2012/2013 Managers Rumors Thread

[I4E]

Here we go Vas...

According to football lineups (http://www.football-lineups.com/coach/906/), Mazzari played these formations:

With Reggina: 48 matches with 3-4-2-1, 31 with 3-5-1-1
With Sampdoria: 57 with 3-5-2, 18 with 3-4-2-1
With Napoli: 131 with 3-4-2-1, 31 with 3-4-1-2

In all the matches in the database, Mazzari has used a back 4 only 22 times. It is safe to say Mazzari will utilize a back 3, a midfield 4, and an attack of 3 with a lone central striker.

I'd wager a squad that looks like: Hando; Frog, Samuel, Juan; Zanetti, Cambiasso, Kovacic, Nagatomo; Palacio, Guarin, Milito (NOTE: will change with summer transactions)

EDIT: Guidolin looks to be more diverse than I had previously believed, utilizing a back 4 with specific clubs. I have probably been overly biased on his coaching abilities, putting too much emphasis on Udinese success on Di Natale's goals. Here is his stats: http://www.football-lineups.com/coach/696/
I'd go through and look at the numbers, but sleep is calling.

Good work Bill

I felt quite confident that Mazzarri barely used a back 4. Now you've confirmed it for us.

 

[Inter7]

I hate to say this i fucking hate rubentes but conte is a manager implemented his plan right away. we need a manager with balls.

 

[Bluenine]

btw, no matter how much i hate that guy, i, WE, must show respect for the ball he has shown. Leaving team like Napoli to coach sinking ship like Inter. :notbad:

Yeah, very brave. With a rumoured 40% increment in salary.

 

[Choppin Onions]

If Mazzarri is indeed appointed as the new boss, the loyalty to the old guard vanishes. I honestly don't see where Cuchu and Zanetti fit in a 3-5-2/3-4-3 formation. The former is no longer a DM and he isn't quick enough or a brilliant, aging creative player ala Pirlo to be a starter. Due to his massive wages, he probably should be sold tbh. Capitano will also be in tough after he comes back from injury. He's not a midfielder whatsoever, either at RWB or CM/DM. Next season could be the one where JZ will have to accept a bench role for the good of the club.

Be interesting to see how it all pans out.

 

[rockball]

Personally I've talked myself into Guidolin recently, and would prefer him over Mazzarri. What he's been able to do these past few years after the annual raping and pillaging of his squad is insane. Not sure who else would even be a viable candidate at this point. Blanc maybe, though if PSG are really interested, so much for that.

That is the problem about Guidolon. He has worked at small clubs with smaller pressures and mentality. He would be happy and take it lying down when Moratti and co fuck up the transfers. In fact, he would be the perfect scapegoat. I have confidence in his tactical abilities, but he isn't the personality to lead Inter.

Mazzari is a bit pazza which suits Inter. He has spent fair time competing for top trophies (QF in CL, 2nd in serie A, winning Coppa). He is coming at back of a good season. He has been strong in the media, and always shouting against Juve or other refereeing decisions. Sure, he has faults like blaming his players etc. But then he isn't one to take things lying down and won't let our management easily sell the top players. I think he has the personality for a job like ours.

To add to it, let's not live under the delusion of a youth project. And we only need to integrate about 2-3 youth players like Benassi, Duncan, Icardi. Juan has shown that he can perform if the coach can set up the team right. Kovacic is already much better than everyone else here and can't be considered youth. Mazzari isn't as disastrous when it comes to young players like all claim here. He can integrate 2-3 over the season like we said, while the rest of the team (with few transfers) is good enough and experienced enough to get a CL spot.

 

[junkie]

I hope he could at least be our next mancini, to bring the club to the high level and then we can think of our next mou who will bring us that world class for CL and I think you all remember that last time we need 4-5 years to happen...

btw jube and napoli are 1. and 2. this year and they play with 3 man defence
if he can set them to play it near as they do then play like that I think neather jube or napoli fans are pissed of that 3 man defence
and eaven in CL they did well, they lost to BM and still get less goals than farca...

 

[Pajo]

Good work Bill

I felt quite confident that Mazzarri barely used a back 4. Now you've confirmed it for us.

Hey, i missed that post. Well done for Bill, gonna tahnk him now. Thank to you too for quoting it

 

[CafeCordoba]

And it's not like Mazzarri will only use older players. I'm sure the management with the coach, agrees to a certain plan for this PROJECT (heh) which is to involve more youth players to the first team. Basically it means Mazzarri agrees to use youth players.

 

[Akif]

Mazzarri may have failed to integrate more young players (ex. Insigne) in his starting line-up in the recent years, but don't forget he's also the one who is responsible of moulding young talents such as Hamsik or Cavani to be great players like they are today.

 

[Iron_Inter]

I dont get it, he leaves Napoli second best team in Italy who will play in CL next year, to come coaching Inter. Beside those 3.5 mil to come here with all that pressure, it must be something more than money.Is he Interista, was his dream coaching Inter, is he a good friend with MM...Can someone enlighten me about the reasons he wants Inter bench.
However we finally have a real coach with real coach personality, all this time with Strama we lacked a real leader. I dont care what formation we are playing he cant be worse than Gasp, Rafa, Strama.

