Roberto Mancini

rockball · Feb 23, 2008

As stated often earlier, its not the absence of CL trophy, but our inept performances in it thats hurting me.

Handoyo · Feb 23, 2008

This season is pretty much ours, and after that, we're only 1 behind Milan's tally. So I'm really happy with that.

Even though Mancini has been very poor in Europe, let's compare his situation with the very top European managers.

Alex Ferguson - ONE CL trophy in 21 years with Man Utd (1st CL title in 12th year)
Arsene Wenger - ZERO CL trophy in around 10 years with Arsenal
Marcello Lippi - ONE CL trophy in 11 years of club careers (Since Napoli) (1st CL title in 3rd year)
Fabio Capello - ONE CL trophy in 16 years of club management (Since Milan) (1st CL title in 4th year)
Jose Mourinho - ONE CL trophy in 7 years of club management (Since Benfica) (1st CL title in 4th year)

As you can see, the European title is not contested by some kids, it is serious stuff where the best managers & teams compete for it. And sometimes, the best one does not win it.

I know that most of the argument presented by the anti-Mancini is how we even lack the presence to play football in that stage; but I am patient. If Mancini shows complete ineptitude and falters in Serie A too, I'd be worried. But he improved every season in Serie A and he's still growing as a manager, as a result I see no reason on why we should be pessimistic on him.

Azzkikr · Feb 23, 2008

Handoyo, no one expects us to win the CL, but we expect to be up there, actually being a contender and up there in the semi's~ instead of being the laughing stock of the competetion year after year.

Its the fact that we play absolutely horible year after year in the knockoutstages and constantly choke to teams who on paper arent as good as us.

Its obvious that there is something wrong with either mancini's approach to these games or with the team generaly (or most likely both).

We atleast want good performances, so we can go out with some honor atleast, not choking so much that you dont have a single shot on goal, 10 man or not, its simply pathetic and embarrasing to say the least.

4 years of being a complete joke/failure in europe is inexcusable in my book.

Aleksandar · Feb 23, 2008

Handoyo said:
This season is pretty much ours, and after that, we're only 1 behind Milan's tally. So I'm really happy with that. Even though Mancini has been very poor in Europe, let's compare his situation with the very top European managers.

Alex Ferguson - ONE CL trophy in 21 years with Man Utd (1st CL title in 12th year)
Arsene Wenger - ZERO CL trophy in around 10 years with Arsenal
Marcello Lippi - ONE CL trophy in 11 years of club careers (Since Napoli) (1st CL title in 3rd year)
Fabio Capello - ONE CL trophy in 16 years of club management (Since Milan) (1st CL title in 4th year)
Jose Mourinho - ONE CL trophy in 7 years of club management (Since Benfica) (1st CL title in 4th year)

As you can see, the European title is not contested by some kids, it is serious stuff where the best managers & teams compete for it. And sometimes, the best one does not win it.

I know that most of the argument presented by the anti-Mancini is how we even lack the presence to play football in that stage; but I am patient. If Mancini shows complete ineptitude and falters in Serie A too, I'd be worried. But he improved every season in Serie A and he's still growing as a manager, as a result I see no reason on why we should be pessimistic on him.

I said exactly the same in some previous post about the others great tacticians..........btw I can believe how long Inter kept Mancini,before coach couldn't last for one year.....

Inter waited for Scuddeto(I mean any kind of trophy)for soooo long,and we got it,and we just have to be patient and the champion league trophy will come....I think that it will be soon.......Inter are on the right track.......if somehow we are able to pass Liverpool I think we will be so self-confident and motivated that we can win CL

Frisko · Feb 23, 2008

Just to say that I find arguing about Mancini quite pathetic, he's done a miracle with us, we are an incredible force. At the end of the day if Gerrard didn't score, we would have lost 1-0, be very confident about the 2nd leg. So one goal changes your opinion on a coach that has won us more that we could have ever dreamed of? Sorry, that's a nono.

