Hector Cuper
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Handoyo please don't say that. Its almost as bad as when people call Recoba inconsistent. Coaches get credit when they make the team play to its potential
Not play way way under its potential and steal games time after time defying the odds.
Anyway like I said before, In another lifetime things could be so different but obviously they weren't so you just have to use your imagination. That squad could of been something else. Dominating the SerieA In my opinion though.
Not play way way under its potential and steal games time after time defying the odds.
Anyway like I said before, In another lifetime things could be so different but obviously they weren't so you just have to use your imagination. That squad could of been something else. Dominating the SerieA In my opinion though.
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Most Important MemberLook, Faisal. I don't know how in God's name do you get the idea that Cuper is not playing the squad to its potential.
Do you know how did we do before Cuper came? We s*cked monkey balls and Parma, Fiorentina & Milan had us for their breakfasts! Cuper came, install stability & consistency to the squad with just a little reinforcements and he came just one hour to winning the Scudetto. Had Cuper used a more offensive style but still achieve the same result, I'm sure he'll be hailed as a great coach. But the fact is, results are what matters most for Interisti and he got it, although it wasn't enough.l
Jimmy posted the Inter line-up for season 01/02 and I dare you to say that ours was better than Roma's, Juve's and Milan's line-up that season.
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Do you know how did we do before Cuper came? We s*cked monkey balls and Parma, Fiorentina & Milan had us for their breakfasts! Cuper came, install stability & consistency to the squad with just a little reinforcements and he came just one hour to winning the Scudetto. Had Cuper used a more offensive style but still achieve the same result, I'm sure he'll be hailed as a great coach. But the fact is, results are what matters most for Interisti and he got it, although it wasn't enough.l
Jimmy posted the Inter line-up for season 01/02 and I dare you to say that ours was better than Roma's, Juve's and Milan's line-up that season.
Thank you.
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10 years of FIFI respect Cuper alot, for all what he gave to us .... Inter used to be like a circus ground before his arrival. Yeah, his team played bad football but did he gets the players he wanted ?? Ofcourse, I do admit that his team played defensive games with long balls, but still we did better under him. And now, we are doing more better. He brought the right envirnoment and taught the players some kinda manners.
At the end he had to go, but still I still respect Cuper :stuckup:
At the end he had to go, but still I still respect Cuper :stuckup:
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Just so that you can't say that I hate Cuper, I'm posting this. I do not discuss Hector Cuper as a person or a human being I just highlight his mistakes as a coach. Anyway, here are some excerpts from the interview he gave to Corriere dello Sport:
"INTER, AVENGE ME!" (the headline)
"Milan eliminated us but they did not deserve it, this time we can kick them out and win the whole thing."
"We were very calm but it was one hell of a game. I felt really bad after that but the Scudetto lost on the 5th of May tops it."
"I have most confidence in Vieri, but in the end the team will be tha most important."
"For all I have suffered with and for Inter and for all Inter and Inter fans gave me, I can do no else other then be an Inter fan. Besides, there are still a lot of great people there with whom I spent some great moments."
"INTER, AVENGE ME!" (the headline)
"Milan eliminated us but they did not deserve it, this time we can kick them out and win the whole thing."
"We were very calm but it was one hell of a game. I felt really bad after that but the Scudetto lost on the 5th of May tops it."
"I have most confidence in Vieri, but in the end the team will be tha most important."
"For all I have suffered with and for Inter and for all Inter and Inter fans gave me, I can do no else other then be an Inter fan. Besides, there are still a lot of great people there with whom I spent some great moments."
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Is that a recent interview?
Also Milos, Lazio can use Hector Cuper. He will restore them to respectability with the squad that you have. It has all the elements of a Cuper squad, enough of Caso's and Papadouplo's!!!
Also Milos, Lazio can use Hector Cuper. He will restore them to respectability with the squad that you have. It has all the elements of a Cuper squad, enough of Caso's and Papadouplo's!!!
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Yes, the interview is from today. It speaks about the upcoming CL clash with Milan and the one 2 years ago.
And we are quite satisfied with Papadopulo, Hamed, thank you.
And we are quite satisfied with Papadopulo, Hamed, thank you.
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Come on, this guy won't make the most of your squad.
Don't you want to go back to 3-4 place in the near future? Don't you want to go back to tasting European glory? Don't you want to see some Catenaccio? Just imagine what Cuper would do with guys like Oddo, Cesar, Liverani and Rocchi?
