Christian Vieri

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I totally agree with Handoyo there. C'mmon Frisko, how would he clean his face then ?? The cricket thing is also nothing but a very very tiny issue, which shouldn't be brought up at all. I was damn sad and angry with Vieri when he moved to Milan but it's over now. Last but not the least, during his spell with us, except in the last stages, Vieri did what he was supposed to do - score goals.

{I am not a Vieri fan but a person should be respected for what he gave to the club. Yeah, he could have earned a bit of more respect from me had he not joined Milan, but still it's ok};)

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It's sure true that love blinds people. If you wish to just keep counting Vieri's goals and forget about everything else he's done, fine, but I don't think any amount of goals can let you get away with disrespect towards your club and fans.

Vieri has pulled A LOT of shit while at Inter.

- After Crespo was sold, he openly attacked the club for that choice (unprofessional, he had all the rights to do it but not through the media, that should have been done behind closed doors).

- Following Crespo and Ronaldo's departure, he asked to be sold to Juventus (well known fact, Moratti talked about it himself). Moratti said no. So how come that when Materazzi asked to be LOANED to Bologna to play and prove his worth, he was treated like garbage by many of you here, and Vieri gets a totally different treatment?

- Vieri wasn't the same player after Korea 2002. He just stopped being a poacher, he would miss easy goals when one of his strongest point had always been his natural instinct for goal.

That caused fans starting to have a go at him. He's a professional and should know better than react strongly to something like that. Every player gets it sooner or later. But he did, and stopped celebrating his goals and instead simply wiped his face and spat while walking back in his own half. I never said that's a mortal sin, but the thousands of people who traveled to Milan and were there shouting his name after a goal wanted to see something a little different, don't you think?

And he kept this up for ages, not just a couple of weeks, he just kept going. When he scored and I was just following the game on gazzetta.it, I was thinking to myself "let's hope he celebrated this time, so we can move on".

- Vieri refused to come on as a sub when Zaccheroni was the coach during an Inter v Bologna game, using some pathetic excuse like 'Due to my body shape I can't just play 10 minutes'. That was another big sign of desrespect.

- At the end of the 2004-05 season he came out saying that he had to be a starter next season. Then he was nowhere to be seen during the Coppa Italia final. Then he agreed to cancel his contract with Inter and went straight across the street to AC Milan.

I'm fine with keep loving a player even when he leaves, it's natural that for some people the positive memories just outweigh the negative ones. But pleaseee stop describing Vieri like a saint who did everything right and was just treated wrong by everyone, fans, club and everybody else.

He has big responsibilities, and he made a lot of bad choices. He has never loved any of his clubs or fans, he plays for money and that is fact. You're ok with it? Good. You say there's many more players who do it? Fine, that doesn't change anything.

How you can possibly think that he could be welcomed back at the S Siro by our fans is just beyond my understanding. He was treated like a pig when he came back, and he deserved every bit of it if you ask me.
 

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Again, you avoided my question about shirt, sweat & spit...

No one here is claiming that Vieri is a saint; but just because he made mistakes doesn't mean that we should stop supporting him. And for sure, we consider 122 goals >>> his antics.

Adriano pulled a lot of $hit on us too, Frisko.
  1. Going clubbing on the night before the final training session of the biggest game in his Inter career [Inter - Juventus (12 Feb 2006)]
  2. "Happy in Brazil, do well in Brazil; unhappy in Inter, do badly in Inter," while the truth is he sucks in both
  3. Criticising the team openly saying that they don't have winning mentalities when he's probably the laziest slob on the pitch for the last few matches
  4. Returning from Brazil late (Can't remember when
So how come YOU still support Adriano but not Vieri? ;)


Hand;)yo
 

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Once again you get around issues regarding Vieri by comparing him with others, why don't you just stick to the issues? Adriano has pulled some shit for sure, but fact is that most of this was reported by questionable sources and debated on here as they were words coming out of his mouth. Vieri's situation was totally different.

What's to avoid about your questions on sweat and spit? You just twist my words making it sound like I think those things are forbidden by taking it out of context. It's fine to spit but you don't do it instead of celebrating your phuckin goals, as I said there are people in the stands who are shouting your name, what's your response to that? Being a stroppy cow? Keeping that up for months?
 

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Handoyo said:
So is a lot of other players. Roberto Baggio played for all the big clubs in Italy, why the hell doesn't he get the same treatment as Vieri? Because he plays football as a profession, as his work, as his way of living.

Maybe because he never disrespected the fans of a team like Bobo did...

Again, he WAS a Milan player at that time.

No, he was a scum, and he'll remain a scum. It was the lack of respect by moving to Milan, and he didn't do anything to regain that respect since he left for Monaco.