 

[Maslany]

I dont get it, he leaves Napoli second best team in Italy who will play in CL next year, to come coaching Inter. Beside those 3.5 mil to come here with all that pressure, it must be something more than money.Is he Interista, was his dream coaching Inter, is he a good friend with MM...Can someone enlighten me about the reasons he wants Inter bench.
However we finally have a real coach with real coach personality, all this time with Strama we lacked a real leader. I dont care what formation we are playing he cant be worse than Gasp, Rafa, Strama.

"At this point I think it is only right to either change scenery or have some time off. If offers come in then I will evaluate them. If I have the right adrenaline and motivation then I'll do it, otherwise I'll stay at home."

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/soccer/news/20130519/walter-mazzari-napoli-resigns.ap/

Maybe that's the reason, he will be very motivated to work here and reorganize us.

 

[Iron_Inter]

@ Nade.

In that quote he isnt being too clear about the reasons. If you read that and see what is his situation that doesnt make any sense. Chance of success gets man motivated. And its not like he is SAF or Mourinho and won everything, he is in his best years to coach, and this move he is not progressing in his work. tbh
If you have chance to success you will be motivated, going from "better" workplace to worse you will get demotivated. And its not like he has won everything with Napoli and now he would like to change environment, unless like i said his wish for a long time, or some sort of dream is to be coach of Inter and to work for president MM. And money of course.

If you are not motivated from what you do, he would like to retire at least for a bit, to see his family and stuff like that, in no way you would like more pressure and worse situation that you are in. And he would be in CL and have good build team for next years.


I can not but think that he had some kind of problems with the president of Napoli or the stuff, and somehow i think this "deal" was considered between him and MM long time ago.

 

[Bluenine]

I dont care what formation we are playing he cant be worse than Gasp, Rafa, Strama.

I normally don't care what formation a coach plays as long as he can make it work. But Inter are in a difficult financial position. So I do care if the preferred formation of the new coach is very different, coz that will require larger investments to make it work.

It all depends what support we give Mazzari. For eg, if we give him at least 4 new quality players, he could start making this team play his footballing personality. Here is my post on what changes he would need: http://forzainterforums.com/showthread.php?11650-Big-Questions-for-Next-Season/page2

However, if we ignore his suggestions or buy random players that Branca likes (like we did with Strama, Gasperini & Benitez), we could end up with similar chaos. Like for example (this is quite plausable) if we announce Mazzari as the new coach, and our first purchase is Gomez!

My only point against Mazzari has been that his footballing requirements are very different from Strama, so we will need bigger investments to make our squad fit for Mazzari. That is the only reason I prefer more flexible coaches like Allegri or Guidolin. But if we get Mazzari, give him a sufficient budget and time, there is no reason why he shouldn't be as successful as a Guidolin would have been.

 

[Batman]

That means he is UP for the challenge here and is ready to fix us. Plus Moratti must have told him he'll give him enough money for the transfer market. Not to mention we actually have a squad with the same quality as Napoli, if not better (imo). And despte missing out on europe, he still thinks Inter is an upgrade step for his career.

 

[interista4]

Mazzarri worries me greatly, that he would likely use the likes of Kuzmanovic or Stankovic over Obi or Benassi who can arguably offer more, including the promise of growth and development.

I see.. then, pretty much like Strama. I agree I'd rather have an actual coach with balls who would dare to play the youngsters, but I guess it's too much to ask. So as of now, I'll give it to Mazzarri as he can actually set up the team and get the best out of our players, a little improvement, better than nothing.

P.S, Can you guys explain why in the hack you would not mind Strama to stay?

 

[Iron_Inter]

My only point against Mazzari has been that his footballing requirements are very different from Strama, so we will need bigger investments to make our squad fit for Mazzari. That is the only reason I prefer more flexible coaches like Allegri or Guidolin. But if we get Mazzari, give him a sufficient budget and time, there is no reason why he shouldn't be as successful as a Guidolin would have been.

You mean the one good think about Mazzari is that his footballing requirements are very different from Strama. If it was Mazzari i dont hink he would even considered bringing Sceloto or Kuz and letting go of Cou. Also i read there is chance for Bigon to replace Branca and that is positive sign regarding transfers.

 

[Inter4Lyfe]

What about Mancini ? Proven performer. I wouldn't mind seeing him again. Alot of people would be against this, but he has the goods.

 

[Universe]

he's also the one who is responsible of moulding young talents such as Hamsik or Cavani to be great players like they are today.

 

[ciamac]

i would like to know what formation did Mazzari use against chelsea last year? anyone remember? did he use 3 man defense in their European important games too?

 

[I4E]

Mazzarri may have failed to integrate more young players (ex. Insigne) in his starting line-up in the recent years, but don't forget he's also the one who is responsible of moulding young talents such as Hamsik or Cavani to be great players like they are today.

he's right about them.

He also converted the unknown, 1 dimensional, wide playing Cavani from Palermo into a world class CF.