If interested, Cuper lives in Palma de Mallorca now, and he can be reached through his agent.
Don't you want to go back to 3-4 place in the near future? Don't you want to go back to tasting European glory? Don't you want to see some Catenaccio? Just imagine what Cuper would do with guys like Oddo, Cesar, Liverani and Rocchi?
If interested, Cuper lives in Palma de Mallorca now, and he can be reached through his agent.
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Handoyo said:Jimmy posted the Inter line-up for season 01/02 and I dare you to say that ours was better than Roma's, Juve's and Milan's line-up that season.
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In Cuper's world no, In Javier Zanetti's world of player manager. Yes it was if you include the other players at the squads disposal overall it was a great squad. Obviously not in Cuper's world like I said you have to use your imagination and theres no right and wrong with this. Just my opinion
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Cuper was a good man. I respect him a lot. Each coach has his own style and Cuper's was boring, that was just his way. I respect him a lot as a man though.
Quotes from Hector Cuper
Another nuisance of the past few days is Ronaldo...
"I think Ronaldo loves me. When someone always talks about another person it means it's love."
It seems he wants to take Vieri to Madrid...
"I think he loves me."
What do you think about the incident in which Vieri threw a bottle at Trap?
"Trapattoni is right. Vieri is like a son, he's like that. There are moments in which he doesn't count to ten before reacting. He expresses himself in his way. Maybe others do it more elegantly."
Everyone that leaves Inter speaks badly of Cuper. Will you speak one day?
"Not everybody speaks badly. Conceiçao, for example, spoke very well and I know this. I think that if someone has something to say they should say it immediately. You don't make declarations afterward just to justify the current situation."
How much of a disturbance was created by the fact that you were without numerous internationals?
"The only disturbance is that I've had just two days to explain to those who have come back from their national teams what I've explained to the others in six days."
A forecast (for the Milan derby)?
"Forecasts.... I'll say 2-0."
A player to take away from Milan?
"No one. We're not scared of anyone."
MILAN - In an interview with Sky, Hector Cuper spoke about the criticism Inter have come in for after the first two matches of the championship:
"I can't be angry. Criticism is criticism, it's another thing to understand if this criticism is justified or not. It may be that Inter haven't played well, but the numbers [first position in the table and no goals conceded] say something."
Quotes from Hector Cuper
Another nuisance of the past few days is Ronaldo...
"I think Ronaldo loves me. When someone always talks about another person it means it's love."
It seems he wants to take Vieri to Madrid...
"I think he loves me."
What do you think about the incident in which Vieri threw a bottle at Trap?
"Trapattoni is right. Vieri is like a son, he's like that. There are moments in which he doesn't count to ten before reacting. He expresses himself in his way. Maybe others do it more elegantly."
Everyone that leaves Inter speaks badly of Cuper. Will you speak one day?
"Not everybody speaks badly. Conceiçao, for example, spoke very well and I know this. I think that if someone has something to say they should say it immediately. You don't make declarations afterward just to justify the current situation."
How much of a disturbance was created by the fact that you were without numerous internationals?
"The only disturbance is that I've had just two days to explain to those who have come back from their national teams what I've explained to the others in six days."
A forecast (for the Milan derby)?
"Forecasts.... I'll say 2-0."
A player to take away from Milan?
"No one. We're not scared of anyone."
MILAN - In an interview with Sky, Hector Cuper spoke about the criticism Inter have come in for after the first two matches of the championship:
"I can't be angry. Criticism is criticism, it's another thing to understand if this criticism is justified or not. It may be that Inter haven't played well, but the numbers [first position in the table and no goals conceded] say something."
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Mallorca left eating partridge courtesy of the nearly man
Sid Lowe sees Héctor Cúper pull off a miraculous rescue act, less than two months after announcing: "We're going to have to find a way to go down with dignity"
Tuesday May 31, 2005
If there was a competition for coming second, Real Mallorca coach Héctor Cúper would still come second. Like poor Buzz Aldrin, he just can't take that one small step to glory and when it comes to finals he'd be better off hiding under the stairs, puffing his way through another cigarette and pondering which tank top and dour expression to wear next.
This, after all, is the coach who blew the league with Huracán on the final day of the season back in Argentina before embarking on a brilliant European career of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. First, he guided primera división newcomers Mallorca to the Copa del Rey final in 1998 only to be beaten by Barcelona and then lead them to the final of the Cup Winners' Cup, where they were defeated by Lazio. And just in case anyone thought it was a fluke Cúper did it all over again.
