European Super League Discussion

[IM21]

Liverpool players said they dont want this... we can expect this from other english teams.

 

[CafeCordoba]

So what that it's euro commie party?

If there's no revenue split it's winner takes it all -system. That will kill the grassroot level football. Big clubs actually benefit from that too because there's where the future stars are made.

I don't understand why that same money for the win is so big deal to you.

 

[compile]

Your figures are wrong.
The total prize money the CL winner can make, ignoring draws and pool money nd wins in the group staage, is 82.45m. That's ignoring any broadcast revenue, etc. I'm also factoring in additional sponsorship revenue, bonuses, matchday income (we made 3.5m hosting Barca at home, for example).

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UEFA_Champions_League

Note the 'Prize money' section - every step is incrementl - e.g. making the quarters is 15m for group stge + 9.5m for R16 + 10.5m for quarters. If you go on to win it from there, you get +12m for semis, +19m for champions.

PSG made £120m last year between prize money + broadcast revenue, NOT counting any sponsorship bonuses, matchday revenue, etc.

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/f...rs-Bayern-Munich-despite-final-heartache.html

These figures are typically quite significant - even for Inter, 3 sell out home matches is worth £10m alone. I dont know about our sponsorship deals, but I'd expect at leasat anoither 5-10m there.

I said the winner...
Sorry my numbers were a typo, anyways we aren't really arguing, i was just trying to clarify.


Directly from UEFA
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/sta...lub-competitions-revenue-distribution-system/

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

So what that it's euro commie party?

If there's no revenue split it's winner takes it all -system. That will kill the grassroot level football. Big clubs actually benefit from that too because there's where the future stars are made.

I don't understand why that same money for the win is so big deal to you.

I literally just explained this.

 

[.h.]

I said the winner...
Sorry my numbers were a typo, anyways we aren't really arguing, i was just trying to clarify.


Directly from UEFA
https://www.uefa.com/insideuefa/sta...lub-competitions-revenue-distribution-system/

yeah i amended my post - i think theyy're misleading, tbh. To win the CL you end up with like 85-ish m in prize money at least. Broadcast gives you aanother 50. If you've got tht far you have 3 group home matches, and another 3 from the knockouts. 6 rounds at Inter would be worth £20-25m, but bigger clubs probably more. Then we trigger a bunch of bonuses from our sponsors, which even in our shitty sitution is worth like another £10-20m. Before you know it, that takes Inter up to like £170 already - so for bigger clubs like Barca aaits probably 200-250 easy.

 

[brehme1989]

So, when does someone lock the thread?

 

[Forzanerazzurri]

So, when does someone lock the thread?

Ok Stalin

 

[compile]

yeah i amended my post - i think theyy're misleading, tbh. To win the CL you end up with like 85-ish m in prize money at least. Broadcast gives you aanother 50. If you've got tht far you have 3 group home matches, and another 3 from the knockouts. 6 rounds at Inter would be worth £20-25m, but bigger clubs probably more. Then we trigger a bunch of bonuses from our sponsors, which even in our shitty sitution is worth like another £10-20m. Before you know it, that takes Inter up to like £170 already - so for bigger clubs like Barca aaits probably 200-250 easy.

Ya Inter in the Treble year grossed something like 345m just from the CL.

 

[Il Drago]

So, when does someone lock the thread?

When the dissolution becomes official. So far there's nothing official.

 

[.h.]

Ya Inter in the Treble year grossed something like 345m just from the CL.

no we didnt. When we won it, there were rumours about how we'd make loads more money, but it didnt come to fruition. I remember articles at the time saying we'd make anaother 100m easy from new sponsors, bonuses, etc etc etc. In the end, our commercial and matchda revenue increased slightly, but that was bout it

Our 2009-2010 revenue was *barely* above 08-09, unfortunately. Another major failing of Moratti - he failed to exploit on that at all.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251165/revenue-of-internazionale-milan-by-stream/

Our revenue didnt pass 350 until 18/19

 

[IM21]

Romano - Official statement. Manchester City Football Club can confirm that it has formally enacted the procedures to withdraw from the group developing plans for a European Super League. ���� #MCFC #ManCity #SuperLeague

 

[Ethor]

Like a Phoenix something like this will probably rise again.

 

[brehme1989]

Stan Collymore (former Liverpool striker) says that Fenway have put the club for sale

 

[Conan the Barbarian]

If this shit show is over then The Zhangs will definetly look for a buyer again.

GOOOD

 

[Pimpin]

Nope. Before exceptionals, Barca, Real made about 700m last year, Inter made 292m. I rounded up to 800m cuz, well, why the fuck not. It's still close enough.

ah my bad, i thought you meant in superleague thats what we would stand to make

 

[compile]

no we didnt. When we won it, there were rumours about how we'd make loads more money, but it didnt come to fruition. I remember articles at the time saying we'd make anaother 100m easy from new sponsors, bonuses, etc etc etc. In the end, our commercial and matchda revenue increased slightly, but that was bout it

Our 2009-2010 revenue was *barely* above 08-09, unfortunately. Another major failing of Moratti - he failed to exploit on that at all.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/251165/revenue-of-internazionale-milan-by-stream/

Our revenue didnt pass 350 until 18/19

Does that include CL, Club World Cup, Coppa, Serie A because I don't see a break down.

 

[.h.]

ah my bad, i thought you meant in superleague thats what we would stand to make

my best guess of the super league revenue was about 450-550m a seaason for Inter. It depends what you think happens to existing sponsorship, etc, for example. That was moodelled on the idea of only being in the super league, e.g. no serie a matchday or broadcaast or prize.

Does that include CL, Club World Cup, Coppa, Serie A because I don't see a break down.

I'm not 100% sure. Prize money should probably be factored as commercial, but I dont know for sure. either way, the treble was an amazing chance for us to exploit and grow and we failed on that entirely.

remember 09/10 waas a along time ago, money in football waas much lower then

 

[Wings]

The fans all complain about the Super League because football is a "meritocracy", but when it comes to revenue splits, then its a giant Euro Commie party and each team should get the same amount for a win even though nobody is watching or driving ad revenue for a Krasnodar match. Small teams like this that dominate their home leagues year after year are not good for football because the amount they make from CL is so disproportionality high that nobody in their leagues can ever compete with them. And all of that revenue is UNEARNED, because they are being carried by these large teams. Dynamo can pay for all over their wages several times over from the Group Stage earnings alone. What does that do for a large club like Real Madrid, who ultimately drives revenues that attract the capital for tv rights and sponsors for UEFA. It pays for one marginally good player in the transfer market. Why dont you people get it? Football fans are irrational morons.

For years big clubs have spent grotesquely. You keep bringing up Barcelona. How many 100m+ flops have they recklessly bought over the past several years? But you pin the blame on those greedy small clubs hoovering up more than their fair share. I didn't realize Dynamo were responsible for Barcelona's financial woes.

Keep talking about meritocracy. The most un-meritocratic thing you can do is guarantee safety for 75% of a league's members. On what merits are Milan, Arsenal, or Spurs in this Super League?

Then you have the audacity to make it sound like you're looking out for the smaller teams of smaller countries

 

[.h.]

Man utd just formallyy pulled out

 

[Il Drago]

One of Liverpool sponsons officially left them because of Super League.