2009/2010 Midfielders rumours topic

[Suneet]

I love it when people say that Mourinho will change the midfield into some peoples fantasies. Even though Mourinho is probably the best coach in the world, he is far far far away from playing a trequarterista or a attacking midfield. :howler: My views are different, I dont want the CL as bad as the Scudetto. We will get the CL some day that I'm sure. As long as we are winning the League, I personally am happy. In the CL we can only get better. Its the final scoreline that matters, I'm sure even Jose thinks like that.

 

[Azzkikr]

Dont know about that, Mancini is actually getting worse in the cl every year.

First season - quarters
Second Season - quarters
Third season - first knockout round on away goal only.
4th season - demolished 3-0 total in first knockoutround.

Impressive.

 

[Joss]

It doesnt matter how much freedom cambiasso gets to go forward when he clearly doesnt have the ability to do it effectively at the big stage.

He simply isnt that type of player, hes primary forces lies in the defensive aspects of the game regardless of what anyone says. He isnt technical enough or quick enough on the ball to be decisive in any way, not to mention hes passing isnt exactly worldclass and he is a slow passer as well, he needs alot of time to think before passing because he lacks vision and technique.

I know alot of people here thinks cambiasso is somekinda super player that can play anywhere in the midfield to an A+, but that simply isnt true. He simply chokes in fast play, both against him and when he is supposed to play fast.

Cambiasso is a decent player who can cover many areas of the game, but he simply doesnt excell at anything, and the fact that he is so incredibly slow with the ball doesnt help him either. He is perfect for most serie a games, with low pressure and low tempo and his performances here reflects that, but everytime a team picks up the pace, like most teams in the cl, he looks completely besides himself and doesnt work half as well as in lower tempo serie a games. This would ok, if not for the fact that its exactly the same scenario with basicly all our other midfielders apart from perhaps jimenez, rest are just too old and slow.

I agree that cambiasso is not your typical DM, but to say cambiasso cant
play at a certain pace is bullshit.

First, Its a teams as a collective who sets the pace of a game. By keeping possession a team is able to control the tempo of a game
regardless of what league you play in or how modern you play.

Why dont you or anyone else explain to me how Cambiasso was able to perform well in the world cup against quality teams at the highest stage
of futbal but yet he cant play in europe?

As a Dm, Cambiasso is niether strong nor fast but he makes up for it with his postioning and his ability to read the game, which is more important then how fast one can play. One can look at sissoko for an example, for he is strong and fast but yet ive seen him outclassed countless of times in Seria A because hes such a dumb player who forgets hes playing the ball and not the man; as well hes so tactically inept that he often seems lost.

Im not saying Cambiasso is the best or even close but he is still efficent for a DM. Play him in any other position and he wont be as effeceint because hes not a technical player who can create space for himself but as a DM he plays at a high level

 

[Luka]

I love it when people say that Mourinho will change the midfield into some peoples fantasies. Even though Mourinho is probably the best coach in the world, he is far far far away from playing a trequarterista or a attacking midfield. :howler:

His favourite system 4-3-3 consist of 2 offensive wingers.

He is not a Rijkard or Wenger type of dude, that's for sure, but the way Mancini evolved to this day, it couldn't be worse in offensive aspect of the game.

Funny how Mancio started his journey with Inter, we played the most offensive football in Italy, and look at us now.

Boooooring...

 

[tonyloo]

Look at the salaries some of the players have that are leaving this summer.

Figo earns €3.5m/year
Solari earns €3m/year yuck
Maniche earns €3m/year ("!#¤)
Adriano earns €5m/year (Maybe)
Crespo earns €3.5/year (Maybe)

Give Maicon and Maxwell a raise when they leave, and a good contract for Balotelli.

 

[Azzkikr]

I agree that cambiasso is not your typical DM, but to say cambiasso cant
play at a certain pace is bullshit.

First, Its a teams as a collective who sets the pace of a game. By keeping possession a team is able to control the tempo of a game
regardless of what league you play in or how modern you play.

Why dont you or anyone else explain to me how Cambiasso was able to perform well in the world cup against quality teams at the highest stage
of futbal but yet he cant play in europe?

