Antonio Conte

[forzainter257]

You realize that Inter employs several hundred people and a lot of them have information on a lot of things, right? You don't need Ausilio or Marotta to tell you that Zhang and Conte will talk on Skype. A freaking secretary and a maintenance guy have access to that information.

And i hope you do realize he didn't call Steven from the taxophone in the hall?

 

[brakbrak]

People keep bringing up Dzeko as if it was the management fault that he wasn't here where in fact he renewed with Roma.

 

[brehme1989]

god, you'd almost think we had our worst season in a decade, not our best...

ridiculous post tbh.

It was also our most expensive season. In over a decade.

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And i hope you do realize he didn't call Steven from the taxophone in the hall?

Yeap, he speed dialled him from his phone, that's why he was publicly asking to talk to him. He was just looking for his phone number.

Do you not understand that such a meeting, whether face to face, or via teleconference, is arranged by several people that you have never heard their names? You think Conte just clicks a button and talks to Zhang?

Not many people have that kind of working relationship at the club.

 

[forzainter257]

It was also our most expensive season. In over a decade.

And the wisest

 

[K.I.]

god, you'd almost think we had our worst season in a decade, not our best...

ridiculous post tbh.

Ur entitled to think whatever of the post, is still true, i said why Inter finished 2nd and crashed out of the CL. Also it was the best season bec by Inter Standards they have been underachieving for the last 2 decades apart from the treble season, so even if its technically the best season by ur standards or by statistics, by Inter standards its still garbage because the bar has been so low.

 

[.h.]

Ur entitled to think whatever of the post, is still true, i said why Inter finished 2nd and crashed out of the CL. Also it was the best season bec by Inter Standards they have been underachieving for the last 2 decades apart from the treble season, so even if its technically the best season by ur standards or by statistics, by Inter standards its still garbage because the bar has been so low.

Christ, the negativity. Lets maybe take the view that we scraped the CL by 8 minutes last season, this time round we did it with 4 games to spare. Huge improvements, and hopefully it continues next season.

Also, if Lukaku is one of the worst strikers in history, I look forward to seeing all those great motherfuckers who score more than 23 league goals and 29 goals in their debut season in a new league in Italy.

Just out of interest, when do you think we have met our expectations aside from the treble? Last time was 1965 i guess?

 

[K.I.]

Christ, the negativity.

Just out of interest, when do you think we have met our expectations aside from the treble? Last time was 1965 i guess?

Winning the leagues with Mancini, the Uefa Cup win, going to the last day in 2002, CL semi in 03, losing is a part of sports but at least the club and the players were close to a tittle during that time.

I wouldnt know what happened in 65, if i go back there i will let u know.

 

[.h.]

Winning the leagues with Mancini, the Uefa Cup win, going to the last day in 2002, CL semi in 03, losing is a part of sports but at least the club and the players were close to a tittle during that time.

I wouldnt know what happened in 65, if i go back there i will let u know.

What? You said the last two decades (2000-2020) Inter has been underachieving according to our standards, except for when we won the treble. I'm not asking 'what if', I'm simply wondering when you felt Inter hit our expectations.

Because if the only time Inter has hit your expectations was the first ever treble in Italian history, then maybe your expectations need adjusting. Real Madrid is that way --->

 

[monster09]

I read about Conte but few things I didn't understand, what does he mean by "didn't protect coach and players"? I mean if he meant management talking to media rubbishing few speculations then that would surely open can of worms?

They will rubbish one rumor then the media/fans will start with "management even thought about rubbishing that rumor means there is some truth in it, otherwise why didn't they rubbish the old other rumor"?

Then there will be one more rumor and management won't talk about it, then media/fans will be "management spoke about rumor 1 but didn't talk anything about rumor 2, which means rumor 2 must be true".

All this is assumption that Conte was pissed off that Inter management didnt end some media speculations. IMO this is the best time to build on the season and win league next season, Juventus don't look anywhere good enough, couple of smart signings and good start to the league would help Inter so much.

