Cristian Chivu

[DIN011]

Huh?

JC as in Julio Cesar?

Nah, Joel Chukwuma. :slick:

 

[Driv5r]

Can we plz remove the poll about who is worth Gresko or Chivu, i believe this is disgrace towards to him, i know one thing for sure he would never betray inter like lucio did.

Some to rate players how worldclass they are how good player they are on the pitch, but we do sometimes forget how decent player Chivu is as a person and former Chivu is 10 times more of a player then Lucio will ever be.

Mental retardation (MR) is a generalized disorder appearing before adulthood, characterized by significantly impaired cognitive functioning and deficits in two or more adaptive behaviors, or showing support for players such as Chivu.
Source: Wikipedia.

 

[szasza02]

sheeeit. chivu being a better player than Lucio ever was... damn! don't want to look like a lucio fanboy, but the guy won every fucking title there is to win in this b'ness. probably has a room full of silverware bigger than chivu's entire house. he made guys like drogba or ibra his bitch athe age of 32 and so on...
chivu? lost a scudetto and a cl campaign within 4 days.

 

[Bzzlightyear]

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Yes Lucio have won everything there is to win, but to be honest i rather have Chivu, who imo is more of a honest person in terms of not leaving inter for Rubentus or Bbilan who could have offered a contract, just so he could piss off inter.

As well Lucio made big error vs Parma, and it cost us CL spot. We can argue and always blame on one player, but what i know is Lucio is no more that Lucio who have won everything, Lucio is no more the same person who were suprime against Drogba and Ibra( there were his bitch ).

I am just saying i rather have Chivu that wont cause problems in dressing room as Lucio would, if we didnt terminate the contract.
Even somehow i believe Lucio did know about the offer to Rubentus, so Rubentus could have him for free " rather them paying inter for Lucios transfer fee, and would most likely cost around 2-3 mill imo if not more.

 

[szasza02]

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i rather have Chivu, who imo is more of a honest person in terms of not leaving inter for Rubentus or Bbilan who could have offered a contract, just so he could piss off inter.

you are terribly mistaken if you think Chivu would've stayed had gobbi/bilan offered a better contract. it's just that they didn't go 100% stupid yet to go for him
honesty starts when someone offers HIMSELF a wage cut to the club even though he has some years of his running contract (like Chuchu did a few years back). what Chivu did has nothing to do with honesty (looking for some better option and then saying 1. he alwys wanted to stay and 2. money was never a problem. give me a fucking break.
and I still don't want to look like lucio's fanboy, but signing to gobbi solely to piss Inter off sounds quite retarded.
and in my previous post I didn't primarily talk about human attributes, but about who's being a better player. not that we could judge the former from here anyway....

 

[Suneet]

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Yes Lucio have won everything there is to win, but to be honest i rather have Chivu, who imo is more of a honest person in terms of not leaving inter for Rubentus or Bbilan who could have offered a contract, just so he could piss off inter.

As well Lucio made big error vs Parma, and it cost us CL spot. We can argue and always blame on one player, but what i know is Lucio is no more that Lucio who have won everything, Lucio is no more the same person who were suprime against Drogba and Ibra( there were his bitch ).

I am just saying i rather have Chivu that wont cause problems in dressing room as Lucio would, if we didnt terminate the contract.
Even somehow i believe Lucio did know about the offer to Rubentus, so Rubentus could have him for free " rather them paying inter for Lucios transfer fee, and would most likely cost around 2-3 mill imo if not more.

With all due respect, to say you would rather have Chivu than Lucio is saying you'd rather lose a final than win it.

 

[Scottish_one]

no one wants chivu because he had no value as a defender,

he basically whoarded himself to the world for free but no one wanted him, and he would have had to take a massive pay cut, he soon realized this then cut his losses claiming hes an interista etc.

lucio despite some loss of concentration last season is still an immense defender, he should have been offered a wage cut and kept over Chivu. in terms of ability there's no comparison

 

[IRR26]

I think that Chivu is still here cause it is easier to have him than Lucio as in back up defender role. We will see how it works for Juve but I dont think Lucio can play as rotation player without lots of mistakes. There is also the age difference.

I hope that we dont need to play Chivu that often and if he plays it should be as left back.