As a Dm, Cambiasso is niether strong nor fast but he makes up for it with his postioning and his ability to read the game, which is more important then how fast one can play. One can look at sissoko for an example, for he is strong and fast but yet ive seen him outclassed countless of times in Seria A because hes such a dumb player who forgets hes playing the ball and not the man; as well hes so tactically inept that he often seems lost.

Im not saying Cambiasso is the best or even close but he is still efficent for a DM. Play him in any other position and he wont be as effeceint because hes not a technical player who can create space for himself but as a DM he plays at a high level

Far from bullshit, he always chokes when he gets pressured immediatly as he conquers the ball, because he is simply to slow, too poor a passer and lacks the vision to effectively distribute the ball after claiming it. He completely lacks composure when under pressure and becomes desperate and then makes a poor pass, we have seen so many times. He doesnt have this problem at the NT because there are technical players who can hold onto the ball and distribute it properly. At inter there arent, only more midfielders who basicly have the same problems as cambiasso, and that isnt good.

But if you read my post you would see that its not cambiasso's defensive aspects that im concerned about, but rather when going the other way.

Its the claim by some people that he can be a driving force when going forward that im arguing, because he clearly cant. He lacks pretty much everything to do so.

Its not a rant about getting rid of cambiasso, its more a rant about playing cambi, zanetti and a destroyer simply is way too excessive and it limits the offensive play too much. You cant just buy a quality AM and expect everything to be fine, when you have 3 players who are mainly defensive players behind. It wont change anything, it will still be long ball from the dm's when the get desperate under pressure, you need another link in midfield and cambiasso cannot be that link regardless of what people think, he doesnt have the skill to do so.

 

[Enzo]

lmao

cambiasso dominated valencia when he played them, the game changed when he got injured

 

[Pravesh]

I don't agree with those guys who say that Cambiasso is not a DM. In my opinion, he's a DM, with a better vision in offensive plays. Have you seen the guy intercept and regain possession on many occassions. We can't expect one player to be perfect in everything.

As Hamoud said - "Jack .. of all trade , ... of ntg bla bla"
Yeah, he might not be the world's best best best DM but he does to cover that by doing well in offense. He's a starter in the Argentine starting line up everytime alongside Mascherano (with Mascherano doing more DM work but he still does his job there) benching Lucho !!

He's a DM but different from Diarra/Makelele, with some offensive bonuses.

And I really don't want to see a pure DM (aka Diarra) alongside him, as I would instead prefer another two way defensive midfielder like his country mate - Lucho.

May be I could be wrong but I really don't want us to sign Diarra to play alongside Cambiasso but to be a squad player, which I doubt Diarra would like. Then again, I guess we got players like Pele for that ?? It's a different call, if Mancini doesn't believe in Pele.

We lack the creativity in the midfield and Diarra -- Cambiasso would limit us there. If it was upto me {lol}, I would have wanted us to sign someone like Lucho {won't come cheap at all}.

Aquilani is the player I would love us to sign at any cost, if possible.

Well, what I mean to say is that, I want us to play something like this:

-- Aqu/Luc/Vie -- Cambi ---- Stan/J.Zan --
--------------- playmaker ----------------


Rather than:

--- J.Zan/Aqui/Cambi --- Diarra ---- Cambi/Stan/J.Zan --
---------------------- Stan/Aqui -----------------------

I don't think we would play 4-4-2 next season, coz we would be needing 2 freaking wingers yet again.

Oh btw, forgot to mention !! All those are if Mancini surprisingly still continues with us.

If it's Mourinho, I have no idea how we are gonna play. But I do think that Cambiasso will play as a DM and Stankovic (if on form and stays with us) will play in the role similar to that of Lampard.

It would still be great to sign Aquilani kinda player to play under him. {aka Lampard} lol.

 

[rockball]

Look at the salaries some of the players have that are leaving this summer.

Figo earns €3.5m/year
Solari earns €3m/year yuck
Maniche earns €3m/year ("!#¤)
Adriano earns €5m/year (Maybe)
Crespo earns €3.5/year (Maybe)

Give Maicon and Maxwell a raise when they leave, and a good contract for Balotelli.

Maybe Vieira too €5m/year

And I totally agree with Pravesh. A midfield of CM-Cambiasso-JZ behind a good AM will be perfect for us.

