2023/2024 Goalkeepers Rumours Thread

Gal said:

Sommer has a couple of seasons more in him, so we are in no sort of hurry to find a replacement as it stands. GK can also be hard to predict as it’s not just talent but also mentality and ability to learn from mistakes as well as being able to read the game. Personally I like to see how Stankovic develops over the next couple of years… before making rushed decisions on the matter.

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He is 35, Handanovic started to decline at 37, so Sommer has 1 more season, we need to look for a young goalkeeper in summer.

sdvroot said:

He is 35, Handanovic started to decline at 37, so Sommer has 1 more season, we need to look for a young goalkeeper in summer.

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Buffon was fine at 38, just because Handanovic declined at 37 doesn’t equal the same will apply for Sommer, he might as well still be fine at 40 his a GK after all.

do we have buy-back for Di Gregorio? he could be interesting when Sommer leaves

sdvroot said:

He is 35, Handanovic started to decline at 37, so Sommer has 1 more season, we need to look for a young goalkeeper in summer.

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Is it some rule that the decline starts at 37?

junkie said:

do we have buy-back for Di Gregorio? he could be interesting when Sommer leaves

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No, he is Monza’s 100%. I think we may get a percentage resale though so it could work in our favor if that’s the route we want to go.

CafeCordoba said:

Is it some rule that the decline starts at 37?

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No, but we can't go into the season unprepared. As Scudetto contender every match is a must-win.

New GK won't click immediately with our backline buildup.

The problem with backup GK is that it's almost an impossible position to get "right". Either the person filling the role is squarely back-up caliber, which means they aren't good (or else they would've found somewhere to start), or they're overqualified to be a backup GK and they won't be satisfied with potentially never playing during the season aside from the rare Coppa game. In a sense, late stage Handanovic is someone who actually does fit the role because you can talk yourself into believing that a former GK great might no longer be consistently good, but on a here-and-there basis maybe you can still get quality from them. (Of course, there's also players who need to play consistently to find form as opposed to being here-and-there players, so this logic is anything but infallible.) But someone like Di Gregorio? He's been starting all season for a comfortably mid-table team that might be able to compete for a European spot. It doesn't make sense for him to take a step back to being a backup 'keeper, even if it's for only one season.

Kramerica Industries said:

The problem with backup GK is that it's almost an impossible position to get "right". Either the person filling the role is squarely back-up caliber, which means they aren't good (or else they would've found somewhere to start), or they're overqualified to be a backup GK and they won't be satisfied with potentially never playing during the season aside from the rare Coppa game. In a sense, late stage Handanovic is someone who actually does fit the role because you can talk yourself into believing that a former GK great might no longer be consistently good, but on a here-and-there basis maybe you can still get quality from them. (Of course, there's also players who need to play consistently to find form as opposed to being here-and-there players, so this logic is anything but infallible.) But someone like Di Gregorio? He's been starting all season for a comfortably mid-table team that might be able to compete for a European spot. It doesn't make sense for him to take a step back to being a backup 'keeper, even if it's for only one season.

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One season we can do the same as we did with Onana-Handanovic pair, the next season Di Gregorio/Bento plays Cup and Champions League games, and Sommer plays Serie A games, after the next season Di Gregorio/Bento plays all the games and Sommer sits on the bench.

Lovely Toldo and Julio Cesar. One still good but he knew himself was old and had no problem sharing the minutes. Then he stepped aside for something big.

Real life aren't FIFA, and GK is too critical to nurture with mistakes. You can't simply slot one young with good stats.

Kramerica Industries said:

The problem with backup GK is that it's almost an impossible position to get "right". Either the person filling the role is squarely back-up caliber, which means they aren't good (or else they would've found somewhere to start), or they're overqualified to be a backup GK and they won't be satisfied with potentially never playing during the season aside from the rare Coppa game. In a sense, late stage Handanovic is someone who actually does fit the role because you can talk yourself into believing that a former GK great might no longer be consistently good, but on a here-and-there basis maybe you can still get quality from them. (Of course, there's also players who need to play consistently to find form as opposed to being here-and-there players, so this logic is anything but infallible.) But someone like Di Gregorio? He's been starting all season for a comfortably mid-table team that might be able to compete for a European spot. It doesn't make sense for him to take a step back to being a backup 'keeper, even if it's for only one season.

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I think the idea would be to sign a future starter while having him understudy Sommer and eventually move the latter to the no 2 spot (if Sommer would take a pay-cut to stay with the team as a no 2). I always prefer having a more senior keeper as the backup because young goalkeepers need a lot of reps to feel confident— that makes stepping into an impromptu difficult situation, which a backup keeper often does, very difficult. A more experienced keeper knows what they can and can’t do with more certainty and are usually more capable of managing the moment.

Kramerica Industries said:

The problem with backup GK is that it's almost an impossible position to get "right". Either the person filling the role is squarely back-up caliber, which means they aren't good (or else they would've found somewhere to start), or they're overqualified to be a backup GK and they won't be satisfied with potentially never playing during the season aside from the rare Coppa game. In a sense, late stage Handanovic is someone who actually does fit the role because you can talk yourself into believing that a former GK great might no longer be consistently good, but on a here-and-there basis maybe you can still get quality from them. (Of course, there's also players who need to play consistently to find form as opposed to being here-and-there players, so this logic is anything but infallible.) But someone like Di Gregorio? He's been starting all season for a comfortably mid-table team that might be able to compete for a European spot. It doesn't make sense for him to take a step back to being a backup 'keeper, even if it's for only one season.

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Probably one of the more sensical post

A GK of certain qualities would prefer to play rather than sitting out 95% of the season, this is something you choose if you know the quality isn’t there or your in the end of your career. Why we often seen lower quality second and especially third choice keepers and older nearly 40 year olds.

The wage is also typically the lowest in the squad. Our third keeper receiving 280k and second 1.5m in other words it’s not financial worth it as if you have some talent you typically receive close to or same as our second gk. To get a really good quality sub you often need to heavily compensate them, for 1-1.5m your nor realistically going to get much quality and often they won’t still be satisfied in that position for long.

It’s just not wisely paying hefty for a potential replacement when money can be spent more wisely elsewhere, you replace the GK when it’s time to do so when your financial restraint or you secure one and let the player on loan until needed.

Generally you prefer experience second gk not development projects, latter need playing time more than anything. Why because first will be more likely to accept the role and will also have experience to step in when needed and not be shaky because of lack of experience and maturity. This has typically also been our recipe except a few exceptions.

Maybe we can close on 12mln + 2 seasons free loan of Carboni.

We won't get him when Yann is like a rock between our goal posts. It has to be a loan or cheaper alternative.

Or maybe ManU has already decided their next move and DiGregorio is the natural replacement

IM21 said:

https://twitter.com/x/status/1763967075695870319

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So Handa went to watch Di Gregorio concede 4 goals.

Di Gregorio had some decent saves either.

CafeCordoba said:

So Handa went to watch Di Gregorio concede 4 goals.

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Lol

Im pretty sure he was there not just for Di Gregorio, but also Carboni and Colpani.

That 10% discounts the price by 2m€ if the price is 20m€. Not making much difference here.