I definitely criticise Vieri for his choice to go to Milan, it was the easiest choice and he made it without respect for Interisti and Moratti. But it wasn't as if he did that on purpose to insult us.

He made it without respect because he doesn't care about respect, so why does he expect respect?
 

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Han, it's OK to spit, but not as a goal celebration... :rolleyes:

About Adriano: as Frisko said those were debatable sources so I wouldn't talk about that clubbing and some suspicious "South American newspaper interviews".
Oh he sucks in the NT too? Hmmm, I kinda remember him holding a "Top goalscorer" and a "Best player" award after the Confederations Cup less than a year ago. My memory must be bad...

Anyways this was off topic.
 

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Why would he concentrate on making friends with Inter while at Monaco? He actually had a job to do there during the thickest part of the season. I suppose you would like to call it disrespecting Monaco if he focused on Inter while there. This is not a reasonable thing to demand from a footballer hired by another club in another country!

Bobo was finished with Inter the moment his contract was ripped apart. Deal with it. Maybe sometime when he has retired he'll look back and talk, but not while playing elsewhere.
 

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Frisko, one question.

If you lived in London and worked for a company that decided they didn't want you any more after you'd had a rough 6 months there and you had 2 choices..

choice A - move to rival company within London, keep your home, friends and everything you know close to you..

choice B - move to spain to get a similar job out of respect to those who just ditched you..

Pick..

I know for sure it wouldn't be choice B in my case.

If u say B, i'll find it 99% impossible to believe that.
 

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Katiey, you have a realy good point there, but I don't think it works in football. ;)

A big football club like Inter, running since 1908, isn't like some company.

Inter has fans, companies have customers. ;)

Companies are only for money, even for the owner. Inter is money + glory. ;)
And I'm a Vieri fan btw. ;)

I'll go for choice B if I played for a club ( even a small club ) for 6 years ( specialy if I was #1 for my fans ).
 

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Katie your view of the situation is very flattering towards Vieri, he was the one suddenly coming out asking for an assurance for a place in the starting 11 for the following season, which was obviously unreasonable.

Also, even if he was angry/bitter towards the club, what about the thousands of fans? Couldn't he make a sacrifice and choose another team out of respect/love for them?

You heard of Liverani refusing more money from Roma and moving to Fiorentina instead? That was just out of love for the Lazio fans, he said "I couldn't have moved to Roma, it was a better deal but I couldn't do that to the Lazio fans". I bet that never crossed Vieri's mind.
 

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I'll modify Katie's question a bit:

If a company would be employing you as a cleaner although you think you're capable of being CEO (although no one else thinks that) and you would leave, you'd choose:

A - another company in the same city, to keep the home and friends, but only assured of another cleaner's job

B - A company in a distant place which is not as bid as "A", but therefore they can offer you the job of a CEO.

If you'd say "A", I'll be tempted not to believe it. ;)
 

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Frisko said:
Vieri has pulled A LOT of shit while at Inter.

1. Following Crespo and Ronaldo's departure, he asked to be sold to Juventus (well known fact, Moratti talked about it himself). Moratti said no. So how come that when Materazzi asked to be LOANED to Bologna to play and prove his worth, he was treated like garbage by many of you here, and Vieri gets a totally different treatment?

2. Vieri wasn't the same player after Korea 2002. He just stopped being a poacher, he would miss easy goals when one of his strongest point had always been his natural instinct for goal.


3. Vieri refused to come on as a sub when Zaccheroni was the coach during an Inter v Bologna game, using some pathetic excuse like 'Due to my body shape I can't just play 10 minutes'. That was another big sign of desrespect.

1. That's because Vieri is twice the player Materazzi will ever be and he was worth way more than Materazzi was to this club.

2. Bullshit. In 2004/05 when he found his form he was our most consistent striker and had 1 goal less than Adriano and probably player half the number of games.

Also, Vieri never accepted the bench and that's another plus. He knew he was too good for it, he knew he was better than anyone else up front.

:lol: @
Also, even if he was angry/bitter towards the club, what about the thousands of fans? Couldn't he make a sacrifice and choose another team out of respect/love for them?

LOL :lol: Who the f-ck cares about fans? If I were rich, I wouldn't give a f-ck about them. They don't give me my paycheck at the end of the week and they only make things harder for me. Hey, at Milan I'll have new fans why the f-ck would I want the Inter ones.

Again Frisko, both you and Puma take this player love bullshit to a whole new level. Javier Zanetti doesn't give a shit about you, don't think he does for one second.
 

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1. That's because Vieri is twice the player Materazzi will ever be and he was worth way more than Materazzi was to this club.

2. Bullshit. In 2004/05 when he found his form he was our most consistent striker and had 1 goal less than Adriano and probably player half the number of games.

Also, Vieri never accepted the bench and that's another plus. He knew he was too good for it, he knew he was better than anyone else up front.