 

[8ballmjg]

We should get Quaresma or Diego, but my dream would be getting Ronaldhino.

Having Ronaldhino as a target palyer as totti is for roma

 

[Luka]

Having Ronaldhino as a target palyer as totti is for roma

Are you sure you know what you're saying?

Dinho as a target man ?

ps. Totti was never in his life a target man.

 

[The_Emperor]

I think he means playmaker.

 

[Ziyad]

I think Diarra is a must now (or any DM of his quality).Maybe we dont pair him up with Cambiasso and Viera but he will be a quality add for times like yesterday..

We need to rotate our DM's more to avoid a situation like the one against Juve and having DIarra will help such a rotation without losing on the quality.

We also need two AM's.If Jimenez stays,and to me he has shown enough quality to do so,then we must get one super duper deal that will be a dominant force.

 

[Interista nr.1]

This is from channel4;

Inter are being linked with Porto forward Ricardo Quaresma, but the Nerazzurri will need to table a record-breaking bid to persuade the Dragons to part with him.

Despite continuing their dominance of Serie A, the Beneamata have shown some vulnerability this term and have failed in their bid to conquer Europe.

The summer is likely to bring reinforcements and the departure of Luis Figo may open the door for the man touted as the former Barcelona star’s heir.

While Porto are determined to keep hold of Quaresma, club President Jorge Nuno Pinto da Costa has admitted that he couldn’t reject a mega bid.

“If an offer of £32.5m arrived I think it would be inevitable that we would sell him at the end of the season,” he stated.

Adept at playing on the left wing or in attack, Quaresma has scored 21 goals in 103 appearances for Porto since arriving from Barcelona in 2004.

The 24-year-old is believed to be eyeing a move to either Italy or Spain, but Premier League giants Arsenal are also said to be in the chase.

HAHA they must be jocking, £32.5!!!! OMG

 

[Interista nr.1]

Look at the salaries some of the players have that are leaving this summer.

Figo earns €3.5m/year
Solari earns €3m/year yuck
Maniche earns €3m/year ("!#¤)
Adriano earns €5m/year (Maybe)
Crespo earns €3.5/year (Maybe)

Give Maicon and Maxwell a raise when they leave, and a good contract for Balotelli.

Anybody have this info about Inter players earnings?? I remember it was on channel4 or in gazzetta once..

 

[Ehsan]

Anybody have this info about Inter players earnings?? I remember it was on channel4 or in gazzetta once..

Vieira 5
Adriano 5
Ibra 5
Samuel 4
Chivu 3.5
Stankovic 3.5
Figo 3.5
Crespo 3.5
Solari 3.5
Cordoba 3
Zanetti 3
Cambiasso 3
Materazzi 3
Suazo 3
J. Cesar 2.5
Cruz 2.5
Maicon 2
Maxwell 2
Dacourt 1.5
Burdisso 1.5
Cesar 1.5
Toldo 1
Jimenez 0.8
Rivas 0.5
Pele 0.3

 

[shahz_nerazzurri]

At 41mill Euros, Porto can keep Quaresma to themselves for the rest of their lives. Apart from Messi and C.Ronaldo, I dont think any player should be worth that much. Certainly not one who has already flunked at big stage once in his life.
Also I dont think Moratti will do this kind of spending anymore, we wont have an outrageous budget in the summer, thanks to limited earnings from the CL, and we have to strengthen in quite a few areas, so to spend 41mill Euros on a single player, looks highly unlikely.
If Porto can lower his price to around 25mills, that would be great.

 

[Jonnie_Venom89]

Eventualy the price will be lowered to 25-30 mil and we will offer them some player in exchange ---Solari,Burdisso,Cesar, even Maxwell would be great to offer for Quaresma

 

[Alex de Large]

I would not give Maxwell, he is the future LB for Brazil.

 

[M.Adnan]

Eventualy the price will be lowered to 25-30 mil and we will offer them some player in exchange ---Solari,Burdisso,Cesar, even Maxwell would be great to offer for Quaresma

Solari's contract ends this summer so we can't sell him, and I think Cesar's too. Burdisso is still a good back up for the team, and it's not easy to get a world class defender just to sit on the bench.