 

[MANTA]

Chivu is 3 years younger, and to be honest, he would have had to put up some really crappy performances by his standard to even match Lucio's performances last year. And most of Chivu's crap performances have been at fullback.

2 Years ago you couldn't even compare Lucio and Chivu. Today they are very similar.

 

[Nyall]

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Yes Lucio have won everything there is to win, but to be honest i rather have Chivu, who imo is more of a honest person in terms of not leaving inter for Rubentus or Bbilan who could have offered a contract, just so he could piss off inter.

As well Lucio made big error vs Parma, and it cost us CL spot. We can argue and always blame on one player, but what i know is Lucio is no more that Lucio who have won everything, Lucio is no more the same person who were suprime against Drogba and Ibra( there were his bitch ).

I am just saying i rather have Chivu that wont cause problems in dressing room as Lucio would, if we didnt terminate the contract.
Even somehow i believe Lucio did know about the offer to Rubentus, so Rubentus could have him for free " rather them paying inter for Lucios transfer fee, and would most likely cost around 2-3 mill imo if not more.

ok...


so tell me again how you rather having Chivu who prefers to play every fifth game, and earn millions than to simply GTFO when the club asks him to, makes him better than Lucio ever was?

 

[Scottish_one]

Chivu is 3 years younger, and to be honest, he would have had to put up some really crappy performances by his standard to even match Lucio's performances last year. And most of Chivu's crap performances have been at fullback.

2 Years ago you couldn't even compare Lucio and Chivu. Today they are very similar.

:chan:

 

[Bzzlightyear]

ok...


so tell me again how you rather having Chivu who prefers to play every fifth game, and earn millions than to simply GTFO when the club asks him to, makes him better than Lucio ever was?

We cant get anything better than that. As it stands its hard to buy players now days, and we need players as backups, look if we did buy a new player it would cost as much as just renew his contract, and spend lets say thos 5-10 + million on random defender, and hope he does well, Yes some of you think Chivu isnt worth it and he should leave the club and he doesnt belong here, but if that X or Y player does come as a backup, it will take time for him to settle in and be part of inter, it was logical choice to give a new contract rather spend money on getting backup players.

 

[Domenico]

We cant get anything better than that. As it stands its hard to buy players now days, and we need players as backups, look if we did buy a new player it would cost as much as just renew his contract, and spend lets say thos 5-10 + million on random defender, and hope he does well, Yes some of you think Chivu isnt worth it and he should leave the club and he doesnt belong here, but if that X or Y player does come as a backup, it will take time for him to settle in and be part of inter, it was logical choice to give a new contract rather spend money on getting backup players.

We should be promoting Primavera players as backups though, not re-signing old players who offer next to nothing.

 

[Bzzlightyear]

We should be promoting Primavera players as backups though, not re-signing old players who offer next to nothing.

They are not ready i seen them play, and one of the last game " final VS Milan striker our 2 CB had really hard time to cover him and it cost us one penalty and a goal. even right now you cant compare Primavera CB with Chivu at all.

 

[Domenico]

They are not ready i seen them play, and one of the last game " final VS Milan striker our 2 CB had really hard time to cover him and it cost us one penalty and a goal. even right now you cant compare Primavera CB with Chivu at all.

yes, but Chivu will barely play and he'll have a bigger contract than a lot of the team. But yeah I understand your point, I just want to see young players being given a chance instead of players like Chivu taking up space in the squad.

 

[Scottish_one]

the point is almost every option is better than keeping Chivu on a 2+1 dea of 1.75-3mil deal (7mil-12mil after tax over 2 years)

1. offer lucio a pay cut and tell him hes going to be 3rd-4th choice, if he still wants to go then fair enough
2. Promote youth player(s), obvious advantages + a saving that can be invested somewhere else
3. buy a reasonable CB who can actually defend, even an older one. donst need to be great but of some use

i don't think some of you understand just how useless Chivu is, he cant defend and he can't pass thus he is redundant, this is why he couldnt find another club to take him for free...he whoared himself to Europe for 3 weeks and didnt get an offer!

 

[ajstaiti]

We should be promoting Primavera players as backups though, not re-signing old players who offer next to nothing.

I disagree. Keeping youngsters as backups to never see the field of play is the best way to stunt their growth. Ideally, the best backups are ones with experience: they won't be affected by sitting on the bench because they've already hit their peak and they can prepare themselves in a pinch simply because they've been around long enough to know how to do it.

