André Onana

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Only applies with Julio Cesar.
Both Toldo and Handanovic were elite level when they arrived. Onana wasn't even convincing enough to dethrone an out of shape Handanovic from the get go.

But he's grown on the team and the defense got kind of used to his style. Would be a shame to see him gone after 1 season, but if we get Chelsea to throw 80m, sure. Thanks and goodbye.

If our idea is to get Chalobah, Lukaku and Koulibaly, then for all that's holy in this world, just keep Onana...

I agree with everything here.. people forget what toldo and handanovic were, especially for the latter just because he joined during banter era

I am all for cashing in for Onana.. but not for bloating our payroll..

And yeah, I think whole FIF has blocked the gaffes that Onana is known for so yeah lets calm down.. the impact his sale would have on our books can't be underestimated..
 

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Who cares who is or was better? Only the now matters when talking about active players. I'm more open to sell Brozović and/or Barella than Onana.
 
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Who cares who is or was better? Only the now matters when talking about active players. I'm more open to sell Brozović and/or Barella than Onana.
I agree with this. It's kinda surprising, I wouldnt have said that esp about Barella at the start of the season, but Onana makes such a difference to our shape as a team.
 

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Also Barella and Brozović, while being tireless workers and important to how we play, they aren't so perfect and irreplaceable that a good offer wouldn't be worth considering.

It's going to be a crazy summer. Let's hope we sell good and buy even better.
 

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I agree with everything here.. people forget what toldo and handanovic were, especially for the latter just because he joined during banter era

I am all for cashing in for Onana.. but not for bloating our payroll..

And yeah, I think whole FIF has blocked the gaffes that Onana is known for so yeah lets calm down.. the impact his sale would have on our books can't be underestimated..
Onana has made several mistakes at Inter as well but we didn't concede from them.

Bad exits are still on his repertoire.

Misplaced short balls are common with him as well but he executes difficult long balls with ease so it's not something people will pay attention to.

He conceded several "statue" goals but no one bothered to comment on them with hate like they do when his counterpart played.
If Handanovic conceded the goal by Rodri without moving everyone would be crying that he's finished. But since it's Onana and people don't hate on him for zero reasons, everyone understands that he had a completely obstructed view there.

Onana has good positioning and anticipation of shots so some of his good stops look effortless, but he lacks awareness of high balls and as a result is weak in set pieces. He's lucky that we're on of the best teams in them on both ends, otherwise we'd concede several easy goals from that.


When Toldo came to Inter he was one of the best 3 goalkeepers in the world in the era of Kahn, Buffon, Cañizares, Pagliuca, van der Sar, Peruzzi, the emerging Cassillas, Barthez, Lehmann, Seaman and Chilavert etc.

Now that Neuer and Buffon are out of the equation, the best goalkeeper is supposed to be Courtois who was ridiculed for years, Oblak who's not really consistent and perhaps Donnarumma who makes a lot of errors. Average keepers like Emiliano Martinez and Edouard Mendy get crazy hype for no reason.
There just cannot be any comparison between Toldo in his first 2 seasons with Onana, and possibly not with Handanovic either. He can only be compared with Pagliuca and Zenga.


Regarding Onana, everyone understands that his main asset is how he plays with the ball. As a goalkeeper he has severe weaknesses that can be easily upgraded when replaced. But as they've not been costly you cannot judge him on that light. And since no one can replace his ball playing skills, he's going to be hard to replace as a whole.
 

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Exactly. We need to change the way we play if we switch from Onana to let's say Vicario.

It's okay, but everyone involved in the decision making needs to understand this. Of course getting a lot of profit while doing the switcheroo is the main thing anyway.
 

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I am not that worried about our GK being able to play with the ball, cause its something he can learn. Handa was bad with his feet and then with Conte he became perhaps the best passing GK in the league and he was like 35 at that time... So, if we wanna have a GK that knows how to play with his feet, he will learn that. Probably will never be as good as Onana, but I don't think that should be the deciding factor in a Scudetto race.
Anyway, Onana should be sold only if the offer is big and not some shitty 40M.
 