Azzkikr · Feb 23, 2008

Sure but he did score, we did get trashed for the entire game, we didnt get a single shot on goal, we didnt do anything, we choked like always away in europe. 10 man doesnt excuse such a horible performance.

There is no room for if's and but's in europe, mancini needs to wake up and realise that there isnt room for failure and be sharper tacticaly and realise that you cant approach a CL away game the same way a serie a game.

But considering he hasnt improved CL wise in his 4 years at all, it doesnt look plausible.

Master Inter · Feb 23, 2008

http://www.transfermarketweb.com/?action=read&idsel=11867

"Massimo Moratti is the only one that can rip the ex coach of Porto and Chelsea from Barcelona. The Spanish newspaper Mundo Deportivo in today edition is convinced that there is also Inter in the running for the ex-coach of Chelsea for the next season. More specifically, the newspaper launches this forecast: Inter will go out from the Champions League and will open a crisis that will end at the end of the season and will be resolved with the rotation as coach, Mancini / Mourinho. In addition, is reported also the indiscretion of a contact already had in the recent past between

Cause result in anfield now media linked us again with mourinho

Frisko · Feb 23, 2008

Azzkikr get it into your head, in Europe you need lots of luck.

The mighty champions of europe got dominated just as much by Arsenal, actually conceding many more chances. But all you hear about them is praise.

Anyway just looking at your avatar makes me wanna puke, you re a joke.

Azzkikr · Feb 23, 2008

Luck has nothing to do with playing like a serie C club away in CL year after year.

And using milans poor performance as an excuse for us playing even worse is simply ridiculous.

scutzon · Feb 23, 2008

I'm for Mancini staying in the club. He has brought us the scudetto where other top managers have failed. He has changed Inter from a prestigious club who cannot win anything, to a respectable force that proved that we are worth labelling one of the top teams in the world.

Sure he has made some mistakes, but which top managers haven't? The game against Liverpool was bad, but it is wrong to ask for Mancini's head just because of this. We have coursed through many different managers to find the right one for us, and for now, I believe that person is Mancini.

Luka · Feb 24, 2008

Azzkikr said:
And Handoyo, sure a red card is about the worst thing you can get in such a game, but its doesnt excuse not being able to string 3 consecutive passes together for the rest of the game or constantly loosing the ball right after conquering it or not getting a single shot on goal. Mancini's approach before the red was wrong and after the red it was horibly because if history has shown anything it is that Inter cant defend an entire game without letting goals in, especially with 10 men. I can safely say ive never seen any other team be so crippled about a red card that they couldnt get the ball over the middle with the team following just a few times...

Azzkikr said:
No one is questioning the selection of players, just the ultra defensive approach he obviously instructed them to have both before and after the card.

Azzkikr said:
Handoyo, no one expects us to win the CL, but we expect to be up there, actually being a contender and up there in the semi's~ instead of being the laughing stock of the competetion year after year.

Its the fact that we play absolutely horible year after year in the knockoutstages and constantly choke to teams who on paper arent as good as us.

Its obvious that there is something wrong with either mancini's approach to these games or with the team generaly (or most likely both).

We atleast want good performances, so we can go out with some honor atleast, not choking so much that you dont have a single shot on goal, 10 man or not, its simply pathetic and embarrasing to say the least.

4 years of being a complete joke/failure in europe is inexcusable in my book.

Azzkikr said:
Sure but he did score, we did get trashed for the entire game, we didnt get a single shot on goal, we didnt do anything, we choked like always away in europe. 10 man doesnt excuse such a horible performance.

There is no room for if's and but's in europe, mancini needs to wake up and realise that there isnt room for failure and be sharper tacticaly and realise that you cant approach a CL away game the same way a serie a game.

But considering he hasnt improved CL wise in his 4 years at all, it doesnt look plausible.

Azzkikr said:
Luck has nothing to do with playing like a serie C club away in CL year after year.

Ok Azz, you lost me.