If he is really sensitive about these media speculations then he should grow thicker skin, I mean it's near impossible to stop media isn't it.

If this is about backing in the transfer market then this would be very interesting summer. I always thought Inter had one of the best windows when they signed so many players for Conte. Even proactively signed great RWB for next season.

 

[K.I.]

What? You said the last two decades (2000-2020) Inter has been underachieving according to our standards, except for when we won the treble. I'm not asking 'what if', I'm simply wondering when you felt Inter hit our expectations.

Because if the only time Inter has hit your expectations was the first ever treble in Italian history, then maybe your expectations need adjusting. Real Madrid is that way --->

I never said my expectations, i Said the clubs and Fans expectations, i suspect suportive fans on the forum and Inter fans in italy. If it met ur expectations thats good to hear.

And i did mention times where i was following where Inter did lose titles but like i said at least they were competing, which is where the club should always be in my opinion with the amount of money that has been spent over the last 30 years. The treble season was actually an Overachievement compared to what the club and the mgt prob had expectations wise.

Maybe you know more than me what the targets should be for Inter and if they meet ur expectations that a good thing then? or i it not good? im confused u seem like telling me what to post so u decide.

I read about Conte but few things I didn't understand, what does he mean by "didn't protect coach and players"? I mean if he meant management talking to media rubbishing few speculations then that would surely open can of worms?

They will rubbish one rumor then the media/fans will start with "management even thought about rubbishing that rumor means there is some truth in it, otherwise why didn't they rubbish the old other rumor"?

Then there will be one more rumor and management won't talk about it, then media/fans will be "management spoke about rumor 1 but didn't talk anything about rumor 2, which means rumor 2 must be true".

All this is assumption that Conte was pissed off that Inter management didnt end some media speculations. IMO this is the best time to build on the season and win league next season, Juventus don't look anywhere good enough, couple of smart signings and good start to the league would help Inter so much.

If he is really sensitive about these media speculations then he should grow thicker skin, I mean it's near impossible to stop media isn't it.

If this is about backing in the transfer market then this would be very interesting summer. I always thought Inter had one of the best windows when they signed so many players for Conte. Even proactively signed great RWB for next season.

A lot of coaches dont like the media asking them pressuring questions, they also dont think the fans or media have a place in football since they are not "the coache or the player so they dont know wha they are saying", thats kinda the mentaility i see from some of these clowns like Marotta, Conte, Spaletti etc. Who just like to cry for no reason

 

[forzainter257]

The management had to require from FIGC fairer schedule with equal resting times. The management had to appeal on Skriniar's, Sanchez's ban. The management had to clearly state their position regarding players and the coach instead of vague shit like "we will see", on and on...
He said if we want to win shit, we have to be strong everywhere

 

[.h.]

I never said my expectations, i Said the clubs and Fans expectations, i suspect suportive fans on the forum and Inter fans in italy. If it met ur expectations thats good to hear.

And i did mention times where i was following where Inter did lose titles but like i said at least they were competing, which is where the club should always be in my opinion with the amount of money that has been spent over the last 30 years. The treble season was actually an Overachievement compared to what the club and the mgt prob had expectations wise.

Maybe you know more than me what the targets should be for Inter and if they meet ur expectations that a good thing then? or i it not good? im confused u seem like telling me what to post so u decide.

Inter as a club, I want to see us consistently in the top 4 challenging for the league title. No doubt about that. And no doubt the last 10 years have been a big disappointment for us.

That being said, considering 2 years in a row we made CL on the LAST DAY, i'll happily take a situation where we've competed NEARLY to the wire with Juve for the title, and made +20 points relative to them since last season.

The problem I have is when expectations are too high - people expect us to go from 7th to 1st in a season, and when we fail to do that, we sack the manager and replace him and have another Year Zero. Moreso now than ever before, because of the financial side of football, you can only get there by incremental building. I'd be surprised if a small club ever won the CL again, for example.

