English Premier League 2019/2020

[chuck_norris]

Jose Mourinho performance on skysport was absolutely incredible. His knowledge of the game is levels ahead of any standard TV analyst.

 

[Ed.]

That doesn't explain shipping 4 goals. Bringing in an unproven Manager just because he was a great player has more to do with it than losing an attacking player IMO.

Remember when few months back people said we should replace Spalletti with Cambiasso?

 

[Solfice]

Jose Mourinho performance on skysport was absolutely incredible. His knowledge of the game is levels ahead of any standard TV analyst.

Well, no shit.

 

[wera]

That doesn't explain shipping 4 goals. Bringing in an unproven Manager just because he was a great player has more to do with it than losing an attacking player IMO.

He might still surprise you. Chelsea also had injuries, so they weren't 100%.

 

[brehme1989]

Chelsea will probably barely make the top 10 unless their kids perform better than expected (Pulisic, Hudson-Odoi, Mount, Kenedy).
Their midfield is good enough to provide some defensive stability and create some offensive chances but their defence doesn't seem like it's their strong point anymore despite having the same personnel.

It can be a worrying season for them, morale is probably at a two decades low.

 

[wera]

First of all, Kovačić and Jorginho are too light without Kante on the pitch.

Secondly - I do agree, they will barely make the top10, but I still believe Lampard won't be a dud like Neville was.

 

[brehme1989]

Well, there's a huge difference between Lampard and Neville.

First of all, Lampard has a football IQ that everyone could spot, while Neville was just a grunt that merely run up and down and yelled a lot. I'll go as far as say that Lampard is just way smarter overall than Gary Neville and that's very important.

Second, Lampard was born into football. His father, uncle, cousins etc were all players, managers and so on. He knows what that life is like and he's been prepared for it before even becoming a professional football player. Gary Neville only knew Alex Ferguson who was charismatic and that cannot be passed on.

Third, Lampard has taken more responsibilities at every level in his football life than Gary Neville, so he's generally a more experienced person. (You can ride along a successful group but that doesn't make you a leader).

As for Chelsea, over the course of the season we'd expect the team to play at its full strength and that would obviously include N'Golo Kante being a starting midfielder.

P.S: I don't see Steven Gerrard ever becoming a great manager unless he somehow lands the Liverpool job prematurely and just gets credit for Klopp's team, mostly for reason #1. Mandatory Gerrard reference whenever Lampard's name is involved

 

[wera]

Haha, totally agree with everything.

Also I believe that now, without Hazard and (the overrated) David Luiz, Lampard will set up his Chelsea as underdogs against all the top10 clubs, because that is how he was doing it at Derby. A lot of getting players to defend as a unit and setting off quick attacks. They also played a lot from the behind, which is why playing Kovačić OR Jorginho will help, but not both together IMO. They would get in a way of eachother, and also if Kante plays, I don't think Kova would be a good fit for AM.

 

[jamsieboy86]

Gerrard won 6-1 the same day Lampard lost 4-0.

Gerrard improved Rangers by 8 points and finished 1 place higher than they had the previous season. Lampard's Derby finished 1 point less and in the same position as they had the previous season.

He showed more ambition going to Scotland to take on a team who had won 7 titles in a row rather than playing it safe with a Championship club.

Gerrard will become a better Manager than Lampard, just like he was a better player. I don't expect Lampard to make it past next summer with Chelsea.

 

[Dylan]

I disagree with pretty much all of that apart from it's too early to judge Lampard and also too early to judge Gerrard for having Defoe run riot against Hibs.

 

[brehme1989]

Dude, Rangers are a giant in Scotland and they are bound to have more money than anyone not named Celtic, automatically be a European team and despite struggling as of late due to their liquidation, everyone could tell that they'd be back. That's the nature of small leagues.

In the Championship you have at least 15 clubs with top flight experience and status (ie perennial 1st tier appearances) and every time some random team pops out that challenges for promotion.
Any team can get promoted or relegated. Only Serie B can boast this to the fullest, with the exception that Serie B tends to rely on form after the turn of the year while the Championship is usually more open till the end. I call this the element of randomness that prevails in the English game.

Also there's a sort of salary cap going on there which makes for more competition parity. In Scotland there's no such thing.
How is going to the Championship playing it safe if you probably are relegated?
In Scotland the expectation is to be #2 and eventually try to win the league by a fluke unless Celtic commits seppuku.

It feels like Lampard at Chelsea is a big gamble, one which I don't see working out. But Frank Lampard will probably be a mid-to-bottom PL coach for the rest of his career with probably another Chelsea chance in the future. Can't say that I expect Gerrard to have a great managing career though, unless as I said he becomes the heir of Klopp before that team's cycle is over and continues on that path.

 

[jamsieboy86]

Disagree. Going to Rangers over Derby is way tougher and more ambitious for a Manager.

