Alberto Fontana

[Marco The Butcher]

Jimmy, you are right, i didnt see him except once but i didnt even like it and he didnt look fine. IMO he doesnt even look like a proper goalkeeper..!
I believe you 2 didnt see him in other matches, so why cant we have a better keeper. I dont care if he is 3rd, since he will rarely play, but i just expressed my decision in a moment of anger because i felt some of you guys here making him look like a hero.
Let him stay as a 3rd keeper, but surely i would never want him to be our no.1 or no.2

About Fontana, i did mention he was good in most of the matches he played. But keepers are supposed to compete with each other. What i can see is that both fontana and cordaz are comepting for a 2nd, while no one is competing with Toldo for a 1st place...Thats why i would have liked if we got Carini or Bellardi to compete with toldo in a way, and at the same time fontana stays as a 3rd.

 

[Jimmy]

I don´t see Belardi being in any way better than Fontana. And it´s not like Chimenti competes with Buffon either. Nor is Zotti doing with Pelizzoli.

 

[Marco The Butcher]

I don´t see Belardi being in any way better than Fontana. And it´s not like Chimenti competes with Buffon either. Nor is Zotti doing with Pelizzoli.

Belardi is a good keeper and he has an advantage with the age.
About keeper u mentioned not competing with the 1st ones, ur right but its wrong. You need to let them compete with each other, and thats why IMO Buffon wasnt that good this year like last year and the one before.

When Carini was there, Buffon used to be much better.. Pelizolli is the only keeper who might stand out of the comparison cuz he is just a young keeper and this was his first "full" season with Roma, but im sure if no one is there to compete with him, then he will just do more mistakes.

 

[Miki]

One word for Ziyad: Cordaz.

Just a question, was Frey brought through the youth system or did we sign him and use him as a starter right away???


Handyo

Frey was purchased from Cannes and was the third choice keeper in the season 98/99 after Pagliuca and Frezzolini. His first appearance for the senior team came against an away game at Sampdoria. We were 4-0 down at that time when Frey came on. His first full start was against Fiorentina where he kept a clean sheet. The season after that, he was loaned to Verona where he became the goalkeeper of the year.

Anyway, i am happy that Fontana has extended his contract. He is an excellent deputy, and hasn't failed to impress everytime he is called on.

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Pravesh]

I don´t see Belardi being in any way better than Fontana. And it´s not like Chimenti competes with Buffon either. Nor is Zotti doing with Pelizzoli.

Belardi is a good keeper and he has an advantage with the age.

how many times have u watched belardi's game ??

 

[Handoyo]

I am very sorry to be rude in this post but I truly find it ridiculous that there is supposed to be a competition for the keeper spot. As we have discussed, there is a very very very very small number of clubs in this world who have competition in department. Let's take a look at the top 4 teams of the top 3 league, shall we???


Serie A
Milan - Dida is an automatic choice. Abbiati doesn't give any competition whatsoever. Abbiati = Copa Italia games or games where Dida is injured, rested or suspended.
Roma - Pelizzoli (Spelling???) is the automatic choice. Zotti is not his competitor.
Juve - Buffon is the automatic choice. Chimenti is not his competitor.
Inter - Well...

EPL
Arsenal - Lehmann is the automatic choice. Arsenal get a new unproven and unheard Spanish keeper so it has to be for Lehmann's back-up. But, Lehmann has been inconsistent so the possibility of him being benched is not dead. Toldo has been inconsistent only in the 3rd season.
Chelsea - The only club with competition for the GK position. Well, what can I say??? A crazy club. Cech is Cudicini's competitor.
Man Utd - Howard is the automatic choice. I'm positively sure that when Carroll get some minutes in the season, it was for the purpose of resting Howard up.
Liverpool - Dudek may have some competition from Kirkland, but where does Kirkland came from??? The youth system. Cordaz can be our Kirkland.

La Liga
Valencia - Canizares is the automatic choice.
Barcelona - Valdes is the automatic choice. Rustu does not give him any competition. It's not because Rustu is a bad keeper but because for some reason, Rustu is just not being played by Rijkaard. And, where does Valdes came from??? The youth system.
Deportivo - Molina is the automatic choice.
Real Madrid - Casillas is the automatic choice. No competition whatsoever.


The point is, we are not Nostradamus who can predict and see the future. I'm not sure if Cordaz/Moreau will be a good keeper but you can't say that they'll flop. This is a quote I took from somewhere (Not sure of the source): "Assumption is the mother of all f*cked-ups".


Handyo

 

[Pravesh]

that's exactly what i tried to say as well....

there's hardly any competition for goalkeeper spot...

 

[Marco The Butcher]

who told u abbiati isnt giving any competition at all.. No wonder Dida improved tremendoulsly..

Howard for Man Utd even though he knows he is 1st choice but he also know that if he kept his mistakes he will sit and rest.