:lol: @

LOL :lol: Who the f-ck cares about fans? If I were rich, I wouldn't give a f-ck about them. They don't give me my paycheck at the end of the week and they only make things harder for me. Hey, at Milan I'll have new fans why the f-ck would I want the Inter ones.

Again Frisko, both you and Puma take this player love bullshit to a whole new level. Javier Zanetti doesn't give a shit about you, don't think he does for one second.
Lol Mike you have some nerve talking about bullshit, they could use your last post as the definition of bullshit in the dictionary.

Mike said:
Vieri never accepted the bench and that's another plus. He knew he was too good for it, he knew he was better than anyone else up front.
That was a hell of a joke, I laughed my ass off, too bad you were serious.
 

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Frisko said:
Once again you get around issues regarding Vieri by comparing him with others, why don't you just stick to the issues? Adriano has pulled some shit for sure, but fact is that most of this was reported by questionable sources and debated on here as they were words coming out of his mouth. Vieri's situation was totally different.
Questionable sources? Those are words from his own mouth and he has so far done nothing to deny them. Recall, in the past, if there is anything questionable coming out of his mouth, Inter and Adriano has always had a press conference to clarify things.

Frisko said:
What's to avoid about your questions on sweat and spit? You just twist my words making it sound like I think those things are forbidden by taking it out of context. It's fine to spit but you don't do it instead of celebrating your phuckin goals, as I said there are people in the stands who are shouting your name, what's your response to that? Being a stroppy cow? Keeping that up for months?
As far as I can remember, Vieri scored no crucial goals during the time when he was in moody-mood. For example, the 6-0 against Reggina. No problemo if he refused to celebrate this useless goals.

But when he scored a crucial one, like his 100th for Inter, look at how he celebrated.

Zamat said:
Maybe because he never disrespected the fans of a team like Bobo did...
Still, what Vieri has done to us is 10 times that of Baggio.

Zamat said:
No, he was a scum, and he'll remain a scum. It was the lack of respect by moving to Milan, and he didn't do anything to regain that respect since he left for Monaco.
What was he supposed to do? If anything, he should be praised for moving to Monaco because it ultimately proved that Vieri isn't all about the money.

Zamat said:
He made it without respect because he doesn't care about respect, so why does he expect respect?
I'm not saying that he deserves respect when he was a Milan player. Hell, I also booed him when he was in Milan.
 

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Anyways I'll stop arguing with Frisko cuz Vieri hurt his feelings :cry:

Vieri is willing to accept a 75% paycut at Sampdoria ($850 000 a year) and he cancelled his contract at Monaco. All I can say about that is FORZA SAMPDORIA and if we ever play them I hope Vieri scores against us and one last time does his silence celebration in front of the Curva...and they applaud him.

That's what's gonna happen I'm f-cking feeling it.
 
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I think vieri's move to milan was one because he wanted to stay in milan,the guy is a legend to me,he stayed for 6 years,he was never an interista before he came,he came here as a player who once played with juve,but he came and despite his much travelled past, stayed alot with us.

He stayed with us for 6 years and scored a log of goals,he was treated so bad by fans but he never said anything,damn some of the fans even bombed or attacked his restaurant for crying out loud,he got alot of boos,but he still neve said anything,the only yhing i remeber him saying was in 2004/2005 when he scored and was substiuted,he got a standing ovation but he didnt clap,so he was asked about it and he said he thanked them but the boos were always hard.

If you hate him because his milan move than i say meazza,our BIG legend did it,and even if he said it was a mistake,fact remains that HE STILL WENT,and you cant argue with that fact.

Aslo i was just thinking about it,he stayed with is until he was 32 years old...and his number since he camed to inter was 32...strange.

Forza Bobo.
 

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Frisko said:
Vieri has pulled A LOT of shit while at Inter.

Of course he has and so have so many other players too (incl. your favorites Adriano and Ronaldo). I've said it earlier that you can take a shitload from Ronaldo or Adriano, but they still remain to be your favorite. Well it's the same thing for me when it comes to Vieri.

- After Crespo was sold, he openly attacked the club for that choice (unprofessional, he had all the rights to do it but not through the media, that should have been done behind closed doors).

Well first of all, he was right. He did the same when we sold Ronaldo. Of course he was worried for our club's sake, but true, he should've said it in private. On the other hand there are several other players who should've kept their mouths shut and not attack the club in public. This is part of football and I can accept this. But in the end he was RIGHT in his declarations, unlike a dimwit like Veron, who made a totally useless attack on Adriano. Still you remain to be a Veron-fan, right?

- Following Crespo and Ronaldo's departure, he asked to be sold to Juventus (well known fact, Moratti talked about it himself). Moratti said no. So how come that when Materazzi asked to be LOANED to Bologna to play and prove his worth, he was treated like garbage by many of you here, and Vieri gets a totally different treatment?

