was still left, how can I put it? Not that bothered really. Yeah, kudos to the boys specially Sensi and Sanchez but it just felt like more of the players individual efforts than anything else (opposition incompetence as well), and on the other side what got us in that hole in the first place was Conte's bizarre starting-11 and him not wanting Skriniar, allegedly, and his boring ass tactics.

His boring tactic!? We scored the most inter goals in a season last year and 4 last night. How is it boring? Lol we were actually easy on the eye again.

I thought we were by far and away the better team last night. We bossed the game but got caught on counters.

 

[Luka]

Last season D'Ambrosio did well at RCB whenever he played there. The problem yesterday was playing both D'Ambrosio and Kolarov as wide CBs at the same time, on a day when De Vrij is missing and Bastoni is playing at the center for the first time. Conte went too far with experimental shit. If he had played Skriniar or even Ranocchia at central CB with Bastoni at LCB, I am sure it would have been ok.

That's also something worth exploring. I mean if with this defense (like you've mentioned Kolarov doing those mistakes, Bastoni not so accustomed to CB and Dambrosio on the right) playing so high and with so offensive game, we still managed to get so many chances to score and win in the end, then I can only look forward to what we'll do with our first string defense. Yesterday we played literally 3rd, 4th and 5th defender, with 3rd playing not in his normal position. What will happen with 1st, 2nd and 3rs, all playing in their spot?

I think it's something to look forward to and not panic over one game with those circumstances.

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His boring tactic!? We scored the most inter goals in a season last year and 4 last night.

Isn't it ironic? Even the numbers don't convince people. We had the best defense last year and we scored the most Inter goals in a season. Yet people still think the formation that helped achieve all of that (352 / 3412) is like the abomination and want to scrap that in a second.

I mean, it's amazing and baffling at the same time.

I think these stats have to be brought up over and over again because if we judge us based on the posts alone here, we would think we had the worst year number wise last year.

 

[Harpsabu]

That's also something worth exploring. I mean if with this defense (like you've mentioned Kolarov doing those mistakes, Bastoni not so accustomed to CB and Dambrosio on the right) playing so high and with so offensive game, we still managed to get so many chances to score and win in the end, then I can only look forward to what we'll do with our first string defense. Yesterday we played literally 3rd, 4th and 5th defender, with 3rd playing not in his normal position. What will happen with 1st, 2nd and 3rs, all playing in their spot?

I think it's something to look forward to and not panic over one game with those circumstances.

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Isn't it ironic? Even the numbers don't convince people. We had the best defense last year and we scored the most Inter goals in a season. Yet people still think the formation that helped achieve all of that (352 / 3412) is like the abomination and want to scrap that in a second.

I mean, it's amazing and baffling at the same time.

I think these stats have to be brought up over and over again because if we judge us based on the posts alone here, we would think we had the worst year number wise last year.

Honestly I think people just look at 3 at the back and think boring. It's like mentioning serie a to someone who watches only epl and they think boring, old, slow etc. One of the old stereotypes.

 

[javier_zanetti <3]

We need to score at least 3 goals to win this one.

Predictable.

 

[Javier'sSon]

I think it's boring becuase of the over-reliance on the wing backs (funny when for the first time we had a very good one he doesn't even start because a new league means a new sphere) and the amount of back passes they do because there are no openings which is due to that same fuckin tactic. Playing through the middle is taboo when we most def have the quality in midfield to do so. Lastly, the CB(s) pass to Lukaku to hold up the ball and lay it to someone (mostly the right wingback) to activate an attacking move, which is sadly an often tactic we use for our offensive game. Don't think it's that outlandish to think they're boring, to me. And notice how I said boring and not ineffective or the sort.

 

[Harpsabu]

I think it's boring becuase of the over-reliance on the wing backs (funny when for the first time we had a very good one he doesn't even start because a new league means a new sphere) and the amount of back passes they do because there are no openings which is due to that same fuckin tactic. Playing through the middle is taboo when we most def have the quality in midfield to do so. Lastly, the CB(s) pass to Lukaku to hold up the ball and lay it to someone (mostly the right wingback) to activate an attacking move, which is sadly an often tactic we use for our offensive game. Don't think it's that outlandish to think they're boring, to me. And notice how I said boring and not ineffective or the sort.

Well, if that's your opinion that's fair enough. Honestly I disagree with a lot of it, I would say we play through the middle now more than a lot of previous seasons with the said lukaku strat.

I do find the long ball to lukaku funny, but damn it is effective as you say.

 

[Luka]

Well, if that's your opinion that's fair enough. Honestly I disagree with a lot of it, I would say we play through the middle now more than a lot of previous seasons with the said lukaku strat.

I would say the same thing. People sometimes think that if we switched to 4312 or 4231 or 433 we would magically play like Barcelona '10 with open passes everywhere. Do people have such a bad memory? We played with spal with 4231 and he was even more stubborn than Conte and also the gameplay there often was lackluster. We didn't have any avenues opened, both our wingbacks were covered and our gameplay was often from striker passing all the way back to goalie.

As to the long ball discussion, I would say we don't use long ball tactic at all. That tactic means you play it constantly, almost every other pass goes from defender to tall striker. We played like that sometimes due to the way some games went horribly wrong, but we play short and those long balls to Lukaku are mostly from wingbacks or side defenders and they happen only when we are under high pressure and it's the way to bypass that pressing of oppnents, and it's God damn very effective. It would be idiotic to stop using that as long as it's not the way we play through 90 minutes, but only as a solution to some portions of the game.

 

[firmino]

you admins can unlock the benevento-Inter thread now... kick-off time is 18.00 italian time (which also means the countdown on the home page needs fixing).

 

[Jagger]

Imagine playing Bayern in Supercup final with this defence

 

[Sawyer]

Imagine playing Bayern in Supercup final with this defence

I hear what you're saying but their aint many defences that can contain that monster of an attack.