And again and again. He took Valencia to two successive European Cup finals and lost them both, while cunningly describing the vital last game of the 2000-2001 season against Barcelona as another final, thus guaranteeing that Rivaldo would score the most ludicrously brilliant, last-minute overhead kick ever to leave him empty-handed. As empty-handed he was the year after, in fact, when Inter blew the Italian league on the final day, with Ronaldo blubbing his eyes out on the bench.
Yes, Cúper is a nearly man alright (as opposed to nearly a man; we're not talking Fatima Whitbread). Or, at least, he was. Because this weekend something truly amazing happened: Cúper led a football team into a decisive match and got a result.
"This was one final I couldn't lose," he declared, hiding the fact that it was also one he couldn't actually win. "It was a footballing miracle," he added - and this time he had a point. So, importantly, did Mallorca, thanks to a 1-1 draw that prompted a huge party with players crying in their pants, a cuddly devil mascot complete with the kind of squidgy foam pitchfork that'd come as quite a relief down in hell, and fans going all Chris Peckham (weally wild). At both ends of the stadium.
You see, at Son Moix on Sunday night, the season's last, Mallorca were in grave danger of relegation against Betis, who had a first ever Champions League place in their sights - and better still, a first ever Champions League place at their expense of city rivals Sevilla.
And yet it wasn't all bad news. Mallorca were playing at home and, a point ahead, all they needed to do was match the result of Levante, who faced the other Champions League-bound team, Villarreal. Most of Mallorca's players didn't even think they had to win, and they were right. All Betis had to do, meanwhile, was match Sevilla, who lost 2-0 to Málaga. All of which made things somewhat more comfortable than anticipated, especially with Cúper in charge.
True, Mallorca could never fully relax because Villarreal weren't sure of victory over Levante until the 87th minute, the same minute in which Mallorca themselves finally equalised through Pereyra, and Betis didn't know that a draw would be enough as Sevilla weren't killed off until the 91st minute. And yet there was precious little movement on the final day and Mallorca were only in the relegation zone for 17 minutes - from Reggi's opener for Levante to Josico's equaliser five minutes before half-time, a goal as heartily roared at Son Moix as the Madrigal. Villarreal, meanwhile, eventually defeated Levante 4-1, with two from Diego Forlán, who may have grown a ludicrous Beckham-meets-Mandela hairdo but rounded off a brilliant season as top scorer in Spain.
That result, allied to Sevilla's defeat, meant Betis and Mallorca were able to celebrate triumph together with a draw, prompting Marca and AS to go for the same headline: "And they ate partridge" which, for some reason, is Spanish for "And they lived happily ever after".
They certainly did (live happily ever after, that is; there wasn't a partridge in sight). Because, while the final act may have been free of twists, Betis's Champions League place is a huge achievement and Mallorca's survival really is a miracle, a feat that Cúper described as "a resurrection in every sense".
When Cúper joined the club at the start of November, Mallorca were dead and buried - and, despite a six-match unbeaten start, slumped again, ambled about disinterested and tired and were still dead and buried with eight games to go. Then, suddenly, as if the players finally realised how serious things were (for Cúper's approach hadn't changed), they started fighting, concentrating and winning, finishing unbeaten in the last seven games, picking up 15 of 21 points.
Last weekend they pulled themselves out of the relegation zone for the first time in 31 weeks, having been 11 points from safety two months previously and were replaced by collapsing Levante - the side that had a Champions League place eight weeks into the season but whose harmonious early days have been obliterated by in-fighting.
One Levante defender admitted that players and president Pedro Villarroel, "almost came to blows", but if that sounds like an extremely loving relationship, it isn't. Just as the one between former coach Bernd Schuster and his president, or the one between Schuster and much of the squad, or the one between some in the squad and some of the others in the squad isn't. Just four reasons why when José Luis Oltra took over he insisted, "I'm not a saviour". How right he was: Levante collected just three points from their final ten games.
The saviour, or so we're told, is Cúper, the man who sends his players on to the pitch with an encouraging palm in the chest (something that, when this column tries it, only results in arrest); who was greeted with a round of applause when he walked tearfully into the press conference room on Sunday; who, according to Marca, "never lost faith"; and who, said AS's match report, "is made of stern stuff. Cúper never gave in".