We made substantial progress this year vs last year, and I'd like to see us make the same progress again next season.

 

[K.I.]

Inter as a club, I want to see us consistently in the top 4 challenging for the league title. No doubt about that. And no doubt the last 10 years have been a big disappointment for us.

That being said, considering 2 years in a row we made CL on the LAST DAY, i'll happily take a situation where we've competed NEARLY to the wire with Juve for the title, and made +20 points relative to them since last season.

The problem I have is when expectations are too high - people expect us to go from 7th to 1st in a season, and when we fail to do that, we sack the manager and replace him and have another Year Zero. Moreso now than ever before, because of the financial side of football, you can only get there by incremental building. I'd be surprised if a small club ever won the CL again, for example.

We made substantial progress this year vs last year, and I'd like to see us make the same progress again next season.

Thats perfectly fine, my point was it shouldn't take the last day to make the CL where u as a supporter would happily take almost taking Juve to the wire, why was there 20+ point gap to begin with thats my point.

No i prob have no expectations, i still watched some games with family but i dont follow Inter like i used to but my post was referring to Contes rant and why he finished second, not u or anyones exceptions on the team u support.

 

[.h.]

Thats kinda my point though. To you we finished 2nd because we fucked up. To me we finished 2nd because we succeeded.

 

[n4l]

The management had to require from FIGC fairer schedule with equal resting times.

Do you know that they didn't? Do you realize that all clubs had representatives building the schedule? Did you stop to think for a minute that maybe, just maybe, management didn't think it would make a difference and not worth fighting?

The rest times ended being a purely theoretical exercise, since in practice, we ended 2nd best performance-wise (Milan 1st I think). Atalanta 3rd. And all of us had "negative" relative-rest times.

The management had to appeal on Skriniar's, Sanchez's ban.

You know that they didn't? Or that they knew it was futile? Can you tell me how many times Marotta appealed bans on Juve players?

The management had to clearly state their position regarding players and the coach instead of vague shit like "we will see", on and on...

They stated their position on the LM10 situation quite clearly. On other players, it is literal rumor bullshit. No club can continue responding to every single rumor. That much is obvious.

Regarding the coach, again, I challenge you, blue9 and others. Post every single Marotta interview this season. He has said, unequivocally, many times that he is happy with the work of the coach. When we signed Conte he said the best signing was Conte. He's backed up those words by doing our most expensive transfer mercato in almost 20 years. He went out in January and signed 3 players to fill gaps for the coach. Would've been 4 if not for Chelsea. He signed Hakimi right away to satisfy Conte's formation demands. PLEASE HELP ME UNDERSTAND HOW ELSE IS MAROTTA SUPPOSED TO "BACK" THE COACH.

And keep in mind, the ONLY times there's rumors about the coach position is because said coach goes and makes a fuss.

He said if we want to win shit, we have to be strong everywhere

And we have been strong on all fronts, hence the improved performance this season. We won't win shit if this is his whiny demeanor, casting blame everywhere and creating tension when quite literally, he is supported like crazy by Inter hierarchy and there's no issues until he opens his fucking mouth.

 

[forzainter257]

n4l, kudos to your responses, somewhat agree, but when I said management and when Conte said "the club must..." i don't think he meant Marotta alone.

Edit: the fact that our representative fucked up with agreeing with the schedule shouldn't be left unnoticed and it's good that Conte mentioned in media, cause with our passive club we fans would probably not know about it and it's a warning message to figc, that eventhough Inter is blind to their tricks there is is still someone who can reveal them

 

[Luka]

Honestly, reading this thread is so ironic at times.

Lets start with the fact (to be consistent) that imo saying all of these things by Conte, even if true, out in the open was no good. Would like to know the reasons (if there were any) with Conte why he did that, but my guess would be that it was mostly emotional outburst, not some methodical plan. Again, even if it was valid (and don't know completely if it was), it's a big no no to do it out in the open and I did not like that one bit.