That's why I'm not totally against the resigning of Chivu. As it seems, he'll be our 4th CB, only to be used in emergency situations. And when you're in the type of crisis where it's necessary to call upon your 4th CB, you want someone who knows what they're doing, not someone you'll have to ease into the job.

Yes, 2.5mil is a tad too much to pay for a player far past his prime. And I do hope he is sparringly used. But let's not kid ourselves, Chivu can be a solid defender when he wants to be. And if resigning Chivu means Juan Jesus and Caldriola wont have to rot on our bench, so be it.

 

[Bzzlightyear]

yes, but Chivu will barely play and he'll have a bigger contract than a lot of the team. But yeah I understand your point, I just want to see young players being given a chance instead of players like Chivu taking up space in the squad.

Look i am not saying he is a best, but what i am trying to say is we need some matured players such as Chivu, we cant change all starting 11 right away, we need this type of players who can support youngsters make sure they dont do the same mistake, and as well changing to much might cause more problems then solve it.

I wish we had Worldclass players for every position even our backups, but we cant afford that right now, and we have to stick up with players such as Chivu.

 

[chipschups]

honestly im good with our current CB,, finally after downgrading my expectation
two mature player/Samuel+chivu, one player at the peak/Silvestre, one promising CB/Ranocchia, and one youngster/Juan
three left foot player/samuel, chivu, juan and two right foot/ranocchia, silvestre

also strama rated him as CB not LB and i believe chivu will take cordoba roles last year, as back up CB,,
and thats a different between him and lucio who demanding first team football,,

from what I know, this chivu renewal is not official, isnt?
but if he get above 2.5m/years i will take a part on bandwagon rages too,, blivious:

 

[Bzzlightyear]

honestly im good with our current CB,, finally after downgrading my expectation
two mature player/Samuel+chivu, one player at the peak/Silvestre, one promising CB/Ranocchia, and one youngster/Juan
three left foot player/samuel, chivu, juan and two right foot/ranocchia, silvestre

also strama rated him as CB not LB and i believe chivu will take cordoba roles last year, as back up CB,,
and thats a different between him and lucio who demanding first team football,,

from what I know, this chivu renewal is not official, isnt?
but if he get above 2.5m/years i will take a part on bandwagon rages too,, blivious:

Yes its official he even talked about: here what he have said


PINZOLO - His new contract has been signed and Cristian Chivu knows exactly what he wants to achieve as he told Inter Channel: "I'm really pleased to be here still. That was what I wanted to do from the very beginning, then the talks went on a bit too long for a variety of reasons and because I was on holiday we negotiated it on the phone. It took three weeks but we managed to get there in the end."
Now it's time to look to the future: "I accepted the new project and I'm happy and proud that the club had enough faith in me to let the project go on. My role and my position? These are tactical matters. I'm willing to play and I was told that I'd be playing in a more central position rather than at full back, then we'll see what's needed when the season is underway."

It's been a season full of ups and downs: "First of all no one wants to go through another season like last year; sometimes a bad year can make you see how important it is when things go well. It's important that the younger players understand this, using our past achievements as an example. Then with all of our experience we can try and give them an idea of the enthusiasm, the strength and sacrifice that went into those achievements. It doesn't take much to turn a season around. When you are used to winning you want to keep on winning and we have been an example of this since 2005. The will to win is there because if it hadn't been we wouldn't have managed to win so many matches."

"The preparation stages are fundamental in order to lay the foundations for the work to follow," continued the Romanian defender, "they charge our batteries for the season and create the base. We'll try to do our best in the Europa League. We want to go all the way and we have Atletico Madrid as an example. They started from the preliminary rounds and and went on to win the tournament."
Personal goals, but "those aren't the right words because we are all part of a team and we all have to work together to contribute to the success of the team," said Chivu: "Definitely keeping fit physically and mentally, because winning helps you work better because it's easier to work when you are winning, whereas it's more difficult when you lose."

Finally, on the subject of the young players who have joined the Nerazzurri this season: "I think we are fortunate to have a healthy youth academy and when these youngsters have the opportunity to train alongside the first team, they can only improve."


From http://www.inter.it/aas/news/reader?N=40244&L=en