Now you sound completely like me, so either you changed your mind, or we were(are) arguing about the same thing.(??) I thought that our midfield is the problem, and the game was the effect of that incapable midfield, not the way Mancini set up our team?

rockball · Feb 24, 2008

When Mancini had signed for us, some of us thought that we would play some nice attacking football whether we win or not. However that seems to have been totally lost. Wonder if we can ever get back to an entertaining side

I know winning is more important but then victories like the ones we have had in 2008 won't last long.

M.Adnan · Feb 24, 2008

Rockball:

That nice attacking football got us 7 consecutive draws. Boring tactical football got us 17 consecutive wins.

rockball · Feb 24, 2008

I know it got us victories and I am not saying we need to play like Arsenal or Roma.
But the tactical football was when we were able to impose ourselves on the opponents. We had the majority of possession and had good attacking play on the flanks, and some nice passes and interplay between our midfield and strikers.
We didn't have to rely on defensive mistakes and penalties for our goals.

Alex de Large · Feb 24, 2008

True Adnan, but why can't be 50%50% like i said in the samp-inter topic game.

3 or 4 years ago i was demanding 2 Dm's instead of 1
NOW i'am demanding 2 Dm's instead of 3, or... sometimes 4!!

Luka · Feb 24, 2008

M.Adnan said:
Rockball:

That nice attacking football got us 7 consecutive draws. Boring tactical football got us 17 consecutive wins.

How about playing boring in the league, and playing to win in the CL? That could work.

We tried boring game in CL for 4 years now, and probably we will kiss for the fourth time the CL good bye.

Suneet · Feb 24, 2008

We cant change formations and strategies like gears in a car.

I havent watched the game at Anfield, but I still believe in Mancio. Yes he has made mistakes, but calling for him to be sacked is crazy. A few years back we werent even 50% of the team we are.

In 4 years we are expecting the world from Mancio, it takes time and tons of luck to be a superpower in the world.

I think we can drive the game into extra time and penalties. I still believe we can win. This is Inter, we suffer in the beggining, but in recent times, we end up winning.

Azzkikr · Feb 24, 2008

Lukair said:
Ok Azz, you lost me.

Now you sound completely like me, so either you changed your mind, or we were(are) arguing about the same thing.(??) I thought that our midfield is the problem, and the game was the effect of that incapable midfield, not the way Mancini set up our team?

No that has always been my opinion about mancini

, the issue about a incompetent midfield is just the analasis why the squad isnt competetive enough.

But everything obviously always falls back on mancini, as he is the one putting the team, requesting player ect.

snake · Feb 24, 2008

Unlike every Herrera we have in here, im not going to say I know the problem with our recent form. If you think you know it then piss off and go coach the england national team, dont waste your intelligence on a forum, i.e. asslicker.

What i would love to know, is if our problems are from mancini changing our tactics to something that isnt working or is it the players tierd/form and not playing to mancini's tactics or just not up to the level they usually play.

Whatever the problem is, if we dont fix it soon.. Then we will most likely lose on Wednesday & against liverpool (again)

Choppin Onions · Feb 25, 2008

Mancio's "expertise" in Serie A has a lot to do with Calciopoli. We stole Ibra, who's arguably our best player and Gobbi lost half their team and were rightfully sent to Serie B. Milan just got old in a hurry and Roma, while a very entertaining team, aren't very consistent with their results.

Last year, we were easily the strongest team in Italy and it was almost predestined that we win number 15, which we did. This year, we're still the strongest team in Italy but opposing managers are starting to figure Mancini out and it's showed since the Winter Break. The whole "pack the midfield with physically strong players" isn't working anymore and was ridiculously exposed against Liverpool and didn't look all that pretty against Valencia or Villarreal either. So for the actual poll question, I'm gonna have to say "No".

Roberto Mancini

Where will Mancini lead us this season?

To a top three finish?

To the Coppa Italia trophy?

To the EL trophy?

To a EL Spot?

Outside the European places?

To wishing Mazzarri wasn't fired?

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