Zlatan Ibrahimovic

Is Zlatan Ibrahimovic a world class player ?


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Raymondo

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Stefan said:
WTF. Some of his blood might be Bosnian but Zlatan Ibrahimovic was born and bred in Sweden. He is as much swedish as any other swede.

WTF. None of him is Swedish and a dog born and bred in a barn doesn't make him a horse.

He's as much a Swede as I'm an Eskimo and it's bad enough he's currently being rebagded as a "great" striker much less a Swede.
 
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Raymondo said:
WTF. None of him is Swedish and a dog born and bred in a barn doesn't make him a horse.

He's as much a Swede as I'm an Eskimo and it's bad enough he's currently being rebagded as a "great" striker much less a Swede.

How do you compare 2 different species to nationalities?? a Dog can't become a horse since it's gentically impossible. Nationalities has to do wtih culture,etc nothing to do with genes.

Zlatan is swedish.

But I quess your one of those anti immigrant kind of people so you hold a grudge against his parents for coming to Sweden so now you dislike Zlatan.;)
 

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Please. Don't repeat this discussion again. If you desire, find another forum to do so.
 

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Forza ragazzi said:
Please. Don't repeat this discussion again. If you desire, find another forum to do so.

Your right. Sorry for getting involved in that arguement with Raymondo .
 

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Mike said:
lol Ashkan that's a load of shit.

Supercup vs Roma he was pretty average (5/10)

Had a good game vs. Fiorentina (7/10)

Another decent game vs. Sampdoria (6.5/10)

Not very good vs. Sporting (5.5/10)

Absolute garbage vs. Bayern (3/10)

Another bad game vs. Cagliari (5/10)


Yup, that's consistency :lol:

Happy birthday Zlatan.
That is your opinion which I could equally brand being load of shit. ;)
Crespo aside Ibra has been more consistent than most of our attack minded players. Based on every one else in the team who have been utter crap in most games I would only rate his Bayern game below average – in the remaining games I personally was generally happy with his contribution. And I’m saying this as some one who wasn’t keen on his move at the first place.
 

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Mike said:
IMO, Zlatan is a very skilled player that will show off vs. teams like Siena, Ascoli etc. But he was never a big game player ever since his move to Juventus, he's always been disgraceful in the CL and as you can see this season he hasn't changed at all.

Do you remember the 'scudetto showdown' we had against JuBe last year? I remember him scoring a goal and winning the FK leading to the second goal, if my memory serves me right.

In general, like someone mentioned already, if you measure Zlatan's performance by goals, then this is a fallacy. He ain't no goal-scorer, rate him by how many balls he wins, assists and the time he holds the ball allowing others to advance.

Too bad these things can't be quanitified in the right manner.
 

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Hamed said:
Do you remember the 'scudetto showdown' we had against JuBe last year? I remember him scoring a goal and winning the FK leading to the second goal, if my memory serves me right.

In general, like someone mentioned already, if you measure Zlatan's performance by goals, then this is a fallacy. He ain't no goal-scorer, rate him by how many balls he wins, assists and the time he holds the ball allowing others to advance.

Too bad these things can't be quanitified in the right manner.

Spot on.

Ibra is a supporting forward not a goal poacher. He wins so many free kicks around the area because he's so skillful and the team should take advantage of those free kicks.

As for last season scudetto showdown, it was Nedved who DIVED to win the free kick that lead to Del Piero's goal.
 

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Nerazzurri813 said:
Ibra is a supporting forward not a goal poacher. He wins so many free kicks around the area because he's so skillful and the team should take advantage of those free kicks.

I agree with the definition of his position and his talent, it's just that every time I watch Inter matches he, well to say the least, just fails to impress me..Awful performance and red card in the CL match and again poor display against Cagliari is what I saw from him lately..

I read comments here, most of them were praises, so maybe it's just by accident that I usually miss his 'good games', who knows..:rolleyes:
 

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Oh thanks for the correction. But didn't he score a goal? I remember him clearly scoring a goal against us last year in a showdown game.
 

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Yeah he did score a goal (due to a huge defensive error) but what else has he done that's worth mentioning? I also hope you take into account that he was playing with a Juve team that had alot of extra help so alot of his "assists" were offside, alot of the FK's he won weren't FK's.

You still didn't answer me on my statement about him being a huge disappointment in the CL for the past 3 years? Has he ever done anything in the CL except as far as I remember one decent game vs. Bayern (2 years ago) and that's it?

Don't make me seem like someone that's gonna watch out for every mistake he does and critcize him, I give credit where it's due but you guys are giving him way too much.
 

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Stop shitting. YOu must support Inter player in bad or worse i do not care who comes to Inter i eill support him because i want that inter suceed and i do not bother with his past i just want to that he performs and that team does well.


If Ronaldo can bring us glory Scudetto and Cl and good games then bring him.

And please stop shitting class players. I agree if you are crticise Killy. Ze Maria, Mariano Gonzalez and so on. Who never made any diffrence in our play and never show the potencial. But Ibra can do good in Inter. SAme goes for Maicon. I mean whole squad is good. The only excess bagage is Mariano.


He got a lot of chances and he did not do shit.


Ok enough bullshit. Support Inter and alll players, because if we start to predjuce players that they aint no good and so on they will never be because we will always see only mistakes.



Forzza Inter and all players in bad or worse.
 