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I am not that worried about our GK being able to play with the ball, cause its something he can learn. Handa was bad with his feet and then with Conte he became perhaps the best passing GK in the league and he was like 35 at that time... So, if we wanna have a GK that knows how to play with his feet, he will learn that. Probably will never be as good as Onana, but I don't think that should be the deciding factor in a Scudetto race.
Anyway, Onana should be sold only if the offer is big and not some shitty 40M.
I dont really agree, tbh. Its not just ball skills, but its positioning, timing, etc. If it was so easy to learn, you'd see far more ball playing GKs out there, and players like Alisson and Ederson - and lets be honest, Onana - wouldnt fetch the prices they fetch
 

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I am not that worried about our GK being able to play with the ball, cause its something he can learn. Handa was bad with his feet and then with Conte he became perhaps the best passing GK in the league and he was like 35 at that time... So, if we wanna have a GK that knows how to play with his feet, he will learn that. Probably will never be as good as Onana, but I don't think that should be the deciding factor in a Scudetto race.
Anyway, Onana should be sold only if the offer is big and not some shitty 40M.
Handa improved a lot but only short passes, no where closed to Onana in long range. You are underestimating that unique quality that you can't teach. Without Onana Pep could easily press higher up and squeeze us to juice like versus Real, as he admitted during the interview.

The opponent feared of counter-attack relieves the pressure off our defenders.
 

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Onana will be irreplaceable if Inter have CL trophy ambitions. Otherwise, he can be replaced with worse ball playing keeper.
We are about to part ways with many players - 5G, DD, Skriniar, Diarrhea, Dzeko, Lukaku, eventually Gosens and Dumbfries. The money will be needed to replace them. Onana is one of the players ,who might be sacrificed in order to strengthen the squad overall. The others are Bastoni, Barella and Lautaro. I prefer them to stay imo.
 

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Onana will be irreplaceable if Inter have CL trophy ambitions. Otherwise, he can be replaced with worse ball playing keeper.
We are about to part ways with many players - 5G, DD, Skriniar, Diarrhea, Dzeko, Lukaku, eventually Gosens and Dumbfries. The money will be needed to replace them. Onana is one of the players ,who might be sacrificed in order to strengthen the squad overall. The others are Bastoni, Barella and Lautaro. I prefer them to stay imo.
Yeah, in the end it comes to that. Who club wants to keep vs others. If the price is big enough, Onana can go and we just adjust from there.
 

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Also Barella and Brozović, while being tireless workers and important to how we play, they aren't so perfect and irreplaceable that a good offer wouldn't be worth considering.

It's going to be a crazy summer. Let's hope we sell good and buy even better.

who would you replace Barella and Brozovic with? Thank God you guys are not general managers because my days..

There's a reason City couldn't play their game, and it wasn't because of fucking Onana.
 

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Onana has made several mistakes at Inter as well but we didn't concede from them.

Bad exits are still on his repertoire.

Misplaced short balls are common with him as well but he executes difficult long balls with ease so it's not something people will pay attention to.

He conceded several "statue" goals but no one bothered to comment on them with hate like they do when his counterpart played.
If Handanovic conceded the goal by Rodri without moving everyone would be crying that he's finished. But since it's Onana and people don't hate on him for zero reasons, everyone understands that he had a completely obstructed view there.

Onana has good positioning and anticipation of shots so some of his good stops look effortless, but he lacks awareness of high balls and as a result is weak in set pieces. He's lucky that we're on of the best teams in them on both ends, otherwise we'd concede several easy goals from that.


When Toldo came to Inter he was one of the best 3 goalkeepers in the world in the era of Kahn, Buffon, Cañizares, Pagliuca, van der Sar, Peruzzi, the emerging Cassillas, Barthez, Lehmann, Seaman and Chilavert etc.

Now that Neuer and Buffon are out of the equation, the best goalkeeper is supposed to be Courtois who was ridiculed for years, Oblak who's not really consistent and perhaps Donnarumma who makes a lot of errors. Average keepers like Emiliano Martinez and Edouard Mendy get crazy hype for no reason.
There just cannot be any comparison between Toldo in his first 2 seasons with Onana, and possibly not with Handanovic either. He can only be compared with Pagliuca and Zenga.


Regarding Onana, everyone understands that his main asset is how he plays with the ball. As a goalkeeper he has severe weaknesses that can be easily upgraded when replaced. But as they've not been costly you cannot judge him on that light. And since no one can replace his ball playing skills, he's going to be hard to replace as a whole.


again spot on. Considering though our track-record with keepers, I am confident we can do even better than Onana.
 