At arsenal u have lehmann, but stuart taylor is always ready and he is young and full of potential. (if u watched him before) u wil know.

Chlesea is the same, 3 keepers competing. Even if Cudicini is 1st place but there are good ones waiting.

About madrid, no wonder they are 4th and casillas mistakes were too much and same goes for poor molina since deportivo is just one crappy team.

there is competition in Barca, and this is a good thing. Exclude both Valdes and Pelizolli because they r both young and wanna prove themselves..

What im trying to tell you is that you may have an automatic choice keeper, but the keeper must also know that there is someone good who might replace him in any second. Something toldo is not aware about.

See all the top 2 or 3 teams in each league has good second keeper, and good in my eyes is much much better than fontana.
Milan
Barca
Chelsea
Man Utd

I guess only Juve and Valencia are the 2 clubs to stand out cuz simply they have the 2 best keepers in the world.

I hope you got my point...
and btw, dont even try to compare Cordaz to Kirkland really.. the latter is an england international and if it wasnt for his injuries he would have been england's no. 2

And dont worry, ur not rude..


Pravesh, i believe ive seen Bellardi in the league or in the tim cup but in the tim cup most probably and apart from that i read good stuff about him.. something u will rarely find about Cordaz..
Peace out.

 

[Jimmy]

If Fontana can´t give Toldo competition, then who can? Fontana get more or less clean sheets each time he plays and make extraordinary saves. I see him as the second best second keeper in the entire Serie A, behind Abbiati.

I just don´t understand why we have to ask for more, when we have a splendid reserve keeper that would be the first keeper of any other team (beside the top teams). Proof of this is that Fontana had received offers this summer by many clubs.

Questioning Fontana seems a bit strange.

 

[Handoyo]

who told u abbiati isnt giving any competition at all.. No wonder Dida improved tremendoulsly..

The stats. Dida has played almost all of Milan's match.

Howard for Man Utd even though he knows he is 1st choice but he also know that if he kept his mistakes he will sit and rest.

If Toldo needs to rest, Fontana will be the one who plays.

At arsenal u have lehmann, but stuart taylor is always ready and he is young and full of potential. (if u watched him before) u wil know.

That's right. But same can be said about Cordaz!!! We have only seen 45 minutes of Cordaz so we cannot judge if Cordaz is worse that Stuart Taylor!!!

Chlesea is the same, 3 keepers competing. Even if Cudicini is 1st place but there are good ones waiting.

I've admitted this as well. But well...Chelsea is crazy.

About madrid, no wonder they are 4th and casillas mistakes were too much and same goes for poor molina since deportivo is just one crappy team.

Are you kidding??? Casillas has been very good. It's the defence!!!

there is competition in Barca, and this is a good thing. Exclude both Valdes and Pelizolli because they r both young and wanna prove themselves..

Where is the competition in Barca??? Valdes played all the time. I think Rijkaard hates Turk, that's why Rustu is hardly used.

and btw, dont even try to compare Cordaz to Kirkland really.. the latter is an england international and if it wasnt for his injuries he would have been england's no. 2

Pravesh, i believe ive seen Bellardi in the league or in the tim cup but in the tim cup most probably and apart from that i read good stuff about him.. something u will rarely find about Cordaz..
Peace out.

As I have said, none of us are Nostradamus and none of us has seen a full match of Cordaz. You are just assuming that Cordaz won't be as good as the Kirklands and Taylors in this world. For me, I want to watch him first before making my judgment. But how am I gonna watch him if Belardi and Fontana is Toldo's sub???


Handyo

 

[Miki]

and btw, dont even try to compare Cordaz to Kirkland really.. the latter is an england international and if it wasnt for his injuries he would have been england's no. 2

And dont worry, ur not rude..


Pravesh, i believe ive seen Bellardi in the league or in the tim cup but in the tim cup most probably and apart from that i read good stuff about him.. something u will rarely find about Cordaz..
Peace out.

Let me get this right, are you suggesting that Cordaz is not good enough to be a backup for Toldo, or even Fontana for that matter? And all this without actually seeing much of him in action?

Ciao,
Tim

 

[Pravesh]

How can one just say that Cordaz isn't even a player to be 3rd goalkeeper ??

Not sure, if he will remain in Inter or be loaned, but c'mmon withut giving any chance we can't just say that inter can't have third goalkeeper like him ??

Toldo
Fontana
Cordaz/Moreau

Would be more than great .....
Fontana has done very well in last seasons and he has been rightly rewarded with one year of extension. Hats off to inter management in this case. They rarely do right things, and this is one of those.

 

[MoH]

I’m going to be honest here, I wanted Fontana to leave and then we would have both Cordaz & Moreau compete At least it means Toldone will have his best friend around Which is always something to treasure in football :thumbsup: Still a bit disappointed :cry2:

 

[Stefan]

I think keeping fontanna for 1 more year ain't bad. Let moreau and cordaz take over after this year.