Rangers expect you to win the league every season, Celtic had won 7 straight before Gerrard went and made it 8 last season. Having the ambition to go there to a tougher job where you have to improve and win the league within 2 or 3 years.

Going to Derby is safer because even if they had finished lower than 6th people would still have praised Lampard. He could have finished 6th 3 seasons in a row and they would keep him.

If Gerrard doesn't win the league this season or next at Rangers he will be gone. There is far more pressure at a big club like Rangers than at an average club like Derby, more spotlight and bigger expectations.

Obviously now Lampard is at a bigger club than Gerrard with maybe even more pressure than at Rangers, especially given Abramovich's track record with Managers.

Lampard only got the Chelsea job because he was an ex-player, not because of anything he did with Derby. He basically lucked his way into the job because of timing and who he is. I put far more weight into Gerrard going to Rangers and improving them, then staying there to take on the might of Celtic for another season than Lampard not improving Derby and lucking his way into the Chelsea job.

Obviously only time will tell who ultimately will become the better Manager of the two but so far Gerrard is ahead of Lampard.

 

[IRR26]

Considering that Rio was caught on doping these kind of comments about having not the right minerals sound pretty much like asking to get joked about.


'Dybala didn't have United minerals'
By Football Italia staff

Ex-Manchester United defender Rio Ferdinand says he is glad Paulo Dybala turned down the Red Devils because he ‘hasn’t got the right minerals’.

United had agreed to swap Romelu Lukaku with Dybala, but the Juventus forward opted to stay in Turin and the Belgian ended up joining Inter.

That has left Ferdinand questioning the 26-year-old’s desire, given he is no longer a first pick for the Bianconeri.

“A lot of players have declined coming to Man Utd in recent years. They’ve chosen somewhere else,” he told the Daily Star.

“But I don’t know how Dybala had the audacity to turn them down when he’s on the bench at Juventus. He needs to start playing some football.

“Maybe he’s thinking: ‘I want to be Champions League or I’ll sit on the bench. I’d rather do that than play at Man Utd.’

“Well, I’m happy he didn’t come, then because you haven’t got the right minerals that I want in a Man Utd player!

“I want someone who wants to come and thinks: ‘Man Utd need to get back to being a top team, I want to be the catalyst’.

“That’s the type of person you want to come through the door.”

 

[Ed.]

haha.. Rio blasting Dybala, Scholes ridiculed Lukaku. Man Utd continues their minerals as mid table EPL clubs.

 

[Shark]

Man Utd and their fans are stuck in the Ferguson days. They still think they are a top club and that good players are standing in queue to play for them Ferdinand's reaction to Dybala's snub just proves that. They obviously haven't realized how low they've fallen over the years.

 

[sdvroot]

Manchester United new defense line 2019

Our defense Godin-Skriniar-DeVrij vs Bissaka-Maguire-Lindelof-Shaw
The new Man United defense looks good if Skriniar is still being they target next summer then they definitely fight for the championship
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=act058P8U1o
I'm thinking of giving 150 million won't be a problem for them.

 

[varmin]

For me Zouma fucked up the game. He was atrocious and the main liability in their defense. N9 was shit as well. I don't know who are their forwards apart of Giroud but it's not serious to start so important game with so young and inexperienced lad. Otherwise Chelsea had much more idea how to play and were better than Man U.

 

[monster09]

haha.. Rio blasting Dybala, Scholes ridiculed Lukaku. Man Utd continues their minerals as mid table EPL clubs.

Lukaku got lot of shit even when he was ManUtd player. Every ManUtd player gets criticism from ex ManUtd players. TBH Lukaku got away with very little criticism, maybe because no one was arsed/worried that he was leaving. When Pogba said maybe it's time to change, there was lot of panic. When Lukaku's agent said Lukaku wants to play in Serie A and then Lukaku said he is thinking about his future, general feeling was "good that he is gone. Just try to get the good fee".

- - - Updated - - -

For me Zouma fucked up the game. He was atrocious and the main liability in their defense. N9 was shit as well. I don't know who are their forwards apart of Giroud but it's not serious to start so important game with so young and inexperienced lad. Otherwise Chelsea had much more idea how to play and were better than Man U.

Chelsea played well infront of defense without creating good chances. They hit the post one was from distance and other was when there was defensive mix up. They were lot better than I expected but they didn't have better ideas than ManUtd. They retained possession better but ManUtd game plan was hitting the opponent on counters and for 3 goals from open play we reached one box to other in around 10 seconds.

We should do lot better than what we showed on Sunday but Chelsea had possession and just quantity of shota lacking quality. Most of the shots are just long range shots from Pedro, Barkley.

 

[GenDire]

This is an abomination of a post, for God's sake don't let brehme see this thread

 

[JJM]

Wtf...

Sent from my BLA-L29 using Tapatalk