Which is a bit of a weird thing to say of the coach who, on April 10, entered the same room and announced: "We're going to have to find a way to go down with dignity."
Mallorca left eating partridge courtesy of the nearly man
Sid Lowe sees Héctor Cúper pull off a miraculous rescue act, less than two months after announcing: "We're going to have to find a way to go down with dignity"
Tuesday May 31, 2005
If there was a competition for coming second, Real Mallorca coach Héctor Cúper would still come second. Like poor Buzz Aldrin, he just can't take that one small step to glory and when it comes to finals he'd be better off hiding under the stairs, puffing his way through another cigarette and pondering which tank top and dour expression to wear next.
This, after all, is the coach who blew the league with Huracán on the final day of the season back in Argentina before embarking on a brilliant European career of snatching defeat from the jaws of victory. First, he guided primera división newcomers Mallorca to the Copa del Rey final in 1998 only to be beaten by Barcelona and then lead them to the final of the Cup Winners' Cup, where they were defeated by Lazio. And just in case anyone thought it was a fluke Cúper did it all over again.
And again and again. He took Valencia to two successive European Cup finals and lost them both, while cunningly describing the vital last game of the 2000-2001 season against Barcelona as another final, thus guaranteeing that Rivaldo would score the most ludicrously brilliant, last-minute overhead kick ever to leave him empty-handed. As empty-handed he was the year after, in fact, when Inter blew the Italian league on the final day, with Ronaldo blubbing his eyes out on the bench.
Yes, Cúper is a nearly man alright (as opposed to nearly a man; we're not talking Fatima Whitbread). Or, at least, he was. Because this weekend something truly amazing happened: Cúper led a football team into a decisive match and got a result.
"This was one final I couldn't lose," he declared, hiding the fact that it was also one he couldn't actually win. "It was a footballing miracle," he added - and this time he had a point. So, importantly, did Mallorca, thanks to a 1-1 draw that prompted a huge party with players crying in their pants, a cuddly devil mascot complete with the kind of squidgy foam pitchfork that'd come as quite a relief down in hell, and fans going all Chris Peckham (weally wild). At both ends of the stadium.
You see, at Son Moix on Sunday night, the season's last, Mallorca were in grave danger of relegation against Betis, who had a first ever Champions League place in their sights - and better still, a first ever Champions League place at their expense of city rivals Sevilla.
And yet it wasn't all bad news. Mallorca were playing at home and, a point ahead, all they needed to do was match the result of Levante, who faced the other Champions League-bound team, Villarreal. Most of Mallorca's players didn't even think they had to win, and they were right. All Betis had to do, meanwhile, was match Sevilla, who lost 2-0 to Málaga. All of which made things somewhat more comfortable than anticipated, especially with Cúper in charge.
True, Mallorca could never fully relax because Villarreal weren't sure of victory over Levante until the 87th minute, the same minute in which Mallorca themselves finally equalised through Pereyra, and Betis didn't know that a draw would be enough as Sevilla weren't killed off until the 91st minute. And yet there was precious little movement on the final day and Mallorca were only in the relegation zone for 17 minutes - from Reggi's opener for Levante to Josico's equaliser five minutes before half-time, a goal as heartily roared at Son Moix as the Madrigal. Villarreal, meanwhile, eventually defeated Levante 4-1, with two from Diego Forlán, who may have grown a ludicrous Beckham-meets-Mandela hairdo but rounded off a brilliant season as top scorer in Spain.
That result, allied to Sevilla's defeat, meant Betis and Mallorca were able to celebrate triumph together with a draw, prompting Marca and AS to go for the same headline: "And they ate partridge" which, for some reason, is Spanish for "And they lived happily ever after".
They certainly did (live happily ever after, that is; there wasn't a partridge in sight). Because, while the final act may have been free of twists, Betis's Champions League place is a huge achievement and Mallorca's survival really is a miracle, a feat that Cúper described as "a resurrection in every sense".
When Cúper joined the club at the start of November, Mallorca were dead and buried - and, despite a six-match unbeaten start, slumped again, ambled about disinterested and tired and were still dead and buried with eight games to go. Then, suddenly, as if the players finally realised how serious things were (for Cúper's approach hadn't changed), they started fighting, concentrating and winning, finishing unbeaten in the last seven games, picking up 15 of 21 points.