So, with that said, I have to say that sometimes I think Inter supporters must be the dumbest supporters ever and the easiest to influence by these corrupt media people. Think about it. If somebody hates our guts, what is the worst that can happen and with what you'll fight? The possibility of Inter getting back to the top. And from the way media portrays it, it looks like the apocalypse at Inter is about to start and it makes sense. A grave most of the italian media are not our friends. They will make anything at Inter as the end of the world. Anything. You read all those lawyers, media pundits, they all don't want us at the path we're at, so they will make the most of the situation. And I don't see any difference here on the forums when I read the comments from many of the posters.

But what are the facts? The facts are that Inter are gaining on to jube. Which means what? We're starting to be bigger and bigger threat to them. Making a big media buzz, trying to make anybody do any additional mistake that would result in us starting all over again with somebody new is the best outcome they can get. Conte staying, building stronger team here is the worst that can happen.

Conte words, although emotional and said at the wrong time (imo), do convey some message and things that if improved, will help the team. Ofcourse anti-Inter people will laugh at those words (not by the fact he said anything at all) and will try to ridicule him, while the people with Inter in heart will rather focus on the line like "Why say it in public?". But very few from media or pundits commenting on it are doing the latter. Most are already focusing on who will coach Inter the next season, which is the best what jube and it's affiliates can wish for. I don't think it will happen on Marotta's watch.

So I'm not saying not talk about it and ignore it. I'm just saying to keep things into proportion (for now) and stay calm. Conte is emotional. But Marotta is not.

I think Conte behave badly, suprisingly, but I also believe it's blown completely out of proportion. I think it will end up how some expect, which is that he will still be here. Marotta would not bring him here otherwise and it would have to be a complete meltdown to make it happen, and I'm wondering what meltdown? Players are not in a war with Conte. He, although not setting the world on fire at Inter, had objectively a solid season with anticipated and expected progress from last season. Things are going in right direction, so why fire him? I think papers pro milan, roma and jube would never do this, because this is an obvious harm to those teams. But that's not the game played with Inter.

Lastly, I think we know much too little (still) to discuss it properly. We don't have response from Marotta or Zhang, we don't have a second interview with Conte (probably pre Getafe). Like some said, a few days and this case might be dead in a water already. Yet, media are doing anything they can, as is the case for decades, to damage us in the most way. Yes, we sometimes give them reasons too, but both things can be true at the same time. We can do things we shouldn't do, and media could overblow 99% of the stories with us to damage our team and I think at which I'm more angry.

 

[Harpsabu]

Conte finished second because he refused to integrated a good playmaker in the team, plays a trash 3 at the back, plays a number 5 midfielder who to call a professional football player is a joke, lost 2 head to heads, blew every lead possible, choked in a loss after being up 1-0, choked against dortmund, signed one of the worst strikers in history, made bad subs most of the time, him and the team are responsible for this not just him for sure and there were injuries but in general...shall i go on?

Also this is coming from someone who actually didn't mind Conte coaching Inter and hoped Lukaku would do well when he joined. Yes people might hate him, but that has nothing to do with the validity of their claims, regardless of personal feelings towards the guy, they can sill see through the bullshit.

My word, I got like 3 lines through before stopping... Lol eriksen has had plenty of chances and been trash, that's not Contes fault, literally all of his other signings have integrated, the players we complained about, lukaku, young, moses, even players like Sensi, barella. He integrated them all, fuck eriksen. If eriksen can't win his spot that's his problem and marotta for going and getting him.

Also, a trash 3 at the back. Yes, the formation that gave us the best defense and second best attack, trash indeed.

 

[K.I.]

My word, I got like 3 lines through before stopping... Lol eriksen has had plenty of chances and been trash, that's not Contes fault, literally all of his other signings have integrated, the players we complained about, lukaku, young, moses, even players like Sensi, barella. He integrated them all, fuck eriksen. If eriksen can't win his spot that's his problem and marotta for going and getting him.

