Zlatan Ibrahimovic

[.h.]

You realize everyone in here know that la liga is a 2 horse race with the occasional dark horse right? So weather or not they both reach 99 or 89 is irrelevant to how easy that particular title was but you allrdy know this..

yeah, so difficult, that barca won it 3 years on the trot....

 

[wicked wizard]

I never took this discussion that serious rellay, but now implying Teddy sheringham was better is 2 far

It seems browha does not watch football its just a game of numbers to him its all stats,stats,stats.

 

[.h.]

LOL if you think I was implying Teddy Sheringham was better... I was illustrating that as an example of 'In spite of', rather than 'but'.

Ibrahimovic is a man full of 'but', and very little 'in spite of'.

 

[Ru4real]

I thought that season was really exciting and it was the closest race for the title it has been since that season in spain.

Perhaps best if you define when league titles should matter so that i who actually watch the games can tell if they are significant of not after all is said n done. Maybe theres a minimum of 4 teams fighting for the title with x amount of games left to play for or something similar.

 

[.h.]

This is turning into a complete waste of time. You're too stubborn to admit that Ibrahimovic isn't on the same level as Messi and Ronaldo, and I'm not going to change my opinion that he isn't until he puts in some good performances in the sort of games I've discussed.


So I fear this is a permanent stalemate!

 

[Ru4real]

Well i dont think either of us had any illusions that we would come to an agreement on the subject at hand but its not like its a complete waste of time. We have found out that you dont watch ibra regularly or even close to it so its easier for me to understand where you are coming from.

Previously i would have said no not on messis level and usually not on ronaldos level either. Currently i think ibra is the best performing player in the world and ahead of both.

 

[Alan]

This is turning into a complete waste of time. You're too stubborn to admit that Ibrahimovic isn't on the same level as Messi and Ronaldo, and I'm not going to change my opinion that he isn't until he puts in some good performances in the sort of games I've discussed.


So I fear this is a permanent stalemate!

You are calling him the stubborn one? What does FIF think of you?

:trollol:


EDIT:

Some fun stats for statswhores.

Mål=Goals Matcher=Games played

This is in both National and Club.

 

[Adriano]

monster

 

[Karamja]

This is Ibra after the game yesterday having a chat in tv with teammate Zoumana “Papus” Camara who’s out injured.

You gotta love him

 

[kido]

Not a world class monster

Fixed

Sent from my Nexus 4 using Tapatalk

 

[.h.]

I call your stat an raise you one more

Aleksandrs Cekulajevs, who scored 46 goals in the 2011-2012 season, the same number as Ronaldo that season.

no shit ibrahimovic is going to score loads, the french league is fucking dreadful. Back to my point about me not giving a crap about him winning a title there.

 

[victor_inter]

Samuel eto prime vs ibrahimovic prime, who reigns supreme? Who is better, for me i find eto to be better in big games obviously and he is a phenomenal player to have for the champions league. Conversely ibra would be preferred if a teams wants to dominate domestically. International trophies are indeed more valuable than domestic trophies, so from that perspective etoo wins quite comfortably. However ibra is a better player overall, etoo wont thrive in a team that has mediocre players, ibra can make an average team look impressive so overall i cant split the two, i am going with a stalemate here. Its a bit like federer vs nadal debate here,nadal has a better h2h but roger has more slams etc. Etoo is nadal , in this case.

 

[Ru4real]

You talk about a league you never watch labelling it dreadfull, how the fuck would you know? Fyi the french league is pretty defensive oriented n prolly harder to score in than the spanish. Psg scored less goals in the league so far than all other leaders of top leagues except serie A.

Its amazing how strong opinion one can have about something one claims himself he know nothing off.

 

[.h.]

You talk about a league you never watch labelling it dreadfull, how the fuck would you know? Fyi the french league is pretty defensive oriented n prolly harder to score in than the spanish. Psg scored less goals in the league so far than all other leaders of top leagues except serie A.

Its amazing how strong opinion one can have about something one claims himself he know nothing off.

Or perhaps its to reflect on the quality of the players? Are you telling me the French league is of better standard than La Liga? Or the Premiership?


By UEFA coefficients they're no better than Italy. When was the last time a French team did well in Europe? Europa OR CL? Before PSG and Monaco, when was the last time a star player moved TO France in the peak of their career? I can only think of people moving *away* - like Ronaldinho, Hazard, etc.

Yeah I wont claim to be an expert on the French League, but if you're telling me it's one of the best in Europe, then theres simply no point having this argument.


This is turning into a huge waste of time. Just stop wasting both of our times now.

 

[Ru4real]

Im telling you the obvious. If you dont watch a player or a league how can you determine the quality of the same?

Considering ibras conversion rate is even better in the cl than the league as well. You r just talking nonsense grabbing at every straw but there are non left. I could atleast respect your opinon (but not share it) if you atleast watch the games/league/player you speak of.

 

[.h.]

Im telling you the obvious. If you dont watch a player or a league how can you determine the quality of the same?

Considering ibras conversion rate is even better in the cl than the league as well. You r just talking nonsense grabbing at every straw but there are non left. I could atleast respect your opinon (but not share it) if you atleast watch the games/league/player you speak of.

I dont have to watch the Azerbaijian league to tell you it sucks... The french league is clearly on the up, but there's a reason why most of the best players in the French national team have traditionally played in Italy or England (for example).

 

[Ru4real]

You dont watch the effin games what kind of meaningfull discussion do you expect to have?

Its ridiculous!

 

[.h.]

You dont watch the effin games what kind of meaningfull discussion do you expect to have?

Its ridiculous!

Says the guy who keeps responding....... I'm not the one who expects meaningful discussion, it's the idiots who 'call me out' every time ibrahimovic scores a goal who apparently do.

 

[L_Tdk]

Samuel eto prime vs ibrahimovic prime, who reigns supreme? Who is better, for me i find eto to be better in big games obviously and he is a phenomenal player to have for the champions league. Conversely ibra would be preferred if a teams wants to dominate domestically. International trophies are indeed more valuable than domestic trophies, so from that perspective etoo wins quite comfortably. However ibra is a better player overall, etoo wont thrive in a team that has mediocre players, ibra can make an average team look impressive so overall i cant split the two, i am going with a stalemate here. Its a bit like federer vs nadal debate here,nadal has a better h2h but roger has more slams etc. Etoo is nadal , in this case.

There should be a poll, it would be interesting.
Anyway, remember that very often people are carried away by circumstances in their judgments, so now that Ibrahimovic is on fire it's very probable that the majority of people would prefer him; contrariwise, if you had asked this question in 2011, with Eto'o banging in goals, assists and dribblings for fun, then he probably would have been the victor.

Anyway, as far as I'm concerned, Eto'o takes it.

 

[Ru4real]

No browha thats clear, i think at this point you are just in it for the sake of not loosing the arguement.
I hope that most ppl now realize that you dont even watch ibra or the league you comment on and therefor treat your opinions of the same accordingly.

Regarding ibra vs eto I think it depends on what kind of team you have at your disposal to put either of them in. If its a team thats got a strong attacking midfield it would be a tough choice even for me but in a team that lacks quality in midfield ill take ibra without thinking twice.