He was angry and wanted the club to make reinforcements or he might leave. That's not so rare either. This "well known fact" is something what amuses me, but I'll continue on that later.

- Vieri wasn't the same player after Korea 2002. He just stopped being a poacher, he would miss easy goals when one of his strongest point had always been his natural instinct for goal.

It's true, he never came back to same form, but is it a reason to hate him?? Still he was a good goalscorer after the WC2002, but not a great one as he used to be. I still didn't see no reason to stop supporting him, hell in those circumstances he needs more support. It's just that our fans are so plain stupid and start booing when actually the player needs support. Vieri's not the first one to get the treatment. Dalmat, Wome, Morfeo etc. Booing your own players is probably the stupidest thing you can do, it's simply a favor for the opponent who are supposed to boo our players. Do those morons actually think that for example Morfeo felt more confident when he gets the boos?? Look at him now. He was more than ok last season.

But he did, and stopped celebrating his goals and instead simply wiped his face and spat while walking back in his own half.

He wanted to show, that those morons in curva should learn to behave. If your fans supported our team and players no matter what, maybe we would've won something since 1989. If you're not gonna support your team, then just shut the fuck up and stay home.

- Vieri refused to come on as a sub when Zaccheroni was the coach during an Inter v Bologna game, using some pathetic excuse like 'Due to my body shape I can't just play 10 minutes'. That was another big sign of desrespect.

That happened once and who the hell is this clown-Zaccheroni anyway? Calls himself an interista and is the first one to offer his services for Giuve. I had no respect for Zaccheroni and I'm only glad that neither did Vieri.

- At the end of the 2004-05 season he came out saying that he had to be a starter next season. Then he was nowhere to be seen during the Coppa Italia final. Then he agreed to cancel his contract with Inter and went straight across the street to AC Milan.

What he was supposed to do? Beg for mercy and ask Moratti that he can pay for Inter just to let him stay, because he loves the team so much? Grow up. If the club wanted him out, then I see nothing wrong him wanting to leave.

Where did he say exactly that he wants a guaranteed starter position? What's your source on that? How come you have lots of these facts on what Vieri said and they are all from reliable sources, when in the other hand everything what Adriano or Ronaldo has said are from unreliable sources?

I'm fine with keep loving a player even when he leaves, it's natural that for some people the positive memories just outweigh the negative ones. But pleaseee stop describing Vieri like a saint who did everything right and was just treated wrong by everyone, fans, club and everybody else.

He sure as hell isn't a saint, but I like him because he doesn't want to take shit from nobody and most of all because he was a goalscoring machine.

He has big responsibilities, and he made a lot of bad choices. He has never loved any of his clubs or fans, he plays for money and that is fact. You're ok with it? Good. You say there's many more players who do it? Fine, that doesn't change anything.

Most of the players play for money, but they still like the game, so did Vieri. It would be childish to think that the players are all for the club since they aren't. That's in the past.

How you can possibly think that he could be welcomed back at the S Siro by our fans is just beyond my understanding. He was treated like a pig when he came back, and he deserved every bit of it if you ask me.

I'm pretty sure he'll never be welcomed back by our curva and that's fine. If a player leaves for our rival, then there's no need to welcome him back and I'm not asking for it.

I'm not gonna say much on this matter any more, but I'll say this. This whole thing is about the fact that you dislike/hate Vieri and are just looking for excuses to hate him. You can stopi it, just say it out loud that he's a wanker and you don't have to justify your opinion.

I think Ronaldo is a big fat ***hole and I do hate him. I dislike also Adriano actually for no reason. For some reason I liked for example Zamorano much more even though Adriano is more skillful. This is how it is, one likes the daughter, the other one the mother and the third adores the father...
 

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I dont think peope realize how painfull it is to be booed by your own fans,and he didnt even say anything to the media about the fans,he just didnt celebrate to show the them that they shoulnt boo him.

And lol first ronaldo is sold,we get crespo,a great striker,had a great season,top scorer in the CL,then we also sell him,lol i think i was angrier with that decision more than vieri was.
 

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Someone posted that Vieri is close joining to Sampdoria and now you guys (only few though) are - yet again - arguing how much of a bastard he is. :lol: When you dont like the guy, then why do you keep reading stuff about him? I dont like chubbie €naldo, but i dont say it every time there are news about him. It´s getting really boring after a while...

Frisko, most post (by far!) in this thread and all of them are "hate mails". Legend! :alien:
 
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Jake hell of a post there bro.

I too am finished on this matter because I'm pretty tired of repeating the same things when I see Frisko posting some dumb Curva Nord picture of "BOBO MERDA" or something like that and putting an emoticon next to it.
 
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