 

[Marco The Butcher]

Han, i know Dida played all the matches.
I meant competition as in he knows clearly Abbiati is a good goalie and can replace him if he did mistakes.

Now at inter, toldo did many mistakes in the league. They didnt rest him to let Fontana play cuz everyone knows fontana is not to the standard.
They only let fontana take on the cup matches like all the clubs do with their 2nd keepers. and they made fontana play against lazio cuz toldo was not fit as far as i know..

This is what i mean, a 2nd proper keeper who can make the 1st one worried of facing an axe when mistakes happen..

I hope you get me this time..
I dont want 2 world class keepers in my team. i want at least someone good enough not to make me worry. Fontana is not the type. Even if he was good and i have to admit he was, in all the matches he played. But i wouldnt feel secure yet with him playing against big games in Serie A or Europe in case of an injury to Toldo or if he is mis fit..

And by the way, how many games have you watched for Madrid this season. Cuz Casillas had one of the worst seasons, just like Toldo.
And no i dont mean the defence mistakes.. he had many many mistakes himself..

 

[Jimmy]

Inter has never been a team that has rotated keepers or benched keepers when they are performing bad. For the last 15 years or so, only Frey was benched in favour of Ballotta, and that was due to Frey sucking completely at the end of the season.
Pagliuca made his trade-mark mistakes, but he ALWAYS played. And then we had a back-up with the name of Mazzantini who later became the first keeper of Perugia. Same thing with Fontana.

We give 100% confidence to our first keeper, and mistakes don´t mean that they are benched. And I don´t know why you don´t trust Fontana. He´s the best second keeper I have ever seen with Inter. Perfect stats and perfect performances. What more can one ask?

When Abbiati has been given a chance he has screwed up completely at times. I´ve still yet to see that with Fontana. At Inter keepers risk being sold if they have a bad season. They don´t risk being benched. Not when your name is Toldo and has proved to be a world-class keeper for the last 10 years.

It´s not about competition. It´s about having one first keeper and then a back-up that is great each time he gets to play. That is Fontana. You admit himself he´s been great whenever he is played. So where is the problem? Where is Fontana worse than Belardi?

After experiencing the disaster called Fabrizio Ferron when he was our back-up, I am thrilled to see a keeper like Fontana that gets clean sheets most of the times he plays and rarely make a mistake.

 

[Baggio]

I really think we did wrong to extend Fontnas contract.
He is very old and I dont think he is versatile as he used to be.

We should have give opportunity to our young goalkeepers and I am sure they can do as good job as Fontana can. By giving opportunity to play to some of our young goalkeeepers(Cordaz) maybe we would discover new Casillas.

 

[Stefan]

I really think we did wrong to extend Fontnas contract.
He is very old and I dont think he is versatile as he used to be.

We should have give opportunity to our young goalkeepers and I am sure they can do as good job as Fontana can. By giving opportunity to play to some of our young goalkeeepers(Cordaz) maybe we would discover new Casillas.

Its a 1 year extension. I am sure fontanna is still good enough for 1 year.

 

[Granit]

Fontana slams boss Mancini
Wednesday 11 May, 2005

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Inter goalkeeper Alberto Fontana has launched a quite extraordinary verbal attack on Coach Roberto Mancini.

The reserve shot-stopper is set to leave the club in the summer but not before he made his feelings towards the tactician perfectly clear.

"If I hadn’t had been stopped by my teammates, I would have come to blows with him. I just can’t take it anymore," he told the QS newspaper.

"I already told him a few months ago, when he was attacking us goalkeepers about the goals we were letting in, that his Lazio side also conceded a sack full of goals.

"Therefore, maybe there was another problem that was linked with his style of play. That’s when our relationship ended, even if we never really had a relationship."

Fontana was actually promoted to the first team for a period earlier this season after Francesco Toldo’s difficulties.

But he was relegated back to the bench and is unlikely to feature again after today’s astonishing outburst.

"I was told that I had become ‘uncomfortable’ because I could create problems with my character," added the former Atalanta No 1.

"But Mancini didn’t tell me this. He hasn’t got the balls to do so even if he is paid to do such things.

"He is a spoilt child who is afraid of his own shadow and always needs help from others, notably (his assistant Fernando) Orsi.

"Mancini was a phenomenon as a player but he is worth nothing as a man.

"After all, there must have been a motive if during his playing days everybody loved Roberto Baggio whereas Mancini was hated."

The Italian added that he believed former Nerazzurri boss Hector Cuper was a much better man manager.

"Cuper on the other hand was a great, a real man," noted the player nicknamed ‘Jimmy’.

"If he asked me to be the fifth choice ‘keeper then I would. If Majorca survive relegation in La Liga then I could go and join him there."

Inter are expected to take disciplinary action against the player for giving an "unauthorised" interview.

From Channel4.com

 

[J zanetti]

If he actually has said those words, then someone should change the title of this thread to: Fontona kicked out of Inter for serious breach of contrcat