Estevão Dalbert

[Tombatu]

Yeah man just joking around. But tbh Naga isn't the dumbest one in the league. He has some smart moves on his sleeves. His overlap is decent enough tactically to help Pero. It's his physical attributes that makes him struggle. Don't get it wrong, I'm not Lord Naga admirer but imho I won't call him the dumbest one.

 

[Wallace]

We do have to give Nagashit credits, I always wondered how did he survive in this Inter environment for this long.

When the likes of Roberto Carlos, Francesco Coco (New Maldini Milanisti used to call him), Grigoris Georgatos, Maxwell, Grosso all failed to become our long term solution, Nagashit became our undisputed starter for years despite playing absolutely shit (okay it's an exaggeration), how is this even be logically, principally possible?

What sort of probabilitistic permutation we all ought to be so unluckily witnessed here happened to be so coincidental? The answer is none, his Inter adventure was not a coincidence, him being our Vice capitano, is not a coincidence.

I think there is more intelligence in Nagashit than most of you gave him for, he's a real strategist here to be frank. I highly doubt there will be any other players able to replace his legendary status after his promotion to the upper management hierarchy, possibly to replace Figo's role after he left vacant for years.

 

[JJM]

HOW THE FUCK CAN'T HE STAR OVER NAGATOMO?! SRSLY?! I'M WORRIED...A LOT!

 

[Harpsabu]

he had two full weeks with Spalo while naga was on international duty and he still couldnt get the start. he must be fucking shit.

 

[M.Adnan]

This player has reached the lowest possible level of disappointment. I'm aware that many new players need time to adapt, but you can't be THIS bad. I'd understand if he's just joined us straight from Brazil, but he's already had a full season with Nice in European football.

It's really worrying if you can't get a single minute a head of an internationally tired Nagatomo and recently Santon who hasn't played since World War II.

 

[ElDiego22]

Nagatomo was being Nagatomo in the derby. I refuse to believe Dalbert can be this bad.

 

[Bluenine]

This player has reached the lowest possible level of disappointment. I'm aware that many new players need time to adapt, but you can't be THIS bad. I'd understand if he's just joined us straight from Brazil, but he's already had a full season with Nice in European football.

It's really worrying if you can't get a single minute a head of an internationally tired Nagatomo and recently Santon who hasn't played since World War II.

Its not about being that bad, its about easing a new young player slowly into the starting XI. You don't want to throw him into a full pressure derby - a mistake here could scar the kid for life.

I actually think Spalletti is doing the right thing with Dalbert and Karamoh, letting them get used to the environment and training in peace. He will give them some chances here and there against smaller teams and in the coppa, and when they start showing confidence and start performing well, they can start more regularly. Thats usually the mature approach towards youth development.

 

[ChillBro]

Its not about being that bad, its about easing a new young player slowly into the starting XI. You don't want to throw him into a full pressure derby - a mistake here could scar the kid for life.

I actually think Spalletti is doing the right thing with Dalbert and Karamoh, letting them get used to the environment and training in peace. He will give them some chances here and there against smaller teams and in the coppa, and when they start showing confidence and start performing well, they can start more regularly. Thats usually the mature approach towards youth development.

seriously everybody needs to chill the fuck out about dalbert. His performances have been fine defensively - and I am no nagatomo fan - but dalbert is new...not just new to the team but new to the whole damn league.

If he starts to never play like 3 months from now, maybe we can start to worry - but until then. chill out.

 

[Cómi]

I am no nagatomo fan

It's funny how people feel they need to point this out

 

[wera]

Yea, if they are intergrated the right way, both (plus also Cancelo) could play a big part in the next season, maybe even at the end of this one. :datass:

In any case our squad is not big and players will get chances. Dalbert has done nothing really bad so far, he just isn't ready to play in big games, I think. That is how it usually goes in Serie A, you play the regulars and you hone the newbies, who are young enough for that to be still possible.

 

[thatdude]

I thought it was pretty obvious we wouldn’t see him until after Milan and Napoli. You don’t make a change to your settled back line against those teams even if it includes Nagatomo.

 

[A.l.i]

This player has reached the lowest possible level of disappointment. I'm aware that many new players need time to adapt, but you can't be THIS bad. I'd understand if he's just joined us straight from Brazil, but he's already had a full season with Nice in European football.

It's really worrying if you can't get a single minute a head of an internationally tired Nagatomo and recently Santon who hasn't played since World War II.

Too harsh. Dalbert will integrate slowly.

 

[nurko]

I agree that some players need to integrate slowly but by this rate, we're going to see him in April. By this logic might as well start buying players in January which will be used only next season.

 

[Bluenine]

I agree that some players need to integrate slowly but by this rate, we're going to see him in April. By this logic might as well start buying players in January which will be used only next season.

Yes, if you buy 23 year olds for the future they will take time to integrate. But January window is ideally meant for short term fixes, so we will probably buy experienced players who can integrate much faster.

 

[ur-um]

Too harsh. Dalbert will integrate slowly.

On the other hand, Inter also has a history of buying players that disintegrate slowly. I'm hoping he would do well.

 

[nurko]

Yes, if you buy 23 year olds for the future they will take time to integrate. But January window is ideally meant for short term fixes, so we will probably buy experienced players who can integrate much faster.

I was mocking the logic behind integrations which last far too long, do not take seriously that final sentence.
Dalbert needs to play. He can't be much worse than Nagatomo.

 

[M.Adnan]

I actually think Spalletti is doing the right thing with Dalbert and Karamoh,(.......). Thats usually the mature approach towards youth development.

But Dalbert isn't a youngster. He's 24 years old already. Karamoh, on the other hand, is only 19 so his situation is understandable. I feel like we're discussing Kondogbia all over again. 3 months of training for a 24 years old should be enough to do better than Nagatomo.

 

[Sassuolu]

It may take a while to adjust to Italy, I don't think Dalbert ever played badly he was just too timid.

 

[Bluenine]

But Dalbert isn't a youngster. He's 24 years old already. Karamoh, on the other hand, is only 19 so his situation is understandable. I feel like we're discussing Kondogbia all over again. 3 months of training for a 24 years old should be enough to do better than Nagatomo.

Its the experience, not just the age. Messi and even Balotelli were veterans by 21, but Dalbert is still relatively inexperienced at 24 specially at this level in Europe. Hopefully Spalletti will integrate him over the next 2-3 months, and if he plays well he can become our starter. Different players mature at different times and defenders usually take more time, but I do agree with you that we should expect Dalbert to integrate before Karamoh.

There is also a risk when you buy an inexperienced talent - its quite possible he isn't good enough at this level. But lets not judge him too soon, Spalletti is doing the right thing by giving him time to acclimatise.

 

[indro1908]

does anyone know how emersom palmeri under spalleti / does spalleti integrate him slowly to his roma side ?