Also, a trash 3 at the back. Yes, the formation that gave us the best defense and second best attack, trash indeed.

He didnt get pletny of chances, Conte may have approved the transfer a well we dont know, and yes 3 at the back is a trash formation.

Dont worry though, Gagliardini will continue to start along with Valero, and soon Skriniar, Brozovic and Eriksen will be sold so everything is looking good for Conte.

 

[brakbrak]

Honestly, reading this thread is so ironic at times.

Lets start with the fact (to be consistent) that imo saying all of these things by Conte, even if true, out in the open was no good. Would like to know the reasons (if there were any) with Conte why he did that, but my guess would be that it was mostly emotional outburst, not some methodical plan. Again, even if it was valid (and don't know completely if it was), it's a big no no to do it out in the open and I did not like that one bit.

So, with that said, I have to say that sometimes I think Inter supporters must be the dumbest supporters ever and the easiest to influence by these corrupt media people. Think about it. If somebody hates our guts, what is the worst that can happen and with what you'll fight? The possibility of Inter getting back to the top. And from the way media portrays it, it looks like the apocalypse at Inter is about to start and it makes sense. A grave most of the italian media are not our friends. They will make anything at Inter as the end of the world. Anything. You read all those lawyers, media pundits, they all don't want us at the path we're at, so they will make the most of the situation. And I don't see any difference here on the forums when I read the comments from many of the posters.

But what are the facts? The facts are that Inter are gaining on to jube. Which means what? We're starting to be bigger and bigger threat to them. Making a big media buzz, trying to make anybody do any additional mistake that would result in us starting all over again with somebody new is the best outcome they can get. Conte staying, building stronger team here is the worst that can happen.

Conte words, although emotional and said at the wrong time (imo), do convey some message and things that if improved, will help the team. Ofcourse anti-Inter people will laugh at those words (not by the fact he said anything at all) and will try to ridicule him, while the people with Inter in heart will rather focus on the line like "Why say it in public?". But very few from media or pundits commenting on it are doing the latter. Most are already focusing on who will coach Inter the next season, which is the best what jube and it's affiliates can wish for. I don't think it will happen on Marotta's watch.

So I'm not saying not talk about it and ignore it. I'm just saying to keep things into proportion (for now) and stay calm. Conte is emotional. But Marotta is not.

I think Conte behave badly, suprisingly, but I also believe it's blown completely out of proportion. I think it will end up how some expect, which is that he will still be here. Marotta would not bring him here otherwise and it would have to be a complete meltdown to make it happen, and I'm wondering what meltdown? Players are not in a war with Conte. He, although not setting the world on fire at Inter, had objectively a solid season with anticipated and expected progress from last season. Things are going in right direction, so why fire him? I think papers pro milan, roma and jube would never do this, because this is an obvious harm to those teams. But that's not the game played with Inter.

Lastly, I think we know much too little (still) to discuss it properly. We don't have response from Marotta or Zhang, we don't have a second interview with Conte (probably pre Getafe). Like some said, a few days and this case might be dead in a water already. Yet, media are doing anything they can, as is the case for decades, to damage us in the most way. Yes, we sometimes give them reasons too, but both things can be true at the same time. We can do things we shouldn't do, and media could overblow 99% of the stories with us to damage our team and I think at which I'm more angry.

Actually most of us expect that the management won't fire him as it holds too much financial burden and its way too close to next season;any sane person knows that

. If he walks thoughts, as he stated a few weeks ago that he has to evaluate in the end of the season, thats another story. I dont think its blown out of propotion, the only part that is blown out of propotion is finding replacement for him. Everything else is literally what he said, managers usually are more subtle when complaining about the owner or management, this guy flat out said that he feels theres no protection from the management whatsoever and said that there is no involvement from the owner (he can't even find him, but God knows maybe its covid related reason).