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Stefan said:
But I quess your one of those anti immigrant kind of people so you hold a grudge against his parents for coming to Sweden so now you dislike Zlatan.;)

So even though he's a Bosnian we have to call him a Swede and even though he's a crap player we have to think he's a great player. :rolleyes:

Zlatan himself is on the record saying "I have Swedish passport, Bosnian blood. I am aware of the fact that the Swedes would not let me go but if I was in a position to choose, I would most certainly play for Bosnia" in an interview with Bosnian newspaper Dnevni avaz.

The Bosnian national football team evaluated him and only gave him a chance to enter the B selection.

Here are a couple of quotes on this wonderful player we Inter fans have been forced fed to accept:

"... Zlatan in this form is not an asset form for the national team at all. I see no big difference in him being present or not." -- Thomas Ravelli, former Swedish goalkeeper, September 19, 2006

"He is possibly the most over-rated player in the world." -- Martin O'Neill on BBC, June 23, 2006
 

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Raymondo said:
So even though he's a Bosnian we have to call him a Swede and even though he's a crap player we have to think he's a great player. :rolleyes:

Zlatan himself is on the record saying "I have Swedish passport, Bosnian blood. I am aware of the fact that the Swedes would not let me go but if I was in a position to choose, I would most certainly play for Bosnia" in an interview with Bosnian newspaper Dnevni avaz.

The Bosnian national football team evaluated him and only gave him a chance to enter the B selection.

Here are a couple of quotes on this wonderful player we Inter fans have been forced fed to accept:

"... Zlatan in this form is not an asset form for the national team at all. I see no big difference in him being present or not." -- Thomas Ravelli, former Swedish goalkeeper, September 19, 2006

"He is possibly the most over-rated player in the world." -- Martin O'Neill on BBC, June 23, 2006
OK. I promise this is the last time I will respond. He is not a bosnian because he was born in Sweden. Some of his parents are bosnian but he isn't.

This is the first time I heard that quate. And besides he could have gotten a bosnian passport if he really wanted to play for them instead of Sweden. Actions speaks louder than words.

And on those quates no offence to O'Neil but Capello who is a far superior manager to him rates Zlatan very highly so I think I will take his opinion instead of a man who's only success is that great league known as the spl.
 

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he is a very good player....
if swedish players said these things to his face, that's because what said... he was not loyal to swedish NT.. he dares to say he would choose bosnian NT if he could...

he is certainly a short tempered guy...,
but he is an inter player now, and he chooses inter over any other team is just like he would chose bosnian NT over swedish
 

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I seriously doubt those words. Zlatan probably thinks he's too good to play for Bosnia. If he desired to play for Bosnia, then Sweden surely wouldn't have stopped him in doing so. This simply requires a look into Zlatan's character to realize.
 

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Raymondo said:
Zlatan himself is on the record saying "I have Swedish passport, Bosnian blood. I am aware of the fact that the Swedes would not let me go but if I was in a position to choose, I would most certainly play for Bosnia" in an interview with Bosnian newspaper Dnevni avaz.:proud:
The Bosnian national football team evaluated him and only gave him a chance to enter the B selection.
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OK than this could be a start, if you want so hard play for Bosnia rallax from Sweden next three years and you can play for us than.:rules:

This was the main problem, he didn't want to play for B team, and Swedesh coach called him in their NT, that's the place where story ending, but I really think Zlatan is sory for that choice. He can't fit in that Swedesh team, he will allways be "emigra boy" for them. :D
This behavor of his proving that he doesn't feel anything for that NT or Sweden,especially in hard moments for the team when they have so much players unablled to play this round.:nono: Lagerback
 

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Mike said:
Yeah he did score a goal (due to a huge defensive error) but what else has he done that's worth mentioning? I also hope you take into account that he was playing with a Juve team that had alot of extra help so alot of his "assists" were offside, alot of the FK's he won weren't FK's.

You still didn't answer me on my statement about him being a huge disappointment in the CL for the past 3 years? Has he ever done anything in the CL except as far as I remember one decent game vs. Bayern (2 years ago) and that's it?

Don't make me seem like someone that's gonna watch out for every mistake he does and critcize him, I give credit where it's due but you guys are giving him way too much.
He had many good games, against Bayern, Rapid Vienna, Werder.

He has an obligation of creating space, scoring comes second because of the way we play and the way Mancio's tactics are dictating, look at the ball and you wil always find it going to Zlatan in the most awkward position for him, he thus has to get past the defender and creat a scoring opportunity, that's his role, but now with Adri in the pic, Adri is always going down to the midfield thus now you have 2 attackers going down for the ball, which is not the correct manner.
 

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Hasan said:
I really think Zlatan is sory for that choice. He can't fit in that Swedesh team, he will allways be "emigra boy" for them. :D
This behavor of his proving that he doesn't feel anything for that NT or Sweden

Nah, I don't think so. Larsson is the same case as Zlatan; his dad is a West African (cape verde) and his mom in Norwegian (I read that once) but he was born in Sweden. Not to mention Martin Dahlin in the past. None of these guys had a problem.

This nonsense is created by some that have something against Zlatan for his character. He is a free man and can quit and play for Bosnia if he wanted to. But he made his choice and I hope people respect it!
 

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I respect that but I think Zlatan don't. African and Balcan mentallity are so different, so we can't compere with Larsson, his caracter is so awfull coz that's kind of mentallity he brings in his blod.
Do you know that every fifthy years we have a war around here, than look Zlatan and tell me a diference.
 

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I agree with Hasan here, we can't compare people from Africa and the Balkan. All ppl form Balkan are always readdy for fight, always arrogant, believe me, I know this. And African ppl are not like that...
 
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