Goal Scorers and Assist-Men 2020/21

[Bluenine]

Udinese 0-0 Inter


Inter 2-0 Mafia
- Vidal (a: Barella)
- Barella (a: Bastoni)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[Bluenine]

Mafia 0-0 Inter (Coppa)


Fiorentina 0-2 Inter
- Barella (a: Sanchez)
- Perisic (a: Hakimi, kc: Sanchez)


Inter 1-2 Mafia (Coppa)
- Martinez (a: Barella)


Inter 4-0 Benevento
- Own Goal (kc: Eriksen)
- Martinez (kc: Gagliardini)
- Lukaku (a: Martinez)
- Lukaku (a: Sanchez)


Inter 2-1 Milan (Coppa)
- Lukaku pen (kc: Barella)
- Eriksen

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[Bluenine]

Inter 3-1 Lazio
- Lukaku pen (kc: Martinez)
- Lukaku (kc: Brozovic)
- Martinez (a: Lukaku, kc: Brozovic)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[brehme1989]

No contribution for Brozovic in the 3rd one?

Literally stopped a dangerous attack and initiated a 2 on 2 counter attack with 2 touches.

 

[Bluenine]

No contribution for Brozovic in the 3rd one?

Literally stopped a dangerous attack and initiated a 2 on 2 counter attack with 2 touches.

I wanted to give a kc to Brozo for that, but didn't want to look too generous with the kcs. But now that you also mentioned it, I will award it.

 

[Bluenine]

Milan 0-3 Inter
- Martinez (a: Lukaku)
- Martinez (a: Perisic, kc: Eriksen, Hakimi)
- Lukaku (a: Perisic)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[Broseph Stalin]

Perisic’s assist to Lukaku is quite a stretch imo

 

[Bluenine]

Perisic’s assist to Lukaku is quite a stretch imo

Its an official assist though, based on livescore. Only the kc awards are based on my/our judgement. I guess its karma, based on his performance today Perisic deserves it and more.

Re the kc awarded, IMO that pass by Eriksen to Perisic for the 2nd goal was as good as any assist. It looked easy, but had cool headed class written all over it. Eriksen is improving his end product at Inter with every game, he is finally becoming the player we hoped to see when we bought him.

 

[brehme1989]

You also need to give Hakimi the KC for the second one. Dude stayed on his feet, was chased by several bilanisti and managed to dish the pass to Eriksen and also be in a great position to score if Lautaro wasn't there. If that doesn't constitute a key contribution I don't know what does. Nothing wrong with two players having a key contribution.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I agree. Perisic two assists for this match but there needs to be two KCs for the 0-2 goal.

And this is really an awesome stats collection. Key contributions is an excellent way of keeping track some of the good plays done by players who aren't directly involved in goals.

 

[brehme1989]

Only issue I have is with the way assists are handed. Livescore (and Transfermarkt and whomever is the "official" source here) just gives an assist to the last player who touched the ball before reaching the goalscorer. In many cases it was not intended. For example I recall one of the Lukaku assists was him actually trying to head the ball in, from a 50 cm distance from the goal, it hit the back of his head and then someone scored a shot. That's never an assist, yet here it is There have been several similar incidents. The Perisic second one also is not really an assist. At some point you have to acknowledge a solo effort when you see one, there's no need to try to fill the data sheet with numbers for the sake of it.

They also do not give an assist in situations where an own goal was scored. Sure, it's a bit odd, but if a defender reaches the ball right before the attacker's touch and scores an own goal, the assist shouldn't be eliminated.

I'm collecting the data as well taking all those things into account to see how different the final picture will be.

 

[Bluenine]

Guys, happy to review the Hakimi kc for the 2nd goal. I didn't award it at that time as I like to be conservative with the kcs. I am not sure I remember the play now, can someone post the video here?

Brehme, I think an assist should be an assist. Yes, some of them will be less deserving than others. Some of them will be unintentional. But its the same with the goals. Happy to review this - we can take a vote for next season, and if you guys want we could change the "assist" system to disqualify some assists.

The whole point of the "kc" system is to make sure that all key contributions that led to the goal are taken into account, so that we have a true picture of each players end product. I have no probs with you posting an alternate picture at the end of the season, but the reason I post this immediately after each game is so that we can peer review it. Like we are doing now. That is important to take out any error/bias/inconsistency. Your picture will miss that peer review. My suggestion is that you post your views here after each game, and as you can see here, I take that into the account.

EDIT: Reviewed it and awarded another kc to Hakimi

 

[brehme1989]

Yeah sure. The main reason I keep it for the end of the season is to see if there are glaring differences somewhere. Maybe when I get arsed to fix the table (changed laptops, no Excel yet and cannot work properly with that Calc program)

I do take into account things that are written here as well if I happen to miss them.

 

[Bluenine]

Inter 3-0 Genoa
- Lukaku (a: Martinez)
- Darmian (a: Lukaku)
- Sanchez (kc: Perisic, Lukaku)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

Should Barella get a kc for the first goal? Am undecided on that coz it was in our half of the pitch, and Lukaku pretty much created his own goal.

 

[CafeCordoba]

I wouldn't give KC to Barella. It was pretty regular pass forward, nothing special, Lautaro-Lukaku combination was the thing which created the goal (in addition to the ridiculous amount of space in Genoa defence).

 

[brehme1989]

Tonight or tomorrow I'll post the data I've been gathering for comparison.

 

[Bluenine]

Parma 1-2 Inter
- Sanchez (kc: Lukaku)
- Sanchez (a: Lukaku)

- For consistency, assists awarded as per Livescore
- kc = Key contributions
- GC% = Percentage of Inter goals the player has contributed towards

 

[brehme1989]

Here's what I have:

And broken down:

And the one missing is the Parma game, which is the same entry as Bluenine's.

 

[Cómi]

It might be useful in the future to have the time of each goal.

 

[Bluenine]

Brehme, like I said before, I am not going to review all the goals again to crosscheck your list. We do this here after every game while its fresh in memory, its just easier that way. This is your opinion, and thanks for posting it. I just wonder if you use different yardsticks for players you don't like. Can't help but notice that Lukaku has less assists and gcs in your calculation. You feelings towards Lukaku are well known. For eg:

- As per La Gazzetta dello Sport, Lukaku has 7 assists.
- As per Transfermarkt, Lukaku has 7 assists.
- As per Livescore, Lukaku has 7 assists, as reflected in my tracker above.
- Your calculations show Lukaku has only 6 assists.

Assists can be opinion based, so I am not saying you are wrong. There may be cases where you are right. If there are any specific assists/gcs you would like me to review, happy to do that - just post them here, ideally with a link to the video. If I agree with you, happy to make the changes in my tracker.