Last weekend they pulled themselves out of the relegation zone for the first time in 31 weeks, having been 11 points from safety two months previously and were replaced by collapsing Levante - the side that had a Champions League place eight weeks into the season but whose harmonious early days have been obliterated by in-fighting.
One Levante defender admitted that players and president Pedro Villarroel, "almost came to blows", but if that sounds like an extremely loving relationship, it isn't. Just as the one between former coach Bernd Schuster and his president, or the one between Schuster and much of the squad, or the one between some in the squad and some of the others in the squad isn't. Just four reasons why when José Luis Oltra took over he insisted, "I'm not a saviour". How right he was: Levante collected just three points from their final ten games.
The saviour, or so we're told, is Cúper, the man who sends his players on to the pitch with an encouraging palm in the chest (something that, when this column tries it, only results in arrest); who was greeted with a round of applause when he walked tearfully into the press conference room on Sunday; who, according to Marca, "never lost faith"; and who, said AS's match report, "is made of stern stuff. Cúper never gave in".
Which is a bit of a weird thing to say of the coach who, on April 10, entered the same room and announced: "We're going to have to find a way to go down with dignity."
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cuper is a great coach, I m not sure if he will great with big teams like us, but he make wonder with mid or small teams..
if cuper can win anything major, I will be in great joy coz I have much respect for this guy... When he does things , he has reasons... even when it is wrong...
too bad we dont win anything with him..., but I prefer mancio's way of play...
I still think we owe cuper something, our team was a mess when cuper took over, if we have built a team, cuper made the first foundation
if cuper can win anything major, I will be in great joy coz I have much respect for this guy... When he does things , he has reasons... even when it is wrong...
too bad we dont win anything with him..., but I prefer mancio's way of play...
I still think we owe cuper something, our team was a mess when cuper took over, if we have built a team, cuper made the first foundation
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Exactly.
With the players we had we even shouldn't have challenge Juve and BBilan for the scudetto, but we did. I miss you Cuper..
We say we can't expect a thing of Mancio's first season. What about Cuper then? His tactic is much depented(spelling..) on wingers. And what about our wingers back then..
He lost some keyplayers then in the summer but still went to CL-semis.
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Cuper is a good man. However... he brought some shit players. Guglielminpietro? This guy isn't Inter class. Gresko? God help us. Conceicao? not inter class.
Anyway I'm very happy Mallorca survived. I like Cuper. Coaches like Tardelli and Lippi failed. Tardelli is a f-cking loser. Why did we ever hire this idiot?
Anyway I'm very happy Mallorca survived. I like Cuper. Coaches like Tardelli and Lippi failed. Tardelli is a f-cking loser. Why did we ever hire this idiot?
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Great article Ashkan, where did you get it from? I love the writer's witty style :star: :star: :star:
About Cuper, there is one thing that I find amazing. Everyone talks about Cuper being the biggest choker. But when did Cuper have a great and complete team like the Real's, Milan's and Juve's? NEVER
Yet, he is blamed as if he had a decent starting 11! Really weird, but there are those who don't know soccer.
And primo, Cuper request great wingers. The management answered that by getting the Conceicao's and Morfeo's. Still, he is being blamed for that!
About Cuper, there is one thing that I find amazing. Everyone talks about Cuper being the biggest choker. But when did Cuper have a great and complete team like the Real's, Milan's and Juve's? NEVER
Yet, he is blamed as if he had a decent starting 11! Really weird, but there are those who don't know soccer.
And primo, Cuper request great wingers. The management answered that by getting the Conceicao's and Morfeo's. Still, he is being blamed for that!
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From soccernet.com:
Mallorca, a side partly revived by Hector Cúper, but only because the increasingly desperate situation of the side obliged the catenaccio man to unlock the padlock and allow his team a more liberated approach. Maybe he's learned something, at last. He was even rumoured to have smiled at the end.
I noticed that as well, Mallorca were playing a flowing Cuper-unlike game. I don't know whether it's the desperation or what, but Cuperman seems to give up his stubborn defensive approach.
Mallorca, a side partly revived by Hector Cúper, but only because the increasingly desperate situation of the side obliged the catenaccio man to unlock the padlock and allow his team a more liberated approach. Maybe he's learned something, at last. He was even rumoured to have smiled at the end.
I noticed that as well, Mallorca were playing a flowing Cuper-unlike game. I don't know whether it's the desperation or what, but Cuperman seems to give up his stubborn defensive approach.