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who would you replace Barella and Brozovic with? Thank God you guys are not general managers because my days..

There's a reason City couldn't play their game, and it wasn't because of fucking Onana.
I already said considering we have Hakan and Asllani for the DLP role, Brozović if sold for enough money could maybe bring us SMS? Kamada will be also free in 17 days and he could play in Mhki's role.

I'm tired of repeating myself, but - I'd get rid of Džeko, Correa, Gosens, Dumfries, Brozović and not pay for another Lukaku loan (but I'm okay with Brozo staying if it's possible)... so that we can get Kamada, SMS, Pavard, Augusto, Firmino and maybe also give Mulattieri as 4th choice spot. I'm just not sure who I would also go for in attack. On one hand SMS can play as a makeshift SS if needed.

While if Barella is sold, I'd bring Frattesi. Not as good, but can get there if we give him the time.
 

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We have to keep him at all costs. He brings new dimension to our gameplay
 

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I already said considering we have Hakan and Asllani for the DLP role, Brozović if sold for enough money could maybe bring us SMS? Kamada will be also free in 17 days and he could play in Mhki's role.

I'm tired of repeating myself, but - I'd get rid of Džeko, Correa, Gosens, Dumfries, Brozović and not pay for another Lukaku loan (but I'm okay with Brozo staying if it's possible)... so that we can get Kamada, SMS, Pavard, Augusto, Firmino and maybe also give Mulattieri as 4th choice spot. I'm just not sure who I would also go for in attack. On one hand SMS can play as a makeshift SS if needed.

While if Barella is sold, I'd bring Frattesi. Not as good, but can get there if we give him the time.

my guy you want to replace brozo with Hakan/Asllani? SMS yeah, but still id rather keep brozo. People underrate him (including me when he pisses me off).

And if you sub Barella with Frattessi idk what to tell you.. frattesi is 23, barella 26 btw..
 

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Onana has made several mistakes at Inter as well but we didn't concede from them.

Bad exits are still on his repertoire.

Misplaced short balls are common with him as well but he executes difficult long balls with ease so it's not something people will pay attention to.

He conceded several "statue" goals but no one bothered to comment on them with hate like they do when his counterpart played.
If Handanovic conceded the goal by Rodri without moving everyone would be crying that he's finished. But since it's Onana and people don't hate on him for zero reasons, everyone understands that he had a completely obstructed view there.

Onana has good positioning and anticipation of shots so some of his good stops look effortless, but he lacks awareness of high balls and as a result is weak in set pieces. He's lucky that we're on of the best teams in them on both ends, otherwise we'd concede several easy goals from that.


When Toldo came to Inter he was one of the best 3 goalkeepers in the world in the era of Kahn, Buffon, Cañizares, Pagliuca, van der Sar, Peruzzi, the emerging Cassillas, Barthez, Lehmann, Seaman and Chilavert etc.

Now that Neuer and Buffon are out of the equation, the best goalkeeper is supposed to be Courtois who was ridiculed for years, Oblak who's not really consistent and perhaps Donnarumma who makes a lot of errors. Average keepers like Emiliano Martinez and Edouard Mendy get crazy hype for no reason.
There just cannot be any comparison between Toldo in his first 2 seasons with Onana, and possibly not with Handanovic either. He can only be compared with Pagliuca and Zenga.


Regarding Onana, everyone understands that his main asset is how he plays with the ball. As a goalkeeper he has severe weaknesses that can be easily upgraded when replaced. But as they've not been costly you cannot judge him on that light. And since no one can replace his ball playing skills, he's going to be hard to replace as a whole.
Severe weaknesses yet you wrote out this entire wall of text and couldn’t point to one specific example of them.. every goalkeeper in the world makes mistakes, few goalkeepers have strengths that by in large nullify them.

He had the most shots saved, most passes and long passes in the Champions League.

Who is easily replacing that?
 
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Severe weaknesses yet you wrote out this entire wall of text and couldn’t point to one specific example of them.. every goalkeeper in the world makes mistakes, few goalkeepers have strengths that by in large nullify them.

He had the most shots saved, most passes and long passes in the Champions League.

Who is easily replacing that?
You're quoting a post that starts by describing some of his major flaws and ends with that he's going to be hard to replace and this is what you're typing?
 
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